According to what I have read and heard from researchers there are other
neurotransmitters besides dopamine and other parts of the brain besides the
substantia nigra affected by pd.  One reference I  have looked at recently
on this subject was  the spring 05 "parkinson report" from the npf.
\Randy


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From: "Charles Meyer" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 9:56 AM
Subject: Re: Stem cells


> Paula,
>
> I would like the references for each of the claims you have made..  I
> think you have confused  the studies.  I participated in a study that
> used  fetal cells rather than stem  cells and some of the subjects
> developed a  run away dyskinesia possibly because of  poor placement.
> As far as I know the cells did not develop into other ectodermal  tissue .
>
> Regarding Bush being anti science,  his support  of teaching "
> intelligent design"  in science classes
> is akin to teaching that some people believe that  the sun goes around
> the earth in astronomy class.  He appoints cronies who agree with him in
> spite  of their poor qualifications and ignores reports that he
> disagrees with like global warming.  Yes there is money  in grants for
> certain lines of research but other less popular (AND LESS LIKELY TO
> develop into positive knowledge) gets less money but science goes on and
> it works .  Likely it will be found  that the dopamine from the
> substantia nigra is not the only neurotransmitter which is operative in
> PD. But this is no reason to not study the sunbstantia nigra  and
> dopamine..
>
> Unfortunately PD is incurable at the current time.. in spite of claims
> to the contrary stem cell research both types (adult and embryonic),
> have potential to develop into such a cure. and the  ban on funding
> ESCR while  it is admittedly a long shot ,  gives me and others hope
> that we will survive long enough  to take advantage of it.. Charles T.
> Meyer, MD
>
> Paula Nixon wrote:
>
>>The funny thing about stem cell treatment, the placebo patients in one
>>experiment that had the surgeries, but nothing was implanted, had very
>>good results.  Their PD symptoms were greatly reduced for over a year!
>>However, many of the people that received the implants had ghastly side
>>effects: violent movements like dyskinesia, the implanted cell developed
>>into teeth and optic tissue.  The Parkinson's researchers feel that
>>stem-cells will not yield good results.  If a body is determined to induce
>>dormancy in its own dopamine cells, it would eventually extinguish it in
>>other introduced cells unless those cells are growing out of control,
>>causing violent symptoms of dopamine excess.  The younger researchers
>>acknowledge many PD symptoms are not dopamine related.
>>
>>As to Bush accepting anti-science, the scientific community is extremely
>>tight.  If anyone, even one of their own comes up with a differing theory,
>>they are not listened to.  The grants and money are where it is.  In this
>>case it is that dopamine is the answer, whether it is or not. They will
>>let the PDs live or die by their decision. So anyone that goes against
>>their plan, is anti-science, even if the anti-science is very scientific,
>>done by PhDs, Mds and whatever.
>>Paula
>>
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