Dear List,

I hope to have an advocacy listserv running very soon. Please keep a look
out for the official announcement.

Terry Bowers
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----- Original Message -----
From: "FrankandTeri" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 3:33 PM
Subject: A crime? maybe, maybe not but why insult people


> While I understand most people posting here are very passionate about
their
> beliefs because they are directly or indirectly affected by the ravages of
> this disease.  The function of this list should to be disseminate
> information, dispel inaccurate information and to lend hope and
> encouragement to all.
>
> Posting of insults to anyone's beliefs serves no real purpose except to
> inflate the ego of the one that is putting down another's belief.  When
> Rayilyn Brown uses words like "Flat Earth Thinkers...stalling humane
> progress" it does not meet her stated objective of "Hoping people will
look
> at this with an open Mind"
>
> Why insult a person you would hope to share enlightenment with.
>
> I would urge everyone to share enlightenment, not fuel another's persons
> equally impassioned belief that may not match yours.  Support an argument
> through respectful logical support of your belief not through
disrespectful
> name calling of those who do not believe the same.
>
> With all due respect rewrite your article prior to publication.  It just
may
> have a better chance of enlightenment.  Your audience is not those who
> believe the same, it is those whom you wish to convince.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rayilyn Brown" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 3:43 PM
> Subject: A CRIME AGAINST HUMANITY
>
>
> > Dear supporters of Feinstein Bill 2439:
> >
> > This will be my second column in The Californian.probably this weekend.
I
> was
> > restricted to 600 words. If anyone wants to see the longer one let me
> know.
> > Also, feel free to use all or in part, or change a few words, add to it
> to
> > spread the word.  I'm in Murritea, California.
> >
> >  A CRIME AGAINST HUMANITY
> > “We must not create life to destroy it”, insisted President Bush in his
> > ill-advised call for a ban on therapeutic cloning. Last summer the House
> also
> > prematurely jettisoned therapeutic along with reproductive cloning in an
> > unprecedented display of ignorance about the difference between the two.
> >
> > For the first time in human history cures for diseases that shorten and
> > devastate the lives of millions of people and their families may be
within
> > the grasp of medical researchers. This giant step for mankind may not be
> > taken if the Senate passes the Brownback bill instead of the Feinstein
> bill,
> > which prohibits only reproductive cloning. The Brownback bill not only
> bans
> > Somatic Cell Nuclear Transfer(SCNT) therapeutic cloning, but even worse,
> > imposes Draconian criminal penalties of $100,000.00 and ten years in
> prison
> > for researchers and patients who go abroad for treatment.
> >
> > Therapeutic cloning involves using an unfertilized egg and a patient’s
own
> > DNA to cure his disease. So, just whose life is being taken when SCNT is
> > used, the “eggshell” or the person’s own delayed twin? There would be no
> > twin as both bills ban reproductive cloning. Wouldn’t this procedure in
> fact
> > “create life” by making it worth living or allowing a pain-free normal
> life
> > span for people of all ages?
> >
> > When “life” with civil rights begins is a question of where to draw the
> > line. However, opponents of SCNT seem to want to push it back to the
> “glint
> > in your father’s eye”, or a romantic candlelight dinner. A baby girl is
> > born with approximately 150,000 eggs. Does anyone really expect 150,000
> live
> > births from one female? Eggs are lost every month. Is anyone going to
> > retrieve them? And what about those poor little guys, those billions of
> > sperm? Sadly, there is not an egg for every sperm.
> >
> > Therapeutic cloning does not use fetuses or babies, but germ and somatic
> > cells. For over 20 years the cloning of cells and genes have been used
to
> > produce medicines, diagnostics and vaccines to treat a whole host of
> > maladies, track the origin of biological weapons, catch criminals, free
> > innocent people, and produce new plants and livestock. Furthermore,
there
> is
> > a long history of voluntarily imposed constraints and ethical moratoria
on
> > biotechnology research by physicians and scientists themselves.
> >
> > So why do opponents of SCNT fear rampaging clones? Unfounded concerns
have
> > been expressed in the past about new medical therapies, now routine,
which
> > are not forced on anyone. For example, Jehovah’s Witnesses do not use
> blood
> > transfusions. People who oppose organ transplants don’t donate theirs to
> give
> > life to others. Those who originally objected to in vitro fertilization
as
> > “playing God” may now applaud the birth of litters without regard for
the
> > extra embryos that are routinely destroyed in the process. Opponents of
> SCNT
> > have a right to their beliefs and a moral commitment to non-existent
> > entities, but not the right to deny life-saving medical therapies to
those
> > who do not share them.
> >
> > The challenges of the 21st century are different from those faced by our
> > ancestors sitting in cold caves eating raw meat thousands of years ago.
> > Since science has so far outdistanced religion and politics in the last
> > century, it is difficult for all of us to make a rational and humane
> decision
> > in this matter. Nevertheless, we are all morally obligated to try to
> > understand the science of SCNT before we reject it. It has taken us a
long
> > time to come this far and it would be a terrible shame and great crime
> > against humanity if the descendants of the flat earth thinkers succeed
in
> > stalling human progress and hope.
> >
> > Rayilyn Brown
> > [log in to unmask]
> > 40697 Corte Albara
> > Murrieta, CA 92562-5513
> > 909-696-0908
> >
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