Jim
I really fail to see what is offensive about that paragraph.  If I did know 
it would be difficult to censor parts of articles.  I would not have 
objected to it when I was a  Republican....not all Republicans are 
anti-science, only a minority of religious fundamentalists, but they control 
the GOP today, IMHO.  It is not the same party that once was the most 
progressive on the slavery issue.  I can remember when this science thing 
was not an issue.  We are retrogressing

This being the 21st century, I thought we would not still be fighting the 
battles  of Galileo.  I don't see how America can be "First" if we lag 
behind the rest of the world in science.

Ray

Rayilyn Brown
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Arizona Chapter National Parkinson Foundation
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Subject: Re: "precious little input"


> Ray,
>
> Last night on Larry King, President Clinton said  45% of Americans are 
> republicans.
>
> Why alienate such a large percentage of your audience with your lead- in 
> email observations such as:
>
>> Why would religious zealots fund scientific research, anyway? Why 
>> should we strive to understand the universe we live in when God can 
>> easily be inserted where all the knowledge gaps are? Sarah Palin  and 
>> her ilk are also quick to reject the overwhelming scientific  evidence 
>> of global warming and its consequences; after all, we're  living in the 
>> end times, right?
>
> You have become the primary information provider for this list. Are  you 
> going to be a reporter or a satirist?
>
> Regards to Spike.
>
> ....Jim
>
>
>
>
> On Sep 24, 2008, at 1:14 PM, rayilynlee wrote:
>
>> Jim
>> thanks for your input.  I did not write the article you mention as 
>> portraying me as a knuckledragger, although I agree with it.  what  part 
>> do you find offensive?
>>
>> As to "not thinking"  or being  "incredibly bitter" I probably  became 
>> incredibly bitter when I became a Democrat in 2001 and was  not thinking 
>> when I was a Republican all my life until age 66.  I  probably got 
>> Parkinson's disease because I didn't exercise enough  and was too liberal 
>> in my views. That is what the knuckledraggers I  know tell me.
>>
>> Seriously,  I got over being afraid to say what I thought when I  became 
>> a teacher.  You sink or swim and kids don't put up with  phonies.
>>
>> Ray
>>
>> Rayilyn Brown
>> Director AZNPF
>> Arizona Chapter National Parkinson Foundation
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>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Holcomb" 
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>> >
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 4:41 PM
>> Subject: Re: "precious little input"
>>
>>
>>> On Sep 22, 2008, at 4:05 PM, rayilynlee wrote:
>>>
>>>> Our mission is to disseminate information about Parkinson's  disease 
>>>> and its possible cure.
>>>>
>>>> About 3-4 years ago, after Murray Charters died, Diane Wyshak 
>>>> approached me with the request that I post the articles she finds  on 
>>>> PD research and general information on PIEN.  She picked me  because 
>>>> I'm not afraid to say what I think and she would rather  play a  behind 
>>>> the scenes supportive role.
>>>>
>>>> Since that time she has worked tirelessly despite great pain,  to 
>>>> provide  me with hundreds of articles daily to peruse, select,  plain- 
>>>> text and post.  Diane not only has Parkinson's disease, but  advanced 
>>>> stage cancer which involves many surgeries.
>>>>
>>>> She provides me with lots of political info you never see,  but 
>>>> embryonic stem research and science in general have become 
>>>> inextricably interwoven with politics in the past  8 years.  I do   not 
>>>> intend to eliminate them from my posts to please a few  people.   The 
>>>> fates of millions of people who suffer from disease  and  disability 
>>>> are directly related to the actions our political  leaders  take.   To 
>>>> excuse them or be ignorant of their positions  is not  acceptable to 
>>>> me.
>>>>
>>>> I am an ovarian cancer survivor who has had Parkinson's disease  over 
>>>> 12 years.  Spike, my dog , is my caregiver, and we would  appreciate 
>>>> your support.
>>>>
>>>> Ray
>>>>
>>>> Rayilyn Brown
>>>> Director AZNPF
>>>> Arizona Chapter National Parkinson Foundation
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>>>
>>>
>>> Ray,
>>>
>>> Posts like the one below do not yield credit for you or the 
>>> Information Exchange.
>>>
>>> It makes me wonder if the judgement made by Diane Wyshak really  should 
>>> value the fact that you're "...  not afraid to say what I  think ..."
>>> Are you really  thinking or are you just incredibly bitter?
>>>
>>> While I appreciate the service you provide in forwarding articles,  in 
>>> some of your commentary (like the one below) you come across as  just 
>>> as much a knuckle dragger as you would paint the opposition.
>>>
>>> I believe your genuine and generous service to the community is 
>>> seriously compromised by the way you represent your opinions.
>>>
>>> ... Jim
>>>
>>>
>>> Source:  Star Tribune, Minnesota Netlets for Thursday, Sept. 18
>>> Last update: September 18, 2008 - 3:36 PM
>>>
>>> Contempt for science has threatening implications
>>>
>>> The massive Hadron Collider in Europe ("The nature of the  universe," 
>>> Sept. 11) is another obvious example that the United  States is no 
>>> longer No. 1 in science.
>>>
>>> Under the Bush administration, our best scientists have been  leaving 
>>> in droves to other countries for better opportunities due  to the 
>>> politicization of issues ranging from embryonic stem cell  research to 
>>> climate change. This should come as no surprise to  Republicans given 
>>> their gleeful cheers for John McCain's new  fundamentalist V.P. 
>>> candidate.
>>>
>>> Why would religious zealots fund scientific research, anyway? Why 
>>> should we strive to understand the universe we live in when God  can 
>>> easily be inserted where all the knowledge gaps are? Sarah  Palin and 
>>> her ilk are also quick to reject the overwhelming  scientific evidence 
>>> of global warming and its consequences; after  all, we're living in the 
>>> end times, right?
>>>
>>> This contempt for science threatens both our country's economic  future 
>>> and the world that our children will inherit from us.
>>>
>>> Rayilyn Brown
>>> Director AZNPF
>>> Arizona Chapter National Parkinson Foundation
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