agreed
i just loved potchkying
it will be my word of the year
judy

>From: plmaddux <[log in to unmask]>
>Reply-To: Parkinson's Information Exchange Network
><[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Non PD, My nomination
>Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 18:59:18 -0400
>
>Hi Everyone, I would like to nominate this msg from Barb as the funniest
>E-Mail of the year. In fact I think it is the funniest one I have ever
>gotten in my 3 years on the ListServ. Thanks for the laughs Barb.
>
>Lanier Maddux         Chattanooga Tn.
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Barb_MSN" <[log in to unmask]>
>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 2:32 PM
>Subject: Re: PD Med's Question
>
>
> > Darwin....
> >
> > OK... ok.... so what's a little arrogance amongst friends? <grin>
> >
> >  I've been SO busy feathering my wee new nest (I absolutely LOVE
> > this oh-so-Parkie-friendly condo complex!) , plus studying
> > "duckology," (which is the study of DUCKS as opposed to
> > QUACKology, which is the study of shyster-doctors, as you all
> > know) <giggle> while paintin,' plantin' 'n potchkyin' (to all
> > youse who ain't of the Jewish persuasion, "potchkying around" is
> > the same as doing lotsa :"whatever."  Kinda like "piddling around
> > doing the "same ol same ol."
> >
> > Sooo, with all this potchkying 'round I forgot for a moment which
> > hat I was wearing as I wrote the message you referred to.
> >
> > By  the way, the Mallard ducks, who reside in the many small ponds
> > and streams which dapple the condo complex are busy MATING now.
> > Sheeesh!  I'm surprised that them gal-ducks can even WALK by
> > evening!) <giggle>
> >
> > Gotta go commune with the duckies as ir's been at LEAST 3 minutes
> > since I've heard any quacking.  For all I know the president of
> > the condo association might have up and sold the ducks to a
> > chinese restaurant to make into Peking Duck!  <YUMMY> <smirk>
> >
> > Oh.... and thanks for the kind words 'bout my sense of humor,
> > Darwin. It's a nice feeling to know one's appreciated.
> >
> > Barb Mallut
> > [log in to unmask]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Hawkins, Darwin <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>
> > Date: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 8:49 AM
> > Subject: Re: PD Med's Question
> >
> >
> > >HA! That's a likely story! The truth finally has come out.
> > Freudian still
> > >reigns!
> > >
> > >(P.S. If you are not the most knowledgeable and/or arrogant, you
> > certainly
> > >are one of the funniest on the list!)
> > >
> > >> ----------
> > >> From:         Barb_MSN[SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
> > >> Sent:         Tuesday, April 11, 2000 2:40 AM
> > >> Subject:      Re: PD Med's Question
> > >>
> > >> OYE!!!!! <--- Barb smacks self on forehead!  I GOOFED!  I had
> > >> meant to say I"m NOT the most PD-knowledgeable amongst the List
> > >> members, but have SOME knowledge 'bout the disease after all
> > these
> > >> years living with it/
> > >>
> > >> That' "NOT" not being there sure made me sound arrogant!
> > WHEW!!!
> > >> T'ain't that when it comes to this steeeenkin disease.
> > >>
> > >> Barb Mallut
> > >> [log in to unmask]
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: Barb_MSN <[log in to unmask]>
> > >> To: [log in to unmask]
> > <[log in to unmask]>
> > >> Date: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 12:29 AM
> > >> Subject: Re: PD Med's Question
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> >Hi Sue....
> > >> >
> > >> >First of all, there's never been a "posting limit" on this
> > List
> > >> >that I know of, and I've been logging on daily for 'bout 6
> > years
> > >> >or so.
> > >> >
> > >> >If there IS a limit to the number of messages one can post at
> > a
> > >> >time then SOME of us are in BIIIIIIIG trouble! <grin>
> > >> >
> > >> >So relax, m'dear, and post away - get it all out and know you
> > can
> > >> >count on the folks here on the List to be supportive as well
> > as
> > >> >knowledgeable about our mutual adversary, Parkinson's Disease.
> > >> >
> > >> >Regarding your questions, please keep in mind that I'm not an
> > MD,
> > >> >but rather have had PD for 25 of my 57 years.   I"m the the
> > most
> > >> >"up" on the disease whom you'll hear from over the next few
> > days,
> > >> >but I have a more than a little general information.
> > >> >
> > >> >Your question #1:
> > >> >
> > >> >Your mom should be seen and diagnosed by at least once by a
> > >> >neurologist who is a "movement disorder specialist.  This time
> > >> >might be the best time for for your mother to see this type of
> > >> >specialist since you both have unanswered questions with her
> > >> >current neuro.
> > >> >
> > >> >There's one easy way to find out if someone has PD
> > >> >and that's to give them Sinemet (the "gold standard"
> > >> >of  PD drugs).  If it dosn't work then mom almost
> > >> >certainly doesn't have PD.
> > >> >
> > >> >As far as PD not being diagnosable at "this stage,"
> > >> >there ARE noticable symptoms and a half-way decent
> > >> >neuro SHOULD be able to diagose your mother
> > >> >based upon those symptoms.
> > >> >
> > >> >Question #2:
> > >> >
> > >> >Parkinson's CAN be inherited, tho it's not terribly
> > >> >common to find familiel PD families on every street
> > >> >corner.  There are lots of folks here in the List and at
> > >> >many of our local PD support groups who know someone
> > >> >ARE someone who's the third or forth direct decendant of
> > >> >someone or other in their family to have PD, or one
> > >> >of the other PD-like diseaes, referred to as
> > >> >"Parkinson's Plus."
> > >> >
> > >> >Question #3:
> > >> >
> > >> >Mom's neurologist is just plain wrong!   See
> > >> >above response....
> > >> >
> > >> >Hang in there, Sue.  And the next time you go to or
> > >> >speak with mom's neuro or  another MD who might
> > >> >see her, go armed with a list of all your, AND a
> > >> >portable tape recorder (if possible) so you can tape
> > >> >the MD's response.   It's SOOOO easy to forget
> > >> >to write down the doctor's response to those questions.
> > >> >his way you won't have to worry about rushing to write
> > >> >it all down.
> > >> >
> > >> >Hang in there, Sue, and hugs to mom 'n you...
> > >> >
> > >> >Barb Mallut
> > >> >[log in to unmask]
> > >> >
> > >> >-----Original Message-----
> > >> >From: Sue George <[log in to unmask]>
> > >> >To: [log in to unmask]
> > <[log in to unmask]>
> > >> >Date: Monday, April 10, 2000 8:44 PM
> > >> >Subject: Re: PD Med's Question
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >>Morning all.  I feel nervous of ... posting a query ... (very
> > >> >ignorant about
> > >> >>it all) ... but ... would like to ask:
> > >> >>
> > >> >>My mother has uncontrollable tremors that are getting worse.
> > My
> > >> >grandfather
> > >> >>had similar tremors but was never diagnosed as having PD, in
> > >> >fact, for all
> > >> >>we know, it was never diagnosed as anything.  He died at 87
> > ...
> > >> >with bad
> > >> >>enough tremors that he couldn't write and had difficulty
> > walking
> > >> >... but
> > >> >>other than that ... quite ... healthy (if that's the word?).
> > >> >Anyway ... mum
> > >> >>has now got these tremors and they are getting worse and
> > she's
> > >> >been to the
> > >> >>doctor and then the neurologist ... who said ... "it isn't
> > >> >hereditary" and
> > >> >>"there isn't any real way to diagnose it at this stage" but
> > "you
> > >> >could have
> > >> >>it and a i can't say that you haven't got it and we'll just
> > have
> > >> >to wait and
> > >> >>see what happens".  I'm paraphrasing here and from mum's
> > >> relating
> > >> >of the
> > >> >>conversation but .. that's about it.
> > >> >>
> > >> >>Mum feels anxious and upset about it and believes, i think,
> > that
> > >> >she
> > >> >>definitely had PD ... that it is just a matter of time before
> > it
> > >> >is
> > >> >>diagnosed.  This is just her "feeling" but it is still a very
> > >> >difficult time
> > >> >>for her.
> > >> >>
> > >> >>Anyway ... i got onto the net ... found your list ... and i
> > was
> > >> >wondering if
> > >> >>someone could help me understand a few things:
> > >> >>
> > >> >>(i) i found some sites on the net where they were advertising
> > or
> > >> >talking
> > >> >>about diagnosis services (imaging, dna) .... are these useful
> > >> ...
> > >> >why not
> > >> >>recommended by the doctor?
> > >> >>
> > >> >>(ii) i also read on the net that PD was not normally thought
> > to
> > >> >be
> > >> >>hereditary ... which made me wonder ... "then how can they
> > use
> > >> >dna
> > >> >>diagnosis?  what is that about?"
> > >> >>
> > >> >>(iii) also, if PD isn't hereditary ... then perhaps the
> > >> >neuromuscular
> > >> >>disorder that mum and grandpa have/had is not PD but
> > something
> > >> >else?  what
> > >> >>are the other neuromuscular disorders which cause this sought
> > of
> > >> >symptom?
> > >> >>
> > >> >>This seems like too many questions.  Sorry.  I feel like i
> > >> >suddenly have a
> > >> >>thousand questions?
> > >> >>
> > >> >>I hope it is OK to post so many at one time.
> > >> >>
> > >> >>thanks
> > >> >>sue
> > >> >>-----Original Message-----
> > >> >>From: Nancy Burnham <[log in to unmask]>
> > >> >>To: [log in to unmask]
> > >> <[log in to unmask]>
> > >> >>Date: Tuesday, 11 April 2000 10:33
> > >> >>Subject: Re: PD Med's Question
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >>>In the very beginning Don's doctor prescribed Artane.  We
> > read
> > >> >the side
> > >> >>>effects and decided to keep the tremors.
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>Nancy B  cg for Don 66/17
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>----- Original Message -----
> > >> >>>From: Brian Collins <[log in to unmask]>
> > >> >>>To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > >> >>>Sent: Monday, April 10, 2000 5:32 PM
> > >> >>>Subject: Re: PD Med's Question
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>> On Sun 09 Apr, plmaddux wrote:
> > >> >>>> > Hi Folks,
> > >> >>>> > After having a tremor for 4 1/2 years I decided to try
> > >> >taking a med
> > >> >>>> > prescribed by my doctor. He thought that Artane was the
> > >> most
> > >> >approiate
> > >> >>>drug
> > >> >>>> > for my symptoms, that being a left side tremor. I had
> > been
> > >> >taking
> > >> >>>Benadryl
> > >> >>>> > which was giving me some relief but it was not helping
> > much
> > >> >and I was
> > >> >>>> > beginning to have a headache all the time.
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> Hello Lanier, Re your 1st paragraph :    You show me a
> > doc.
> > >> >who thinks he
> > >> >>>> can select an appropriate treatment based on the patients
> > >> >symptoms, and
> > >> >>>> I'll show you a fool !
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> Artane is an Anticholinergic drug. It blocks the
> > production
> > >> of
> > >> >>>acetylcholine
> > >> >>>> (another neurotransmitter) The reasoning (!!) is that if
> > >> there
> > >> >is less
> > >> >>>> acetylcholine , it may make more room fpr Dopamine. I was
> > >> >prescribed
> > >> >>>Artane
> > >> >>>> immediately upon diagnosis, and I think went up to 10 mg
> > in
> > >> >the first
> > >> >>year
> > >> >>>> (Well it was 21 years ago). Of course at that time, I
> > thought
> > >> >that they
> > >> >>>> knew what they were doing.  I suppose there was a slight
> > >> >reduction in
> > >> >>>tremor
> > >> >>>> but it was never in control . I made a fuss and was
> > switched
> > >> >to Sinemet,
> > >> >>>> which I urge you to do also.
> > >> >>>> Regards,
> > >> >>>> --
> > >> >>>> Brian Collins  <[log in to unmask]>  (60/39/34)
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>
> > >>
> >
>
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