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Re: Inkshed conference this year

From:

Betsy Sargent <[log in to unmask]>

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casll-l: Canadian Association for the Study of Language and Learning (Inkshed)" <[log in to unmask]>

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Mon, 7 Mar 2011 14:34:13 -0700

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Dear all,

First of all, I'm happily sending off my 
membership dues to Brock today--so Roger, do add me to the list.

Second, I just want to support Jane's point about 
legalities and ask a question.  I've spent a lot 
of time this fall helping a struggling academic 
organization revise it's by-laws, run an online 
election, update its website and membership 
directory, and apply for official tax-free 
non-profit status in the US (it's official home 
is in the States, for tax purposes, even though 
it has members from all over the world).

One of the requirements in applying for 
non-profit status as a scholarly organization was 
that the by-laws had to specify what other 
non-profit organization would receive our funds 
if our organization died.  I'm assuming from 
Jane's email that the by-laws of Inkshed don't 
contain such a specification (the equivalent of a will)?

So my suggestion at the AGM is that we think 
about including that detail in any revised 
by-laws, if we do plan to continue as an 
organization.  Otherwise, we'll need to make a 
decision about which other scholarly 
organizations or projects we can legally donate 
our funds to (depending on the legal status of 
Inkshed's treasury, there may be restrictions on 
how those funds can be distributed).

Thanks for the work on sorting all this out and 
organizing a meeting at Congress.
Betsy

At 12:16 PM 3/7/2011, Roger Graves wrote:
>Brock MacDonald has informed me that we do, indeed, now have a paid up
>list of members. We will convene in Fredericton, hold a conference and
>AGM, and decide how to go forward from there.
>
>I have set up a separate email list for those planning to attend the
>conference; if anyone else is planning to attend that day, let me know
>and I'll add you to the list.
>
>Roger
>
>Roger Graves
>Director, Writing Across the Curriculum
>[log in to unmask]
>http://www.ualberta.ca/~graves1/
>780.492.2169
>
>On Mar 6, 2011, at 8:21 AM, Jane Milton wrote:
>
>>Hi Graham, Doug, Roger, and all,
>>
>>Inkshed may be dead, but it died with an estate -- to the tune of
>>several thousand dollars -- and no will. Whether it's this year or
>>some other year,  a group of members (as defined in the
>>Constitution) at an AGM has to decide what to do with that money  -
>>even if they decide to dissolve Inkshed forever. It may seem like
>>"protocol" but really it's the law.
>>
>>Jane.
>>________________________________________
>>From: casll-l: Canadian Association for the Study of Language
>>and        Learning (Inkshed) [[log in to unmask]] On
>>Behalf Of Graham Smart [[log in to unmask]]
>>Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2011 12:29 AM
>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>Subject: Re: Inkshed conference this year
>>
>>Doug makes some very good points, I think. However, it seems to me
>>that at present the old Inkshed has pretty much expired, as in 'dead
>>in the water'.  So why would we need to worry about whether it's a
>>'society' or not or whether it has to or doesn't have to hold an
>>AGM.  It seems to me that we're dancing around a grave, worrying
>>about protocol.  Seems kind of bizarre to me.
>>
>>Why not simply let go of the old Inkshed and let whatever group of
>>people who identify themselves as 'friends of Inkshed' by meeting
>>for a day after CASDW to support each other's work do just that for
>>a year or two?  Then if the interest and commitment is there, we
>>could create a new organization called New Inkshed or something like
>>that.
>>
>>Inkshed was a great institution that served vital purposes in the
>>early days of Writing Studies in Canada, and it had a pretty good
>>run. In my view, though, at this point it's become pretty much an
>>historical artifact and not a living reality.
>>
>>My dismay over Purdue's loss today has been compounded this evening
>>by Carleton's loss--they got thumped by Lakehead--in the
>>championship game of the Ontario men's basketball league.  But I
>>can't hide behind this: what I've written today reflects my views on
>>Inkshed quite squarely.
>>
>>Graham
>>
>>
>>Graham
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: Doug Brent <[log in to unmask]>
>>Date: Saturday, March 5, 2011 7:06 pm
>>Subject: Re: Inkshed conference this year
>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>
>>
>>
>>>Hi all,
>>>
>>>I initially thought it was odd to be taking membership money for
>>>what is currently a phantom organization, and wondered whether we
>>>needed any dues at all. But Brock explained that the current rules,
>>>including fee structure, can only be changed by a vote of the
>>>membership (this is part of the regulations governing a society, I
>>>gather). Therefore we have to have some members in order to change
>>>anything, and until we change anything, the only way to become a
>>>member is to pay $40. We can immediately vote to change the dues to
>>>anything we want, including zero, and I guess even vote ourselves a
>>>rebate, but the $40 has to come first in order to do business.
>>>
>>>Of course, given the traditionally consensual nature of the group,
>>>I suppose we need only a handful of paying members to vote that
>>>consensus into being, but the more members we have at the time, the
>>>more authoritative any decisions become.
>>>
>>>On the other hand, I am in pretty close agreement with Graham on
>>>the agenda. Maybe we should have an AGM first, to get the business
>>>of dues and such dealt with, and then go on to the more interesting
>>>business of supporting each other's research. The lofty existential
>>>questions that Graham mentions are sort of interesting to me, but
>>>if we only have one day to work and part of it is taken up with
>>>some tedious but  essential administrative housekeeping, I think
>>>that we need to get down to real business pretty fast.
>>>
>>>Cheers
>>>
>>>Doug
>>>
>>>On 05/03/2011 4:45 PM, Graham Smart wrote:
>>
>>Hi everyone,
>>>
>>>I've arranged for my flight to Fredericton, allowing for an extra
>>>day, May 31, to take part in the null working conference.  I hope
>>>it's a day when the participants can provide one another with
>>>feedback on work-in-progress, work-in-progress of whatever kind.
>>>We did that last year and I found it extremely useful.
>>>
>>>To be honest, spending the day asking ourselves questions such as
>>>'what constitutes research in Writing Studies?' and 'what kind of
>>>relationship should Writing Studies have with 
>>>the field of null/ null' would be, for me, a 
>>>total waste of time.  I have no interest
>>>in these questions, personally, and I certainly don't see people in
>>>the larger field of Writing Studies posing them either.
>>>
>>>While I intend to participate on May 31, I won't be paying $40 to
>>>become a member of null at this point.  I want to know what kind of
>>>organization a resurrected null organization/conference will be
>>>before I consider joining. To me, the idea of having people buy a
>>>membership before there's at least some shared notion of what a new
>>>null would look like is way premature.  I realize I won't be able
>>>to attend the null during the conference, but as you might guess
>>>what what I've said, that's something I can live with.
>>
>>>When I read what I've just written above, I can see that it's
>>>pretty salty in conveying my personal views with little regard for
>>>listserv decorum. I think I would have to attribute this to
>>>watching my beloved Purdue Boilermakers lose to Iowa this afternoon
>>>and blow a chance for a shared Big Ten championship.
>>
>>Graham
>>>
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: Doug Brent
>>><[log in to unmask]><javascript:main.compose('new',[log in to unmask] 
>>>')>
>>>Date: Monday, February 14, 2011 5:39 pm
>>>Subject: Re: Inkshed conference this year
>>>To: 
>>>[log in to unmask]<javascript:main.compose('new',[log in to unmask] 
>>>')>
>>
>>>>Hi Roger,
>>>>
>>>>I intend to be there. It`s too early for me to have formulated
>>>>definite thoughts on what should be on the agenda, but certainly
>>>>an AGM to settle some of the thorny issues should be on it --
>>>>perhaps as the first order of business.. If we put it last, we may
>>>>lose any remote semblance of quorum.
>>>>
>>>>Doug
>>>>
>>>>On 09/02/2011 1:22 PM, Roger Graves wrote:
>>
>>We're in the beginning stages of planning this year's Inkshed
>>meeting in Fredericton, NB on May 31, the day after the CASDW
>>(Canadian Association for the Study of Discourse and Writing) ends,
>>and we'd like to invite Inkshed members, former members, and others
>>interested in issues related to research and teaching writing in
>>Canadian contexts to attend.
>>>
>>>>Registration
>>>>To register, email me at 
>>>>[log in to unmask]<[log in to unmask]" target="_blank">https://webmail.carleton.ca/uwc/webmail/java_script:main.compose('new',[log in to unmask])  
>>>> >. I'll create an email list of those who are interested in
>>>>attending and we'll go from there. Registration is free to
>>>>members; non-members are welcome and whatever fee we ultimately
>>>>charge will only be to cover food costs for lunch and coffee.
>>>
>>>>Program
>>>>The initial plan will be to follow the format 
>>>>of last year's one- day conference. Sixteen 
>>>>people attended, and the program emerged
>>>>from email discussions held amongst those who planned to attend.
>>>>This was a "working conference": the focus was on discussion and
>>>>exchange, with presentations used sparingly and as a way to prompt
>>>>discussion. This year we also have ideas that were proposed at
>>>>last year's meeting:
>>
>>*   > > What counts as research/Scholarship: Session at next
>>conference people presenting the theoretical perspective for looking
>>at this—statement from CASLL, CASDW, and CWCA on “Teaching and
>>Scholarship in Writing Studies”—audiences: inside Writing Studies
>>plus administrators, committees in other disciplines that Writing
>>Studies work in: Intellectually rigorous, 
>>theoretically-based, inter- disciplinary, Canadian context;
>>>EAL/ESL relationship to Writing Studies: a discussion
>>>Another topic exchange/development discussion for research projects
>>>that participants are working on. Last year at least three of the
>>>projects discussed at this meeting were submitted for SSHRC
>>>Standard Research Grants and the PIs found the session useful to
>>>them as they developed their proposals
>>
>>>>These are, of course, only ideas and those who indicate an
>>>>interest in attending this year's conference will ultimately
>>>>decide what we spend our time working on.
>>>
>>>>The CASLL AGM
>>>>Action items identified at the end of last year's meeting included
>>>>the following:
>>
>>*   > > Future of the Inkshed (online discussion began and will
>>culminate in CASLL AGM meeting at this conference)
>>*   Do it again next year in this format (this message starts that
>>process)
>>*   Keep the google group private; put a link on the Inkshed website
>>(did keep it private; no link put up)
>>*   Contact Russ to move it or take it over (we have established a
>>site called inkshed.ca that is independent of a university and
>>copied the files to that site)
>>*   Contact Patricia G-P re. budget (budget account has been
>>transferred to Brock MacDonald; new memberships have been solicited;
>>the Board will be elected at the AGM).
>>
>>>
>>>>We'll schedule the AGM during the day sometime--it will be up to
>>>>the conference participants to decide exactly when. Only members
>>>>will be allowed to attend that session, however.
>>>
>>>>Membership
>>>>To become a member, please send $40 membership dues f($20 for grad
>>>>students) to Brock MacDonald at the address below.  Make your
>>>>check out to CASLL, or in full, the Canadian Association for the
>>>>Study of Language and Learning.
>>>
>>>>W. Brock MacDonald
>>>>Director, Academic Writing Centre
>>>>Woodsworth College, University of Toronto
>>>>119 St. George Street
>>>>Toronto, ON   M5S-1A9
>>>
>>>>I look forward to hearing from you and seeing you in New Brunswick.
>>>
>>>>Roger
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>Roger Graves
>>>>Director, Writing Across the Curriculum
>>>>[log in to unmask]<[log in to unmask]" target="_blank">https://webmail.carleton.ca/uwc/webmail/java_script:main.compose('new',[log in to unmask])  
>>>> >
>>>>MailScanner has detected definite fraud in 
>>>>the website at "www.ualberta.ca ". Do not 
>>>>trust this website: 
>>>>http://www.ualberta.ca/~graves1/<http://www.ualberta.ca/~graves1/ >
>>>>780.492.2169
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>--
>>>
>>>>Dr. Doug Brent
>>>>Social Sciences 312
>>>>University of Calgary
>>>>Department of Communication and Culture
>>>>2500 University Drive N.W.
>>>>Calgary, Alberta, Canada T2N 1N4
>>>>Voice: (403) 220-5458 Fax: (403) 210-8138
>>>>http://www.ucalgary.ca/~dabrent<http://www.ucalgary.ca/~dabrent>
>>
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>>>
>>>-------------------------------
>>>Graham Smart
>>>Associate Professor
>>>Carleton University
>>>School of Linguistics &
>>>   Language Studies
>>>215 Paterson Hall
>>>1125 Colonel By Drive
>>>Ottawa, Ontario
>>>Canada K1S 5B6
>>>------------------------------
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
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>>>
>>>--
>>>Dr. Doug Brent
>>>Social Sciences 312
>>>University of Calgary
>>>Department of Communication and Culture
>>>2500 University Drive N.W.
>>>Calgary, Alberta, Canada T2N 1N4
>>>Voice: (403) 220-5458 Fax: (403) 210-8138
>>>http://www.ucalgary.ca/~dabrent<http://www.ucalgary.ca/~dabrent>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>>-------------------------------
>>Graham Smart
>>Associate Professor
>>Carleton University
>>School of Linguistics &
>>   Language Studies
>>215 Paterson Hall
>>1125 Colonel By Drive
>>Ottawa, Ontario
>>Canada K1S 5B6
>>------------------------------
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Director of Writing Initiatives and
Interim Director, Writing Studies (OIS)
Professor, Department of English and Film Studies
University of Alberta
Edmonton, AB  T6G 2E5

(780) 492-0457 (office)
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