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From: "Ronaky Olga" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 12:04 PM
Subject: 1. Papaya extract 2. PD and/or hypothyroidism?


> Hi Friends,
>
> I have some important questions, hope some one can help me.
>
> 1. Has anybody out there tried out  Osato's Immun'Age FPP (papaya
extract)?
>
> Me and a PWP fellow run a Hungarian-English link collection for PWPs and a
> CG (wife)
> called me today asking for help and info on papaya extract. I found alot
> links and articles about this papaya extract but not any experiments from
> PWPs, only Dan H's letter in this July to PIEN , with almost no replies,
and
> one letter from a PWP to Kathrynne Holden in my AsktheDietitian
collection.
> I explained to the CG that according to the articles etc. it is not yet
> advised to use this supplementary, but they - she and her 49 yr old PWP
> husband - are extremly desperated to try it out. A friend of their lives
in
> Hungary and also in Los Angeles where the Immun'Age can be purchased from,
> and their friend flies back to LA in the near future...
>
> Any advice and info would be highly appreciated!
>
> 2. This part is about me...
>
> There is nothing positive change in my state, moreover, I am not at all
> doing  well.
>
> -more and more water (and gaining weight ) collected all in my body
>
> -due to this terrible weight I am hardly able to move at all
> -diuretics and heart meds give less and less use
>
> -constant pain is in my shoulders and arms, beside the "normal" pains
>
> -my local doc cut me off the Madopar, saying I was too young to take it,
now
> I am on Mirapex again, but without amantadine
>
> - meds and painkillers do not give me lessening from RLS (Restless
> LegSyndr.)
>
> -hardly am able to carry out the most simple tasks because of the strong
> pain and weakness in my arms and generally, in my body (e.g. it is a real
> crime to make my hair or a tooth brushing...)
>
> -I am always tired, very-very tired
> - cannot stand the tiniest stress
>
> -still have breathing and BP (blood pressure) problems
>
> -there are more than 6 adenomas/nodus in my  left thyroid gland (the right
> gland was totally resected due to a "hot and toxic" adenoma in 1976), and
> htey seem to be more and more as if they were spread almost month by month
>
> -I have almost all the symptoms of hypothyroidism
>
> -there is a nice middle size "stone" in my kidney, but I was told by the
> urologist "Dear Ma'm, the better thing is if you will give birth to this
> stone baby alone! Aauuhh,10 yrs ago I gave birth to "kidney sands" (????)
> alone - oh guys, believe me, it is not a thing to dream about for a
> girl...or a boy
>
> -something is also went wrong with my liver (it is quite enlarged ,
though,
> unfortunately, I have never been able to drink alcohol!)
>
> -I guess I am in a very deep depression, I cry more and more, have no any
> will and power to do anything
>
> - docs do not do anything, maybe they are waiting for me to tell them what
> to do ((UltraSound exams to control my thyr. glands were carried out 3
> different times  in 3
> different parts of Hungary, and only these USound docs gave me some
advice:
> go to a
> surgery right now or ASAP - one of them also mentioned that the "shadows"
> ????? of the adenomas are "not good" - she meant, perhaps, that those
> adenomas/nodus are not benign, she did not explain it. Oh, one more thing:
> the pulmonologist (I had pneumonia, among others, in the past fwe weeks)
> also told me this surgeary thing, because the struma is growing inside,
> towards my heart and it also begins to push my oesophagus.  Their dx was
> struma nodosa and mix edema. without any written comment.   Well,  it is
not
> so easy, I cannot go to an operating room and ask somebody for "Will you
> please cut my neck...?" There are special,  difficult official ways to get
> in to an operating room.))
>
> - taking into account that there are alot (OK, some) similarities between
PD
> and hypothyr. symptoms, isn't it possible that I have only one disease of
> them...?
>
>
> Ideas? Opinions? Suggestions? Similar experiments?
>
> Love,
>
> Olga
> 51/47/40 PWP and CG for my own
>
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