Blessed be those that make room in their hearts for the rest of us.

Rock on, Wendy and Jo Ann.

Rick

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jo Ann Coen" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 11:45 AM
Subject: Re: Souls in limbo


> Wendy - Being a staunch church-goer,   does not make a trip to
Heaven.  I
> am a church goer, in fact, play the piano for my church every
Sunday, for
> the last 12-1/2 years.  However, I go to get fed the Word.  That
doesn't
> make you a bad person, nor does it particularly make me a good
person.
> It's what in your heart that counts.  I've read many of your
messages,
> and find you to be an articulate, compassionate person.  Anyone who
has
> read you for almost 2 years, will see that in your words.  Yes,
yesterday
> is already gone and cannot be repeated, so don't fret.  Tomorrow is
not
> here yet, so don't fret about that.  Just live today in a way you'll
be
> proud of, and I know you are doin so.  Best to you.  Jo Ann
>
> On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 12:17:19 -0600 Wendy Siegel <[log in to unmask]>
writes:
> > Hi Ned!
> > I understand your point, but I don't know if I agree. I am very
much
> > an
> > independent thinker, and I find pros and cons to any side. Just
> > because
> > I am not in the church at this time in my life doesn't mean that I
> > won't
> > be in the future. It is just not something I feel I need at this
> > time,
> > but who knows what tomorrow will bring? I know people whom I
admire
> > who
> > are in the church, and sometimes even independent thinkers need
what
> > being part of a group can provide. There is strength in numbers,
and
> > if
> > we (PWP) could ever compromise and pursue a common goal, just
think
> > what
> > could be accomplished! :)
> >
> > Wendy
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Parkinson's Information Exchange Network
> > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Ned Gardner
> > Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2005 7:56 AM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: Souls in limbo
> >
> > Wendy:
> >
> > Am I correct when say your independent thinking has led you to not
> > join
> > a
> > church, and also have the ability of interpreting  the intent of
my
> > thought
> > process?
> >
> > Ned
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Wendy Siegel" <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 10:51 AM
> > Subject: Re: Souls in limbo
> >
> >
> > > Ned:
> > > Belonging to a church does not preclude someone from being an
> > > independent self informed thinker. One way to effectively
> > communicate
> > > might be to stop calling names and assuming that you are better
or
> > > smarter than they are. By the way, I don't belong to a church,
but
> > I
> > do
> > > believe in a higher power.
> > >
> > > Wendy
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Parkinson's Information Exchange Network
> > > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Ned Gardner
> > > Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 9:02 AM
> > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > Subject: Re: Souls in limbo
> > >
> > > Peggy:
> > > Please remember when  referring to the "church herd"
> > > it could  never include an independent self informed thinker
such
> > as
> > > your
> > > self.   What are your thoughts on how to effectively
> > > communicate with the church herd.
> > >
> > > Ned
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Peggy Willocks" <[log in to unmask]>
> > > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 9:39 AM
> > > Subject: Re: Souls in limbo
> > >
> > >
> > >> Ned
> > >>
> > >> Please remember when referring to the anti-abortionists as the
> > "church
> > >> herd," that not all of the herd is created equal.  I am part of
> > the
> > > church
> > >> herd, but DO NOT agree with the present stand on stem cell
usage.
> > And
> > >> regardless of what anybody says, one CAN be pro-life and an
> > advocate
> > > of
> > >> stem
> > >> cells simultaneously.
> > >>
> > >> (See an article done a while back -
> > >>
> > >
> >
>
http://www.parkinsons-information-exchange-network-online.com/parkmail
1/
> > > 2003c/msg00091.html )
> > >>
> > >> Thanks.
> > >>
> > >> Peggy
> > >>
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: Ned Gardner
> > >> To: [log in to unmask]
> > >> Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 11:03 AM
> > >> Subject: Re: Souls in limbo
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Rayilynlee:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> The church herd would rather see aborted material go straight
to
> > the
> > >> incinerator rather than used for any stem cell research.  You
see
> > this
> > >> deprives the woman of any
> > >>
> > >> possibility of feeling that something good can come from
> > >>
> > >> her choice.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Ned
> > >>
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: "rayilynlee" <[log in to unmask]>
> > >> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > >> Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 10:54 PM
> > >> Subject: Re: Souls in limbo
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> Dee
> > >>> These same people are also doing other evil things besides
> > opposing
> > > ESCR
> > >>> and
> > >>> NT.  I tell you we are entering a terrible period of history.
> > >>> Ray
> > >>> ----- Original Message -----
> > >>> From: "Dolores Buente" <[log in to unmask]>
> > >>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > >>> Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 7:53 AM
> > >>> Subject: Re: Souls in limbo
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>> Dear Jennifer,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I share in your frustration.  It seems that we are living
> > through
> > an
> > >>>> important chapter in medical and moral history.  Later, when
> > this
> > > period
> > >>>> is recorded,
> > >>>> it will likely be compared to past practices and beliefs such
> > as
> > the
> > >>>> Salem
> > >>>> witch hunts and the persecution of people who were labeled
> > heretics
> > >>>> because they
> > >>>> declared that the world is round.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> History shows us that it often takes much effort and bravery
to
> > > advance
> > >>>> society forward. Look back at the struggle of individuals who
> > fought
> > > for
> > >>>> the right
> > >>>> of family planning.  They faced the wrath of those people and
> > >>>> institutions
> > >>>> who declared it sinful to practice birth control.  The same
> > people
> > > and
> > >>>> institutions who today declare it sinful to use cells in a
> > petrii
> > > dish
> > >>>> to
> > >>>> alleviate
> > >>>> pain and suffering.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Dee
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >
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