Marsha, guess what, I found my original post of 3-10-07, thanks to
Amanda.....I don't save stuff I have so much of it.  I noticed this time it
was someone writing about Lanza's theory, not himself.  When I searched it I
found, like you, people talking about it or excerpts.  Also, when I clicked
on links to his American Scholar article, my attempts to access it failed.

Your pains sound like PD to me and like what I have.  I'm starting to get
spasms in my legs that are quite painful.  Hope your neuro can provide some
insights.  I'm sorry to hear you are having difficulty.  When I last talked
to you you didn't mention it.
Ray
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Subject: Re: "Biocentric" theory of universe


>I think Dr.  Lanza is one smart guy.  I never did believe "time" was real.
> Ray
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> From: "Amanda Phillips" <[log in to unmask]>
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> Subject: Re: "Biocentric" theory of universe
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>> In a message dated 10/03/2007 07:03:48 GMT Standard Time,
>> [log in to unmask]
>> writes:
>>
>> Will  Biology Solve the Universe?
>> By Aaron Rowe| Also by this reporter
>> 10:00  AM Mar, 08, 2007
>> For years, scientists have tried to develop a universal  theory of
>> everything. Steven Hawking predicts that such a theory will be
>> discovered in
>> the next 20 years. A new theory asserts that biology, not  physics, will
>> be
>> the key to unlocking the deepest mysteries of the  universe, such as
>> quantum
>> mechanics.
>> "The answer to the universe is  biology -- it's as simple as that," says
>> Dr.
>> Robert Lanza, vice president  of research and scientific development at
>> Advanced Cell Technology. He  details his theory in The American
>> Scholar's
>> spring issue, published on  Thursday. Lanza says scientists will
>> establish a
>> unified theory only if  they radically rethink their understanding of
>> space
>> and time using a  "biocentric" approach. His article is essentially a
>> biological and  philosophical response to Hawking's A Brief History of
>> Time,
>> in which he  questions how we interpret the big bang, the existence of
>> space
>> and time,  as well as many other theories -- assertions that might ruffle
>> the
>> feathers  of some physical scientists.
>> But Lanza is used to controversy. The 2005  Wired Rave Award winner has
>> seen
>> plenty in response to his stem cell and  cloning work at Advanced Cell.
>> And
>> he's ready for the scientific row his  latest work is likely to engender.
>> "The urgent and primary questions of the  universe have been undertaken
>> by
>> those physicists who are trying to explain  the origins of everything
>> with
>> grand unified theories," says Lanza in his  article. "But as exciting and
>> glamorous as these theories are, they are an  evasion, if not a reversal,
>> of
>> the central mystery of knowledge: that the  laws of the world were
>> somehow
>> created to produce the observer."
>> At  several points in his article, he argues that cosmologists are doing
>> work
>> that has been hijacked by creationists.
>> "In cosmology, scientists  have discovered that the universe has a long
>> list
>> of traits that make it  appear as if everything it contains -- from atoms
>> to
>> stars -- was  tailor-made for us," he writes. "Indeed, the lack of a
>> scientific  explanation has allowed these facts to be hijacked as a
>> defense
>> of  intelligent design."
>> Lanza argues that time is not the linear phenomena  that we are
>> comfortable
>> with. Rather, our perception of time is a tool we  use to understand the
>> world around us. While it works well for the average  person, it hampers
>> our
>> understanding of advanced physics. In this Wired  News Q&A, Lanza
>> explains
>> more about the theory he calls his life's work  .
>> Wired News: You call your theory of the universe a biocentric theory.
>> What,
>> exactly, does that mean?
>> Lanza: This new theory presents a shift  in world view with the
>> perspective
>> that life creates the universe instead  of the other way around.
>> WN: I imagine that a lot of physicists will be  rather upset by your
>> article.
>> How do you expect them to react?
>> Lanza:  People are not going to be very happy with what this all means.
>> This
>> theory  is going to invalidate their (some scientists) entire life's
>> work. I
>> will  definitely get crucified.
>> We've got the scientific structure and framework  incorrect. We need a
>> theory
>> that is internally consistent. We can't do this  without creating a
>> biological understanding of space and time. This will  require
>> restructuring
>> science so that biology is above physics.
>> WN: Does  that mean you think that big physics and astronomy projects
>> should
>> not be  funded?
>> Lanza: Of course they should be funded. I don't think that  everything
>> should
>> be changed. What I am saying is that there is a missing  piece to the
>> puzzle
>> of how the universe works. The answer is biology. It is  as simple as
>> that.
>> The biological picture of space and time must be  integrated into our
>> understanding of physics.
>> WN: Why do you think that  there is such a deep misunderstanding of what
>> time
>> and space really  are?
>> Lanza: Our minds are structured to think that way. Even Einstein  avoided
>> the
>> question of what space and time are. He simply defined them as  what we
>> measure with clocks and measuring-rods. However, the emphasis  should be
>> on
>> the "we," not the measuring.
>> WN: Do you expect that some  people will read your article and think you
>> mean
>> that they can sit on a  mountaintop and meditate to change the world
>> around
>> them with mind  powers?
>> Lanza: We can't decide that we want to jump off the roof and not  get
>> hurt.
>> However much we want, we can't violate the rules of  spatiotemporal
>> logic.
>> WN: In your article, you make the assertion that time  and space do not
>> exist. What do you mean by that?
>> Lanza: There is  something very unusual about them. We can't put them in
>> a
>> marmalade jar and  take them back to the lab for analysis. Space and time
>> are
>> forms of animal  sense perception. Space and time are not objects or
>> things -- they are  forms of animal sense perception.
>> Thousands of articles and books have  danced around the desire to toss
>> off
>> the current mechanical world view that  has dominated Western culture for
>> hundreds of years. While some imply that  time and space may not in fact
>> exist, this article diagrams, for the first  time, such a universe -- a
>> universe in which time and space do not exist as  physical realities
>> independent of humans and animals.
>> WN: You seem to  disagree with how the world was created.
>> Lanza: There are serious problems  with the current world view. We pride
>> ourselves in our current beliefs and  then we (scientists) say, and by
>> the
>> way, we have no idea why the big bang  happened.
>> WN: Can you explain why we should doubt the things that are  accepted as
>> the
>> truth in science classes everywhere?
>> Lanza: For the  first time outside of complex mathematics, this theory
>> explains the  provocative new experiment that was just published in
>> Science
>> last month.  This landmark experiment showed that a choice you make now
>> can
>> actually  influence an event that has already occurred in the past.
>> Scientists  continue to dismiss the observer as an inconvenience to their
>> theories.  Real experiments show that the properties of matter itself
>> are
>> observer-determined. A particle can go through one hole if you look at
>> it,
>> but if you don't look at it, it can actually go through more than one
>> hole
>> at the same time. Science has no explanation for how the world can be
>> like
>> that.
>>
>> *This is why light can be both and/or a wave and a  particle,  depending
>> upon
>> perception.  Ray,
>>
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>> If there's a theory of everything,does  that mean it's a theory of
>> itself ?
>> - and there's a theory of a theory of a theory of a .... oh, never  mind
>> !
>>
>> amanda
>>
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