Also, a huge amount of money has and is being spent containing Saddam
for 12 years.  See Bob Kerrey ref. below.  If we go in, take care of
business and get out we and the world will be better off.  Thanks for
all the info I get from all of you.  Helps me help my friend!

http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110002252

Cj




----- Original Message -----
From: Nancy Christman <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Friday, March 7, 2003 9:56 am
Subject: Re: Paul's comments on Iraq / Combat vs non-combat

> Thank you Paul for finally telling the other side of the story!!!
> I do not
> normally respond to these issues, but I had to praise you for
> having said what
> you said!  It needed to be said, the anti-war people need to know
> the rest of
> the story as Paul Harvey says. As the wife & mother of 2 boys now
> in the
> Military, one on his way over there, I cannot understand the minds
> of the war
> protesters.  My husband who's had PD for over 12 years fought in 2
> wars &
> although I realize that some of this money being spent could go to
> help people
> in our own country - PWP, the poor et al - what will it be worth
> if our freedom
> is lost. This man is evil, there's enough proof of that with
> history, what he's
> done to his own people & continues to do & what he's done to his
> neighboringcountries.  He may not have directly taken part in 9/11
> but I personally am
> convinced that he does back the terrorist organizations throughout
> the world,
> he's just about admitted that.  We are not going to stop terrorism
> by being the
> good guys, someone has to stop these people, I'm sorry it always
> has to be us
> but it seems we're just about the only nation, a few others yes
> are standing
> with us, who want to protect our own from these insane terrorists
> who care
> nothing about freedom, their lives or any others.  No I don't want
> to see my
> son get hurt or worse killed but I know he is very willing to die
> to protect
> his family & his country - OUR COUNTRY - from terrorism & as Pres.
> Bush clearly
> stated, they do have enough information to justify an attack & no
> we as
> civilians DON'T need to know it all.  I was appalled when our son
> was also over
> in Desert Storm, the day the war broke out, when thanks to the
> media reporting
> I knew EXACTLY where he was at all times, if I knew than so DID
> the bad guys.
> We as civilians know way too much, just remember people if we know
> so do all
> the terrorists world wide.
>
> I know I'll hear back from some of you on the other side, but
> remember since
> this is not the place to discuss these things I will not respond
> anymore to
> anything on this subject, not on the main list, but Paul's letter
> deserved a
> list answer not just a private thank you from a PD care-giver.
> Peace to all, &
> by the way, I really do enjoy all the information, not political
> however, on
> this list, it's been very helpful to me as a care-giver.
>
> Nan
> > Dee, Ray and others:
> >
> > I do not have exact numbers but I think these are a close
> > approximation:
> >
> > In the last 12 years we have probably lost less than 100 United
> > States soldiers who were killed in combat situations.  (Yes some
> > have been killed in training exercises --- the majority of which
> > are due to mechanical failure of planes and helicopter --- a risk
> > taken anytime you train for defense of this country)
> >
> > On the other hand --- between embassy bombings, hijacked planes,
> > and the World Trade Center attack there have been 5000 or more
> > American citizens and United States residents killed in
> > NON-combat situations.
> >
> > That puts the ratio of NON-combat to combat casualties at at
> > least 100:1.
> >
> > That puts non-combat casualties at least 5000% higher than combat
> > losses.
> >
> > I have been in combat as an artillery officer, not by choice, but
> > I have been there.  I can safely say there were 1000's of
> > casualties caused by the "do good" peace activists at home.  We
> > would track the enemy down and have them in our sights.  Suddenly
> > we were told to halt our mission because of a new "policy" coming
> > out of our beloved congress due to pressure from the "peace
> > keepers".  While we were waiting for new orders we would be
> > attacked by the people we had just tracked down --- along with
> > the resulting casualties.
> >
> > Look how many thousands of innocent Americans have died because
> > the conservative approach was taken in Desert Storm to make the
> > encounter "short and sweet" and keep casualties at a
> > inimum  ---- to appease the "peace keepers".  In my opinion those
> > deaths are on their shoulders.
> >
> > Paul
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Dolores Buente" <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 7:27 PM
> > Subject: Iraq and Parkinson's research-an important connection
> >
> >
> > These same thoughts were going through my mind just this morning
> > even before
> > I read this post.  But, In addition to thinking of this situation
> > in terms of
> > dollars, I was thinking of it in terms of morality issues.
> >
> > Bush wants to invade Iraq.  His motive is to oust Saddam and
> > protect the
> > lives of Americans.  In doing this, no doubt, hundreds, maybe
> > thousands of
> > people will lose their lives (American and Iraqi citizens).  Bush
> > obviously
> > feels this needs to be done in spite of the lives that will be
> > lost.  On the
> > other hand, he shudders and weeps to think that cells in a petrii
> > dish could
> > possibly be harmed by manipulation of the nucleus in order to
> > further science
> > in its quest to save lives, pain and misery.  What is it that
> > George Bush
> > wants to protect Americans for?  So that we can spend our days in
> > wheelchairs
> > and ultimately confined to nursing homes?  I am becoming more and
> > more
> > disgusted with the cloak of morality these politician wrap
> > themselves in.
> >
> > That is all I will say on this issue today.  I am saving for
> > another day my
> > comments on the two nation Parkinson's Foundations that cannot
> > seem to set
> > aside their differences (and possibly their positions of power)
> > for the good
> > of the people they serve.
> >
> > Dee
> >
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