as a taxpayer, of I want only to take care of those who are truly unable to take care  of themselves.  We can afford to do that.

--- On Wed, 9/2/09, Murray Kastner <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> From: Murray Kastner <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Constitution Rising
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Date: Wednesday, September 2, 2009, 1:33 AM
> Let me get this straight: the richest
> and advanced civilization on  
> this planet cannot afford the care and welfare of its
> citizens? There  
> is something seriously wrong with this picture! Maybe if
> the USA  
> refrained from stupid and expensive wars based on lies and
> deception  
> and fomented for profit, it could what might be termed its
> primary  
> obligations. Is that too simplistic?
> 
> On 1-Sep-09, at 10:13 AM, Black Charles wrote:
> 
> > RAy;
> >
> > No where in  this magnificent document is
> health  care mentioned as  
> > a right.
> >
> > Single payer WILL lead to rationing. We do not have
> enough doctors  
> > to service the millions who would be come elgible for
> care.
> >
> > I  think  that we should  incrementally
> ease in to a program that  
> > will take care of the 5-6 million who truly cannot
> afford it.
> >
> > To do otherwise risks a protracted resession.
> >
> > I will email you a proper answer to y our post.
> >
> > I am still amazed that Mr. Hill called me a racist.
> When all else  
> > fails I suppose......LOL
> >
> >
> >
> > --- On Mon, 8/31/09, rayilynlee <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
> >
> >> From: rayilynlee <[log in to unmask]>
> >> Subject: Re: Constitution Rising
> >> To: [log in to unmask]
> >> Date: Monday, August 31, 2009, 8:40 PM
> >> Charlie
> >>
> >> The purposes of the constitution are contained in
> the
> >> Preamble which states that:
> >>
> >> "We the people of the United States, in order to
> form a
> >> more perfect union, ESTABLISH JUSTICE,
> insure  domestic
> >> tranquility, provide for the common defense,
> PROMOTE THE
> >> GENERAL WELFARE, and secure the blessings of
> liberty to
> >> ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and
> establish this
> >> constitution for the United States of America."
> >>
> >> The original document counted slaves as 3/5 a
> person and
> >> women could not vote.  Thank goodness the
> founders gave
> >> us general guidelines and the ability to adapt to
> the times
> >> with this document.
> >>
> >> For those of us who believe that universal health
> care is a
> >> right, not a privilege of the rich, it is long
> overdue and
> >> in keeping with the principles of government
> stated above.
> >>
> >> Ray
> >>
> >> Rayilyn Brown
> >> Director AZNPF
> >> Arizona Chapter National Parkinson Foundation
> >> [log in to unmask]
> >>
> >>
> --------------------------------------------------
> >> From: "Black Charles" <[log in to unmask]>
> >> Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 10:18 AM
> >> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >> Subject: Re: Baboon Rising
> >>
> >>> there  are 4-5 million people who truly
> cannot
> >> afford health insurance. The rest (16-25 million)
> are either
> >> here illegally and as such the only government
> funds we
> >> should spend on them is a one way ticket to their
> country of
> >> origin. The other 15-20 million choose not to
> purchase
> >> insurance.
> >>> Health care  is NOT a Constitutional
> right! How
> >> would  you feel if you were
> >>> ORDERED by the Federal government to purchase
> health
> >> insurance?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> The Congressional Budget Office said 
> back in
> >> April that the unfunded liability of Obamas plan
> was 1
> >> TRILLION dollars and that the deficit would be 12
> TRILLION
> >> dollars even before healthcare. Those of us on
> MEdicare will
> >> be devestated if Obama tries to pull 500 BILLION
> dollars
> >> from it to partially pay for his plan.
> >>>
> >>> WE can solve this  problem without
> wrecking our
> >> economy.
> >>>
> >>> IF Obama gets his way we will see horrific
> inflation.
> >>> IF you note Obama last week had to agree with
> the CBO
> >> on  the deficit figures.
> >>>
> >>> Here's a hint  for you guys, watch what
> he DOES,
> >> NOT what he says!!!
> >>>
> >>> look at the "Czars' he  surrounds himself
> with.
> >>>
> >>> The special prosecutor for the CIA
> interrogators
> >> is  just a ruse to draw your attention away
> from his
> >> next move and to mollify his  ultra-liberal
> power
> >> base.
> >>>
> >>> P.T.Barnum was right.........
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Charlie
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
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