In a message dated 25/03/2007 07:07:09 GMT Standard Time,  [log in to unmask]
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Thank  you, Scott, I sort of understand it.  Your P.S.. really strikes  a
cord.  This is why I gave up on Religious Science - there are some  things
you can't think away...and my ovarian cancer went away with no  "good"
thoughts at all!!
Ray
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From:  "Scott E. Antes" <[log in to unmask]>
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Subject: Re: Scott-What is a "Holographic" Universe?


> Hi  Ray!  I forget the judge's name, but when he was asked to define
>  pornography, he said, "I know it when I see it."  This is not my area  of
> expertise, but I know a hologram when I see it.  The  particular type of
> hologram the author describes below is a projected  3D image of a material
> object.  It looks "real."  One can  view it from any direction, and there
> it
> is.  Yet, it is  only an image.  It's not a tangible thing.  One can't
> touch  it
> (in the sense that most of us think of touch), because it is  non-material.
> Yet, as we look at it, we see something "real."  On  Star Tek: The Next
> Generation, the Enterprise had a "holodeck," where  crew members could dial
> up
> any kind of situation with which to  interact, containing like-real humans
> and
> like-real settings,  but it was all imagery.  (Of course, in the Star Trek
> version,  crew members could "touch" these images as if they were material
>  things.)  I think what Lanza is saying is that much of our  individual
> reality
> consists of what we perceive as being  "there," but isn't necessarily
> "really"
> there, in the material  sense.  Speaking of sense, did I make any?  Scott
>
>  PS: To many people on this planet, PD--like every other malady--is only  an
> illusion.  Maybe so, but as an illusion myself :-), I'd hate  to be the one
> to
> tell that to the sufferer.  The  "illusionary" response would break my
> "illusionary"  heart.
>
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>>Scott, can you explain in simpler terms than expressed in  this article
>>what
>>"holographic" or a hologram  means?
>>Thanks, Ray
>>
>>
>>Biocentric  and Holographic Universe
>>I recently stumbled across an intriguing  interpretation of the
>>implications
>>of quantum physics. I  thought this fit rather nicely with some other
>>theories I've come  upon, so I decided to attempt to integrate them.
>>
>>In the  American Scholar article "A New Theory of the Universe",  Dr.Robert
>>Lanza tells physicists they've been barking up the wrong  tree. Lanza is a
>>leading expert in tissue engineering, cloning and  stem cell research. He
>>is
>>not a physicist and so is  likely to be ignored by the physics community.
>>Yet, he may be on to  something.
>>"The urgent and primary questions of the universe have  been undertaken by
>>those physicists who are trying to explain the  origins of everything with
>>grand unified theories. But as exciting  and glamorous as these theories
>>are,
>>they are an  evasion, if not a reversal, of the central mystery  of
>>knowledge:
>>that the laws of the world were somehow  created to produce the observer.
>>And
>>more important than  this, that the observer in a significant sense creates
>>reality and  not the other way around. Recognition of this insight leads  to
>>a
>>single theory that unifies our understanding of the  world.
>>..As unimaginable as it may seem to us, the logic of quantum  physics is
>>inescapable. Every morning we open our front door to  bring in the paper or
>>to go to work. We open the door to rain,  snow, or trees swaying in the
>>breeze. We think the world churns  along whether we happen to open the door
>>or not. Quantum mechanics  tells us it doesn't.
>>
>>The trees and snow evaporate when  we're sleeping. The kitchen disappears
>>when we're in the bathroom.  When you turn from one room to the next, when
>>your animal senses no  longer perceive the sounds of the dishwasher, the
>>ticking clock,  the smell of a chicken roasting-the kitchen and all its
>>seemingly  discrete bits dissolve into nothingness-or into waves  of
>>probability. The universe bursts into existence from life, not  the other
>>way
>>around as we have been taught. For each  life there is a universe, its own
>>universe. We generate spheres of  reality, individual bubbles of
>>existence."
>>I think this  fits well with the notion of a holographic universe.  Consider
>>a
>>transmission hologram. At first it appears to  be simply an interference
>>pattern, but when illuminated with a  laser a fully realized 3D object pops
>>into view. In a similar way,  the universe exists as an interference
>>pattern
>>of  probability waves. When a portion of the pattern is "lit up" by  an
>>observer it generates what we perceive as physical reality.  Perhaps each
>>bubble generates an "image" of the whole universe,  just as individual
>>pieces
>>of a hologram that has been  cut apart retain the entire image, but with
>>some
>>loss of  detail.
>>
>>There is some theoretical support for a  holographic universe. Per
>>Wikipedia,
>>"The holographic  principle is a speculative conjecture about  quantum
>>gravity
>>theories, proposed by Gerard 't Hooft  and improved and promoted by Leonard
>>Susskind, claiming that all of  the information contained in a volume of
>>space can be represented  by a theory that lives in the boundary of  that
>>region."
>>
>>I'm going to try and  paraphrase the Wikipedia description of the reasoning
>>so we don't  get too bogged down:
>>
>>The entropy that can be contained  in any given volume of space can not be
>>any larger than the entropy  of the largest black hole that can fit in that
>>space. The more  massive the black hole, the larger the surface area of the
>>event  horizon. This means the maximum entropy for any region of space  is
>>determined by surface area, not by volume. This is  counter-intuitive
>>because
>>entropy is an extensive  variable, being directly proportional to mass,
>>which
>>is  proportional to volume (all else being equal, including the density  of
>>the mass). If entropy of ordinary mass is also proportional to  area, this
>>implies that volume itself is somehow illusory: that  mass occupies area,
>>not
>>volume, and so the universe is  really a hologram which corresponds to the
>>information encoded on  its boundaries.
>>
>>Then there are the philosophies of  David Bohm, the quantum physicist who
>>wrote "Wholeness and the  Implicit Order"
>>Bohm suggests that the whole universe can be  thought of as a kind of
>>giant,
>>flowing hologram, or  holomovement, in which a total order is contained, in
>>some implicit  sense, in each region of space and time. The explicate order
>>is a  projection from higher dimensional levels of reality, and  the
>>apparent
>>stability and solidity of the objects and  entities composing it are
>>generated and sustained by a ceaseless  process of enfoldment and
>>unfoldment,
>>for subatomic  particles are constantly dissolving into the implicate order
>>and  then recrystallizing.
>>More on David Bohm  later.
>>
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> Northern Arizona University
>  Flagstaff, AZ 86011-5200
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I've seen an exhibition of holograms, they're basically 3-D images made of
light, like a shadow -play on a wall, but with thickness. If you touch them you
 just go straight through - & get told off. Dunno what the point of them is
other than amusemen, they didn't look that real.






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