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MICHAEL-L August 1996

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Re: what time is it?

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Mark Bartelt <[log in to unmask]>

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Fri, 2 Aug 1996 06:08:06 -0400

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>>  If people follow the ntp docs, they should NEVER trust any single
>>  source for reliable time.

Right, but for a long time I've been polling two servers (ntp.astro and
madhaus.utcs).  What I don't understand is the behaviour of the ntpdate
command if two servers are queried, and the times reported differ by a
lot:  It turns out that all of the following ...

	ntpdate 128.100.77.35
	ntpdate 128.100.102.10 128.100.77.35
	ntpdate 128.100.77.35 128.100.102.10

... cause my system's date to be reset to the bogus time from ntp.astro!
Not an average of the two, not the ntp.astro one with a warning about a
large mismatch between the two.  Just the ntp.astro one, as if that were
the correct thing to do.

The ntpdate manpage doesn't provide a lot of help in terms of telling me
what algorithm it uses to pick the "right" time if two servers are used,
and they don't agree.

It does say, though, that

	better performance and greater resistance to insanity on
	the part of any one server will be obtained by providing
	at least three or four servers, if not more.

So this brings up the obvious question:  Besides the seemingly-reliable
madhaus.utcs, and the perhaps-someday-reliable ntp.astro, is there some
third system on campus that it would make sense to add to our lists of
NTP servers to poll?

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