i agree also/ I have been wrestling with this since  i started answering some of these posts because I feel that all PWP's  should get the best care possible. You are right Roy, political dicussions even about care for PWP's really should not be here. I will desist.

Charlie

--- On Mon, 9/7/09, John <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> From: John <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Elephant in the Room
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Date: Monday, September 7, 2009, 11:25 PM
> Well said, Roy. I agree!
> 
> John
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "roy morris" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 10:37 PM
> Subject: Re: Elephant in the Room
> 
> 
> > 
> > 
> > My open response to all of these Ref: Elephant in the
> room. replies.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I am really tired of reading all of them . It is my
> feeling that this is not the web sight to promote your
> political opinions. ( or religious).
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I have received much information about P D which I am
> very grateful. It is my primary source of information about
> PD. Certainly it is more helpful than any thing I get from
> the Doctors. We can help each other about how PD will effect
> us and how to deal with it. I would like to see this sight
> restricted to the subject at hand and go somewhere else to
> vent your political views. This may tick you off but it is
> the way I feel.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Roy Morris
...........0> > 
> > 
> >> To: [log in to unmask]
> >> 
> >> you are painting with a broad brush there Ray! I
> disagee with your premise. The Conservatives have come up
> with many ides, mostly rejected out of hand by the
> "progessives".
> >> Don't intermix the terms "Progressive"
> and"Liberal" either,they are NOT the same thing!
> >> I have no confidence in the Fed's ability to run a
> single payer system.
> >> 
> >> the single payer system is designed for one thing
> and one thing only, and thats to give the Federal govenment
> control over 25% of our economy.
> >> Ezekual and Rahm Emanual are both on the record as
> supporting end of life rationing of health care. I have seen
> them say so, this is NOT a debateable point, it is a FACT.
> >> 
> >> These progressives give zero thought to the
> outcome of their actions, they just want their "vision"
> impliemented. The ends justify the means with these people.
> As a PWP I am concerned about everyone's care under single
> payer.
> >> Need I even start on Van Jones? Anyone who agrees
> with his positions...well....
> >> 
> >> Charlie
> >> --- On Fri, 9/4/09, rayilynlee <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
> >> 
> >> > From: rayilynlee <[log in to unmask]>
> >> > Subject: Elephant in the Room
> >> > To: [log in to unmask]
> >> > Date: Friday, September 4, 2009, 10:47 AM
> >> > The "elephant in the room" is that
> >> > there is no elephant (GOP) in the room when
> it comes to
> >> > progressive reforms.
> >> >
> >> > And with the exception of progressive
> Republicans in the
> >> > Progressive Era  (early 20th century)
> there has been no
> >> > effort from them to promote the general
> welfare since the
> >> > Civil War.  In the late 19th century
> Robber Barons made
> >> > the 14th Amendment their own, e.g., a
> corporation is a
> >> > "person".
> >> >
> >> > Since the 1930's they have opposed Social
> Security,
> >> > Medicare,  Medicaid, and universal
> health care, with
> >> > the same arguments:  It costs too much
> and it is
> >> > socialism.
> >> >
> >> > Moving too fast you say again, how long do we
> wait, another
> >> > few centuries?  Its kind of like waiting
> for a cure for
> >> > PD.  Don't hold your breath while the
> rest of the world
> >> > surges ahead.
> >> >
> >> > THE PRESENT DAY GOP DOES NOT WANT REFORM AND
> THEY WANT
> >> > OBAMA TO FAIL.  THEY ARE CONSERVATIVES
> and now their
> >> > lunatic fringe controls the party.
> >> > They are truly the party of "NO",  no
> change, no
> >> > solutions, no compassion.
> >> >
> >> > Ray
> >> >
> >> > Rayilyn Brown
> >> > Director AZNPF
> >> > Arizona Chapter National Parkinson
> Foundation
> >> > [log in to unmask]
> >> >
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