Sorry Dianne, I'm not a skeptic at all.  I don't BELIEVE in "universal
cure-alls" any more than I do in "snake oil!"  I worked in the online industry
for over  7 years.  I had people like you logging onto the Medical BBSes I ran
all the
time, giving almost word-for-word duplicate sales pitches as you're
making....."Just because, out of the goodness of their hearts, <PUL-eeeeeeze!>
they happen to have 'personally' found a product that helps them, or an
alleged relative or friend."   Being in the position I am in on The Micorsoft
Network, I see still MORE of these hucksters every day!   AND I've seen every
imaginable type of pyramid scheme that's come down the pike during this time.

I've heard ALL tfhe excuses that a "universal cure-all" salesperson could ever
dream up to use to sell their products and their pyramid schemes to those who
suffer from the many terrible diseases out there such as WE here on the
Parkinson's List are forced to endure.

You're in BUSINESS TO MAKE MONEY OFF THE CHRONICALLY ILL, and that's the ONLY
reason you're pitching your products here.   You're hawking "universial
cure-alls" here, because you're playing off the desparation of those who are
so afraid and so sick.

I've emailed the list owner to inform her that a "universal cure-all" and
pyramid scheme salesperson is using her list to pitch for sales.  And, if this
were my own system, you'd be out of here so fast your head would spin!

Barbara K. Mallut
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From:   PARKINSN: Parkinson's Disease - Information Exchange Network on behalf
of Dianne
Sent:   Sunday, November 03, 1996 5:16 PM
To:     Multiple recipients of list PARKINSN
Subject:        Re: Depression

I understand your skepticism completely.  I was skeptical too until I saw
these things helping myself, my friends, & relatives.  Believe it or not, my
daughter has Fibromyalgia & yes, it has helped her tremendously.  Also, I
have a close friend w/M.S., two with CFS, & some with Lupus who have gotten
unbelievably great results from this also.  My friend w/PD has found alot of
help with the depression, as have many others.  Just trying to help.  The
company I refer to is New Vision, Int'l, and now that I've seen so many
positive results, I AM an independent distributor for them, because I'm now
a believer; however, I've "furnished" more supplements to people & have sold
many many products at my cost just to help people feel better.   I realize
many people are not open to natural products, so just thought I'd give
information to anyone interested.
  To give you another example of the Una de Gato w/Mexican wild yam and its
results, my mother has hypothyroid and after using this, has had her thyroid
medicine dosage drastically reduced and should be clear off it soon.  Also,
for myself, I have a heart arrthymia problem, for which my cardiologist
prescribed medication, which was doing the job, but the long term known side
effects are kidney & liver damage...Now I'm taking the Vitamin C w/CoQ10 and
have been off my heart meds for 2 months-clean bill of health from my doc.
That's really exciting to me, because I know the side effects of many Rx
drugs can be so devastating, and now I don't have that to face.
  I'm sorry if this all offends anyone, I merely would like to help.  If you
don't wish to order anything from me, that's fine, I just hope you will
check into these items yourselves, as they are proving themselves to be
extremely beneficial to hundreds of thousands of people.  I wish you all
well & continue to learn so much from this forum.  Thanks and may God bless
you all!
Dianne




At 06:09 PM 11/3/96 -0500, you wrote:
>Dianne:
>
>I'm the forum manager of the Chronic Disease & Disorders Forum on The
>Microsoft Network.  Within the past month, we have been absolutely BOMBARDED
>with people posting messages VERY similar to yours in wording and
>product-listing.  THEY ARE -SELLING- THE MEXICAN YAM PRODUCT!
>
>This commercial product has been touted to '"restore" or '"renew" persons
>having fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue syndrome, lupus, MS,Parkinson's and a
>veritable HOST of other illnesses!
>
>Those who SELL this commercial product ALSO try to bring others into their
>salesforce for which THEY are paid a commission or bonus.
>
>I'm not saying that YOU are selling this product, Dianne, however I feel that
>the members of this list SHOULD be advised of it being a typical pyramid
sales
>entity, and that it's being used all over the Internet NOW!!
>
>Barb Mallut
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>From:   PARKINSN: Parkinson's Disease - Information Exchange Network on
behalf
>of Dianne
>Sent:   Sunday, November 03, 1996 3:36 PM
>To:     Multiple recipients of list PARKINSN
>Subject:        Re: Depression
>
>Don't know if you're open to "natural" anti-depressants, but thought I'd
>share this with you:  My friend with PD also suffered with depression, but
>has found a natural product called Una de Gato w/Mexican Wild Yam, which
>she's been on for a couple months now.  Definitely has noticed a big
>difference!  If anyone is interested in info about this, rather than bore
>everyone here & now, just e-mail me direct & I'll get back with you.  Hope
>this helps!
>Dianne
>
>
>
>At 07:22 PM 11/3/96 -0500, you wrote:
>>>I have been suffering with  severe depression lately.  Tears are always
>>>right at the overflowing point and no matter what I do I just can't seem
>>>to shake it off.  I have not been a depressed person until PD.   It was
>>>one of my early symptoms but only recently has it become so severe.  I
>>>am considering asking my neuro to put me on an anti depresant as I
>>>cannot handle this much longer.  I realize everyone is different, but I
>>>would appreciate any comments from anyone who has tried medication for
>>>depression.
>>>
>>>Marty Rose
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>>>
>>>Marty,
>>        I have tried Prozac (flattened my moods too much), Welbutrin( turned
>>my taste buds to bitter all the time), and finally to Zoloft, which seems to
>>work the best( 100 mg. per day). Zoloft reaches the proper blood plasma
>>level in a few days, not weeks as in the case of Prozac.
>>                                                                Peace, John
>>
>>
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