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Subject:

Re: our joint piece

From:

Amanda Goldrick-Jones <[log in to unmask]>

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CASLL/Inkshed <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Mon, 24 Mar 2008 08:59:43 -0700

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Hi all,

How about a closing sentence saying that various members of CASLL and CATTW
collaborated on this piece, and then have the executive members or
presidents of CASLL and CATTW as signatories.

Cheers,
Amanda

On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 8:41 AM, wendy strachan <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> I agree with Margaret - willing as I originally was to join it, I began
> wondering what we intend to accomplish with a list of signatures. Perhaps
> reference could be made to the collaborative drafting process as a way of
> indicating that this is indeed a piece that represents the constituency.
> Marche's piece gave us an opportunity to sustain a little attention to
> writing in a vehicle that reaches many colleagues which is clearly all to
> the good. A list of signatures could seem defensive?
>
> Wendy
>
> Gabriola Island, BC
> V0R1X5
> Phone/Fax: 250-247-8392
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: CASLL/Inkshed [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Margaret
> Procter
> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 8:31 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: our joint piece
>
> I'm very happy to have Susan writing our response, and to see such good
> input from others. But it isn't a petition we're sending. Having a
> single signature and a reference to the two professional organizations
> would sound calmer and more confident.
> -- Margaret
>
>
> Catherine F. Schryer wrote:
> > Hi all
> > I think it would be great if we could have a "host of signatures."
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Betsy Sargent"
> > <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 8:21 PM
> > Subject: Re: our joint piece
> >
> >
> >> Susan, I want to join everyone else in thanking you for drafting this
> >> piece. I think the tone is excellent. I was wondering if it would
> >> make sense to have not just CASLL/Inkshed members signing it, but
> >> CATTW as well? (there's so much overlap between the two--and it gives
> >> us a chance, as Anthony mentioned, of highlighting the professional
> >> organizations that exist in the field). I'm not sure of the
> >> logistics involved in signing such a piece, but I'd certainly be
> >> honored to have my name associated with it, as a member of either
> >> organization.
> >>
> >> If you're still working on a revision, I thought perhaps Tosh's point
> >> of agreement with Marche ("Greater TA training and support are
> >> needed") might be worth highlighting. And also you might emphasize
> >> what you mentioned in your earlier email about WHIIPS--that "Write
> >> Here in Plain Sight is Sunny Marche's response to his observation
> >> that much learning is tacit . . . ." Because so much of the rich
> >> resevoir of knowledge faculty have about writing in their own
> >> disciplines is tacit, TAs are not the only ones who need some
> >> training and help figuring out how to integrate more writing
> >> productively into upper-level courses. As Shurli mentioned, scholars
> >> in Writing Studies research disciplinary discourses and thus can help
> >> other faculty come to more explicit understandings about what it is
> >> they do when they write in their own fields--which in turn helps them
> >> make their tacit expectations clearer to students (it's hard for
> >> students to learn all they need to know about writing in a particular
> >> field through observation alone--for one thing, since Marche is one
> >> of the few faculty to compose in public, students won't get many
> >> chances to observe writing in progress!).
> >>
> >> I like the tact of your piece as it stands now, but I'm also
> >> remembering how Wendy S. described working with faculty at SFU--what
> >> she described seemed like the best sort of collaboration between
> >> colleagues who shared their different areas of expertise to mutual
> >> advantage (the faculty in other disciplines would show her samples of
> >> what they considered excellent work in the field, from senior
> >> scholars as well as from novices/students, and together she and the
> >> faculty member would do a discourse analysis that would help them
> >> articulate for students what the defining characteristics of
> >> excellence were in that community of discourse and what was expected
> >> for particular assignments).
> >>
> >> Sorry--I know all of this is obvious to Inkshed and CATTW folks--I'm
> >> just trying to think here of a way to acknowledge the expertise
> >> Shurli brought up while also acknowledging how much those of us in
> >> Writing Studies need (and need constantly to acknowledge) the
> >> expertise of faculty in other fields in order to help WAC initiatives
> >> work well. Unlike Shurli, I don't have specific words to suggest--but
> >> maybe there's a way to use Marche's own idea about the tacit to
> >> strike this balance (that is, even with training TAs who will be
> >> assigned to WAC courses, it's often a matter of helping them make
> >> explicit moves they already make tacitly in their own disciplinary
> >> writing).
> >>
> >> Thanks again for taking this on. Best, Betsy
> >>
> >> At 09:53 AM 3/22/2008, you wrote:
> >>> Thanks everyone for the comments so far and for the wiki editing.
> >>> I wanted to get some feedback before I tried to finish it, and this
> >>> has been very helpful. Let me absorb and get back to you.
> >>>
> >>> Cheers (and to those to whom it applies, Happy Easter!)
> >>>
> >>> Susan
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Susan Drain, PhD
> >>> Department of English
> >>> Mount Saint Vincent University
> >>> Halifax, NS Canada B3M 2J6
> >>> 902 457 6220
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