Hi All...Having read all the correspondence about this "program" issue,
(thanks Marcy for bringing this to our attention) and with all due respect,
it doesn't seem to resolve the issue to have the Canadians read (and print
out at their own expense) the program on-line. (We're not talking about a 10
page email message here!). If it's good enough for the Canadians then
everyone can read on-line /print their own programs! So, surely there is
some courier service/mail service that would get us our programs? How many
of us are there anyway? will this bankrupt the CCC organization?
(gee, Anthony's righteous indignation is catching...this is *fun*; and
writing this memo sure beats marking papers!)
On Apr 16, 2:08pm, Marcy Bauman wrote:
> Subject: CCCC Program
> I brought this matter to Cindy Selfe's attention (and I incorrectly
> said that they'd tried to charge Anthony for a program _this_ year,
> when that actually happened _last_ year) after the convention in
> Milwaukee, and she e-mailed Cheryl Cannon-Shaw at NCTE headquarters about
> the problem. Here's what I got from Cindy; this'll give people an idea
> about NCTE's (specious, in my opinion) reasoning about this stuff.
> Marcy Bauman
> Writing Program
> University of Michigan-Dearborn
> 4901 Evergreen Rd.
> Dearborn, MI 48128
> email: [log in to unmask]
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 12:58:59 -0400
> From: Cindy Selfe <[log in to unmask]>
> To: [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask]
> Cc: [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask],
> [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Some Convention Stuff
> Cheryl and Bob--
> Cheryl, many thanks for your note (others, please see below for the history
> on the conversation) about Canadians and copies of the program book. It
> sounds to me as if the incident with Anthony Pare (at least the part about
> charging him $5.00) was more of an isolated situation, and this is a
> relief. But the fact that we can't mail the program book to Canadians due
> to the short length of time between printing and the conference, convinces
> me of the importance of putting the program on-line. And so I'd really
> like to come up with a process that would allow us to get the program
> online in a timely fashion so that all members could access it.
> It is also important, however, to make sure that such a process is
> reasonable and workable from the Headquarter staff's perspective if it is
> to happen smoothly, or, indeed, happen at all! Thus, I'm pleased as can be
> to have Bob involved in this conversation so that he can give us the
> benefit of his experience when he returns from his current road trip.
> So, what do you folks think of the following process to accomplish this
> goal? Cheryl sends Eric and/or Marcy the program online when she sends it
> to the production folks. Eric and/or Marcy posts it online with a big
> disclaimer that says some thing like "This is a preliminary program ONLY.
> It has not been proofed and thus does not represent the final version.
> Please contact Cheryl Cannon Shaw at XXX_XXX_XXXX with any errors that you
> spot in this preliminary program. This program will be updated when the
> final proofing of the program is completed." Then, when we finish proofing
> the program book, we send Eric and/or Marcy an updated copy of the program
> with errors corrected--electronically, of course, to speed things up.
> Eric/Marcy then posts it with a new notice about this being the final
> program at that point, inviting any corrections to be sent to Cheryl (or
> someone else who is appropriate) for the addendum. Meanwhile, in all
> letters to the membership about the conference process, Cheryl/Cindy
> mentions the fact that the program book (or some version of it) is online
> at the website and lists that site's address.
> Does that work at all? Please let me know what you all think.
> > Cindy --
> > The programs are not mailed to Canada due to the length of time
> > available after printing and prior to the convention. I am sorry
> > someone at the registration desk tried to charge Anthony Pare $5,
> > should not have happened. Not that I am trying to shove blame, but
> > may have been a local committee individual who was unaware that the
> > program is not mailed in advance to Canada. I don't believe that
> > there is anything that we can do - the deadline for production is
> > already really tight and next year the convention is two weeks
> > still. You should probably discuss these concerns with Bob.
> > As far as the program book being online, copy for it can be sent
> > Eric when it goes to production - which is approximately the first
> > week in January. Problem is, at this point it has not yet gone
> > through editorial and there may still be errors :[ This is
> > that we'll also need to discuss further (you, myself, Eric).
> > I'll let Bob know your concerns and it may be something that we
> > want to talk about (the program being online, that is). Let me know
> > your thoughts on this.
> > Cheryl
> >______________________________ Reply Separator
> >Subject: Some Convention Stuff
> >Author: [log in to unmask] (Cindy Selfe) at Internet
> >Date: 4/5/96 10:37 AM
> >Here's a request from Marcy Bauman--is there anything we can do to ensure
> >that the Canadian's books get out in the mail and that the program book
> >gets online as early as possible?
> >> Another related issue, which I call "just access." Is there some
> >>way to make sure that the Canadians actually get their program books sent
> >>to them next year? This year they didn't; and to make matters worse, the
> >>program never made it online before the conference. But I'm still
> >>stunned at the idea that they weren't sent through the mail . . . . and
> >>Anthony Pare (who's writing a complaint letter) said that when he tried
> >>to pick one up at the registration desk in Milwaukee, they wanted to
> >>charge him $5.
> >Could you print this out and pass it along to Bob, too?
> > Cynthia L. Selfe
> > Humanities Department
> > Michigan Technological University
> > 1400 Townsend Dr.
> > Houghton, MI 49931
> > Internet: [log in to unmask]
> > Telephone: (906) 487-2447
> > Fax: 906/487-3559
> Cynthia L. Selfe
> Humanities Department
> Michigan Technological University
> 1400 Townsend Dr.
> Houghton, MI 49931
> Internet: [log in to unmask]
> Telephone: (906) 487-2447
> Fax: 906/487-3559
>-- End of excerpt from Marcy Bauman