thanks, Cees, and I apologize for my countrymen who dis your country.  I 
read somewhere that it depended on what illness and where you lived as to 
how good care was in Canada.  I daresay that is true here.

I fear the fear mongers will succeed again in depriving the only 
industrialized nation in the world w/out national healtlh care of it once 
more.  I have crazy relatives who believe what they hear from the right.  I 
sent your email testimony to some of them.

Ray

Rayilyn Brown
Director AZNPF
Arizona Chapter National Parkinson Foundation
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From: "Cees Huisman" <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 9:46 AM
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Canadian health care

> Ok, I'll respond from a Canadian perspective. I believe our system is 
> great
> but obviously not perfect. Yes, waiting lists are sometimes a problem but
> for most acute illnesses the doctors and other professionals try to "get 
> on
> it" a.s.a.p. Care itself is excellent. All of us qualify no matter our
> income, so we don't see people losing their house or shirt over health 
> care.
> Medication is covered once you are a senior, i.e. after turning 65. Prior
> to that, many of us have health care plans through work or privately for
> drugs, dental work, therapies, etc. Health care funding is mostly through
> the general tax system but part is funded through workplace deductions, at
> least in Ontario. Costs are going up but that's also in response to more 
> of
> us getting older. It seems to me I read that the average health care costs
> in the USA are higher than in Canada. With my PD, I am glad to be in
> Canada.
> Casey
>
> On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 3:41 AM, rayilynlee <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> Murray
>>
>> I'm so glad a Canadian has come to the defense of their health care 
>> system
>> and would like to hear from more of you.
>>
>> I am 73 and cannot remember a time when lies became routine political
>> methods for defeating legislation, although I've heard that Medicare met
>> with similar opposition back in the 1960's in the US.  The really scary
>> thing is people are believing these lies.  I've been trying to get some
>> folks I know to actually read sections of the proposed legislation that
>> applies, but doubt that I have made a dent. These people are mostly high
>> school grads who have never been to a foreign country, just the types 
>> Glenn
>> Beck, Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh appeal to.
>>
>> My Mom and I had an encounter with the British system back in 1978 when 
>> we
>> got put off a cruise ship in Georgetown, Grand Cayman due to my Mom's
>> illness.  We were hospitalized about 5 days and she was only charged 
>> about
>> $200; I  wasn't charged anything because they had extra rooms and food. 
>> The
>> Cayman islanders don't pay taxes at all due because King George III 
>> exempted
>> them because instead of preying on people who were shipwrecked, they 
>> helped
>> them.
>>
>> I won't be surprised if we continue our return to the 11th century 
>> despite
>> Obama's election.
>>
>> Ray
>>
>> Rayilyn Brown
>> Director AZNPF
>> Arizona Chapter National Parkinson Foundation
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>> From: "Murray Kastner" <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 11:19 PM
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Subject: New swine flu vaccine
>>
>>  Greetings, folks!
>>>
>>> As a Canadian I receive treatment and medication free -- in spite of 
>>> the
>>> garbage being generated by the propaganda of the right. Don't  beleve 
>>> the
>>> ads saying that we are dying waiting for treatment. I am a  living 
>>> testimony
>>> that it is patently and utterly false. I don't know  how they can get 
>>> away
>>> with lying like that. The Canadian media would  be at their throats
>>> lickety-split
>>>
>>> Anyway, I just heard that our government -- you know, the ones who
>>> supposedly neglect to look after us -- has just ordereed more than 50
>>> million doses of vaccine against the new flu (swine flu). They say  they
>>> ordered twice the quantity for our population in the event that  we need 
>>> two
>>> doses each.
>>>
>>> Some of us are a bit leery of taking medication that is somewhat 
>>> untested
>>> or at least not exhaustively tested. Any viewsÉ
>>>
>>> Murra
>>>
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