Charlie - - - THANK YOU!!  Thank you very much!  Thank you very
much for saying what NEEDED to be said.

SMAAACK!  <--- Barb smacks Ivan> ENOUGH ALREADY!  You're like the
"boy who cried wolf."

Barb Mallut
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-----Original Message-----
From: Charles T. Meyer, M.D. <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Tuesday, January 11, 2000 9:58 AM
Subject: Re: Open letter to NPF, and Mr. Larry Hoffheimer


>Ivan and Dennis,
>
>I am choosing to reply to Dennis because I don't want to repeat
Ivan's
>letter one more time.
>
>I am not a member of NPF but IMHO,  your (Ivan) charges against
NPF are
>half-truths and innuendo. Having intervened on your behalf
several years ago
>and having talked with Larry Hoffheimer as well as others
regarding the
>incident there are clearly facts which you omit. If you choose to
fight this
>(and it is not black and white) it should not be on the list
again
>especially as an open letter.  Do not be a divisive force on the
list
>Several years ago I was supportive to you- hearing only your side
of the
>story.  Your battle with NPF has no place on this list regardless
of its
>merits (which IMHO are quite limited).   It is a private affair
between you
>and NPF and making it public only puts doubt in the minds of its
potential
>contributors which no doubt is the purpose of you making it an
open letter
>again for at least the 3rd or 4th time. You have built up a
following of
>supporters regarding your problem with the City of Portland many
of whom are
>new to the list.  Don't harm the credibility of NPF once again
or your own
>credibility.
>
>I am not a signer of your petition regarding your taxes, because
of this
>previous experience with you but I kept my mouth shut because I
felt that
>the list was uniting behind your cause and overall this was a
cause that
>most of the group could get behind and support.  It was helpful
to you and
>not harmful to the list and I don't know the facts.  But now that
you are
>trying to parley your support into part of your vendetta against
NPF and
>Larry Hoffheimer,  I will not stand idly by and watch a replay of
previous
>list threads putting you in the position of the poor persecuted
Parkie that
>everything goes bad for.  Ivan, what role do you play in all of
this? You
>have done so many good things in your life, don't turn into the
bitter
>"victim" that you are fast  becoming.
>
>Charlie
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>From: Dennis Nestler <[log in to unmask]>
>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2000 7:24 AM
>Subject: Re: Open letter to NPF, and Mr. Larry Hoffheimer
>
>
>> IVAN,
>>
>> LET'S NOT START THIS STORY OVER AGAIN.  PLEASE.
>>
>> Dennis
>> 58/52