Thank you very much, Emily.  Shall see what happens.

    Raj
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From: "Emily and Julian Brinac" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 1:36 PM
Subject: Re: Raj/glutathione


> Raj,
> I hope this works for you. Please let us know if glutathione will work
> for you  over a period of time. There is no evidence that this
> supplement would retard PD. There is a safety issue if you take more
> than maximum. I do not know what would be the side effects. I suggest
> that you would be under the care of preventive medicine doctor (in
> private clinics) to monitor the situation. I met a Parkinson patient in
> the Wellness clinic in Toronto, Ontario. You have one life to live and
> be careful not to be "sucked in". Also when people are desperate they
> try anything, and this can lead into a "danger zone". I hope we hear
> from  doctors on this List. Take care.
> Emily
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Brightline" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 10:02 PM
> Subject: Raj/glutathione
>
>
> > Emily:
> >     I am sorry to hear that your friend also did not have a good
> response
> > from iv glutahione.      And you tell me that oral administration does
> not
> > yield good results due to absorption problem. Can one try higher doses
> if it
> > is just a problem of absorption?
> >     If you see my response to Ervin, so far (only about 10 days), I am
> > having relatively satisfactory effect from Glutathione orally taken.
> I
> > shall watch myself carefully for another three to four weeks and let
> you
> > know.  I also do not expect complete cure from glutathione.  I am
> hoping
> > that with the reduction in the severity of the symptoms (if it
> persists for
> > longer duration) , there shall be an added benefit of retardation in
> the
> > progression of PD.
> >     Raj
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> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Emily and Julian Brinac" <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 7:10 PM
> > Subject: Re: Raj/glutathione
> >
> >
> > > Erwin,
> > > I also met a person that was taking glutathione intravenously. This
> did
> > > not do anything for him either. This person was taking it for 2
> years
> > > without any other Parkinson drugs. He was devastated. I wrote about
> this
> > > experience previously. From all the research I have done on the
> subject,
> > > if this is taken orally, the impact would be even less as
> gluthatione
> > > does not absorb very well orally. Some people may experience placebo
> > > from different supplements for a while. I do not want to discourage
> > > anybody from trying.
> > > Emily
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Ervin McCarthy" <[log in to unmask]>
> > > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > > Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 7:10 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Raj/glutathione
> > >
> > >
> > > > Raj:
> > > > Being you mentioned Dr. Perlmutter, I was a patient of his during
> the
> > > winter
> > > > months that I spent in Florida.  He seemed to be very
> knowledgeable
> > > Dr.
> > > > three months ago I started on Glutathione here in Michigan.  I
> took
> > > the
> > > > intravenous injections twice a week for six weeks without a
> positive
> > > effect.
> > > > I guess I'm one of the unfortunate ones.
> > > > It sounds like your taking good care of yourself, by your regimen.
> > > Keep up
> > > > the good work.
> > > >
> > > > Ervin McCarthy
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Brightline" <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 4:33 PM
> > > > Subject: Raj/glutathione
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Hi! Ervin & Rayilyn:
> > > > >     I have never tried Sinemet, eventhough I have a prescrition
> for
> > > it.  I
> > > > > am sure it will be of help, based on the nearly 30 years of
> > > experience
> > > > with
> > > > > levodopa.  However, I am still reluctant to try it due to its
> mile
> > > long
> > > > list
> > > > > of side effects, (however low freqnuency of occurrence they
> might
> > > be) and
> > > > am
> > > > > keeping it handy as a last resort.  I may not be surprised if
> for
> > > some
> > > > > people it does not work.  Even in the NPF info it states that
> L-dopa
> > > has
> > > > > been shown to be harmful to dopamine producing cells in vitro
> and in
> > > vivio
> > > > > in animal studies.  It states that L-dopa may or may not be
> > > beneficial!
> > > > > But, both Dr. AH Rajput and Dr. Jancovics believe, however, it
> is
> > > not
> > > > > harmful to humans.  This is supported by the fact that since the
> > > > > introduction of L-dopa or sinemet, people with PD have been
> living
> > > longer.
> > > > >     In the article by Dr. Perlmuter, it says that both dopmine
> and
> > > > > glutathione are low in PD patients.  For some reason L-dopa
> > > application
> > > > has
> > > > > caught up and the fate of glutatione deficiency has been left
> > > hanging in
> > > > the
> > > > > air.  I have been taking glutathione - reduced for the last week
> or
> > > so.  I
> > > > > definitely feel some improvement in my condition, good enough to
> > > postpone
> > > > > taking sinement.  I do not know how to quantitate my results. I
> am
> > > not
> > > > sure
> > > > > how long this beneficial effect will last.  I would like to know
> > > your
> > > > > experience with Glutathione.  One should not expect miracles,
> since
> > > > whatever
> > > > > is lost is lost for ever.  I only hope this will slow down the
> > > prgression
> > > > of
> > > > > PD, as evidencd by decrease in and not total elimnation of the
> > > symptoms of
> > > > > PD.
> > > > >
> > > > >     First thing in the morning I take a cup of greentea with a
> > > tablespoon
> > > > of
> > > > > honey with  no milk or sugar.   Some times I include about 25-50
> mg
> > > of
> > > > > caffeine pill along with my tea.
> > > > >     I am taking glutathione along with phosphatydilserine, B6,
> B12,
> > > > Folate,
> > > > > Vitamin E and about 1/3 pill of multivitamain (senior edition
> with
> > > less
> > > > > amount of iron) every day in the morning just before breakfast.
> > > > >     My breakfast consists of bran flakes, about  12 fresh
> almonds, a
> > > pinch
> > > > > of peeled pumpkin seeds (for my prostate problems), and a spoon
> full
> > > of
> > > > > powdered flax seed; this also includes one cup of a fruit juice
> > > cocktail
> > > > > (1:1 mix of orange and tomato juices with a small amount of blue
> > > berry
> > > > > juice).
> > > > >     (I am a little bit uncertain about the benefit of blue berry
> or
> > > bb
> > > > juice
> > > > > for PD patients, since aluminum sulfate is used as a fertlizer
> for
> > > blue
> > > > > berry plants.  Aluminum has been implicated in PD and in
> > > Alzheimer's.
> > > > Does
> > > > > anybody know the aluminum content of blue berries? So do I with
> > > regard to
> > > > > commercial yogurts.  In 1960s and 70s,  the preservative in
> > > commercial
> > > > > yogurt called MSG or monosodium glutamate [also earlier used in
> > > Chinese
> > > > > cooking] has been a contentious issue since in animal studies
> this
> > > caused
> > > > > serious nervous system disorders.  Some yogurt products still
> state
> > > 1-2%
> > > > MG
> > > > > on their stickers.  I often wonder is MG is the same as MSG!)
> Sorry
> > > for
> > > > > being paranoid.  It is better to be careful, than feeling sorry
> > > later.
> > > > >
> > > > >     For lunch and supper, I take pretty much anything, except
> that I
> > > make
> > > > > sure to take a good dose of fresh vegetables and fruits.
> > > > >     Of course, I also include at least 20-30 min of exercise
> every
> > > > morning.
> > > > >
> > > > >     There is no guarantee that what might seem to work for me
> may
> > > work for
> > > > > everybody, since as you well know, PD is a personalized disease,
> > > often
> > > > with
> > > > > comomn symptoms that show up at variable rate and similarly, the
> > > resonse
> > > > to
> > > > > any drug is also variable between individals.  YOU SHOULD
> DEFINIELY
> > > > CONSULT
> > > > > WITH YOR DOCTOR ON ANYTHING YOU TAKE OR DO FOR YOUR PD.
> > > > >
> > > > > QUESTION:
> > > > >     If both dopamine and glutathione are low in PD patients, I
> would
> > > ask
> > > > > myself if it would make sense to take glutathione in addition to
> > > sinemet.
> > > > >     BUT, I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER FOR THIS QUESTION.  SO PLEASE
> DO
> > > NOT TRY.
> > > > > SOME TIMES, THERE COULD BE UNFORSEEN HARMFUL EFFECTS IF TWO
> DRUGS
> > > ARE
> > > > > COMBINED.
> > > > >     GOOD EXAMPLE:  A CLINICAL TRIAL WAS STOPPED HALFWAY IN
> ENGLAND
> > > > RECENTLY
> > > > > SINCE IT INCREASED MORTALITY RATE AMONG THE GROUP OF PD PATIENTS
> > > THAT WERE
> > > > > GIVEN L-DOPA (SINEMET?) AND SELGELINE!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >     Raj
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> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Ervin McCarthy" <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 9:33 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: Raj/glutathione
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Rayilyn, I have gotten the same results from Sinemet on three
> > > occasions.
> > > > > I
> > > > > > was curious if anyone else had the same results.  Now I know.
> > > Thank
> > > > you.
> > > > > > Ervin McCarthy
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "Rayilyn Brown" <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > > > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > > > Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 9:39 PM
> > > > > > Subject: Re: Raj/glutathione
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Raj,  Thanks for the info on glutathione...that it is a
> small
> > > > molecule.
> > > > > > I'm
> > > > > > > going to try the oral glutathione first, before intravenous.
> > > Sinemet
> > > > > > never
> > > > > > > helped me much and after a year made dystonia in my feet
> > > unbearable.
> > > > > > I''ve
> > > > > > > tried it again 3 times with same result. Rayilyn
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
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