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>With all due respect to the HMO concept (none), I saw an interesting
>cartoon today in a doctor's office. A woman is talking to a man in a
>coffin, telling him she is almost finished getting a written referrel
>from the HMO doctor to allow him to go to a specialist. Is that funny? I
>think not, is it too close to the truth? I say yes. With all the modern
>advancements in medicine, i am afraid that the HMO style of letting
>businessmen administer medical treatment, or I should say administering
>the PREVENTION of medical treatment, is a step back to the dark ages!
>the mindset that the bottom line rules, puts medical treatment on the
>same level as appliance repair. If a dishwasher breaks down after it is a
>few years old, and the repairman is slow in arriving, and parts are hard
>to get, the manufacturer will quickly suggest "buy a new dishwasher, this
>one is hard to fix, obsolete, etc." Great, they can't fix the product and
>now they get to profit from the sale of a new one! With an HMO, using
>that logic "Well the patient is getting old, the disease is hard to
>treat, or cure, so we'll just let him die, and we can save a lot of money
>for our stockholders" I am not anti-business, or against a fair profit
>for providers of medical care, I just don't think it should be a cash cow
>at the expense of the patient or his/her family. In a restaurant the
>person who handles the "unclean" cash, is not suppossed to handle the
>food. I think the medical profesionals should not be involved with the
>the finances of the institution, when they have to deny the best
>treatment to save money. Remember, these are the folks that send a
>mother home in less than 24 hours after giving birth!
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>[OO] LOOKING FOR RADIOS!
>Ken Becker
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>On Fri, 14 Mar 1997, Elizabeth Leslie wrote:
>
>> Thanks to you all for responding on this.
>>
>> Ken, full marks for lateral thinking. But if ever I was faced with a
>> choice that made me emphatically opt for 'improper' medication this is it.
>> I did joke to Ernie recently that 'I need a wife,' but this is not quite
>> what I had in mind! But it did make me chuckle.
>>
>> Beth
>>
>> >Beth, just tell him you demand a sex change operation, so you can get
>> >proper medicationI If he is working for an HMO and trying to save money
>> >by giving you cheaper meds, he'll have to realize the meds will cost his
>> >employers much less than the surgery! (Just kidding!)
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >[OO] LOOKING FOR RADIOS!
>> >Ken Becker
>> >[log in to unmask]
>> >
>> >
>> >On Thu, 13 Mar 1997, Barbara Mallut wrote:
>> >
>> >> Beth... I was appalled to read that you're being WITHHELD l-dopa!
>> >>(Sinemet or
>> >> the equivalent). This seems like an issue of _CONTROL_ to me, rather than
>> >> the practice of a responsible and caring physician.
>> >>
>> >> Since PD is a disease which effects each individual is a somewhat different
>> >> manner from every other individual having the disease, what possible
>> >> difference could I take if you were a male, head of household, working to
>> >> support a wife and kids, and going to lose your job because of the disease
>> >> making dramatic inroads into your life?! The disease IS terrible, and
>> >>you DO
>> >> have it, and you're YOU... This is NOT a gender issue or an occupational
>> >> issue, and your physician MUST be appraised of that!!
>> >>
>> >> If the MD then won't prescribe what IS the drug of choice for most
>> >>people with
>> >> PD then get another doctor! Even an internist or family practitioner ....
>> >> heck, even a PEDIATRICIAN can prescribe you Sinemet!!! (or the equivalent)
>> >>
>> >> This is NOT a "gender-related" disease, its' a HUMAN-related disease. Your
>> >> life IS your life. You'll NEVER be that male your MD has declared you not to
>> >> be. You're going to be YOU for the rest of your life, and your physician
>> >> SHOULD be treating you with the most useful drugs for YOU... the person you
>> >> are, not this fantasy he THINKS should get this valuable drug!
>> >>
>> >> And Beth... don't you DARE trash your research project! WHEN you're on the
>> >> right medication, and possibly also an anti-depressant,, you'll be raring to
>> >> finish that research and to move on with your life.
>> >>
>> >> YOU GO GIRL!!
>> >>
>> >> Sending a buncha love your way....
>> >>
>> >> Barb Mallut
>> >> [log in to unmask]
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ----------
>> >> From: Parkinson's Information Exchange on behalf of Elizabeth Leslie
>> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 1997 3:20 AM
>> >> To: Multiple recipients of list PARKINSN
>> >> Subject: Symmetrel
>> >>
>> >> I'm seeking a bit of guidance on this. I've seen the neuro today. He
>> >> agrees I need treatment. He agrees l-dopa would make me fully functional.
>> >> He sent me away with a script for Symmetrel! He told me it could take me 3
>> >> months to feel any benefit from it. He did agree - a touch reluctantly,
>> >> perhaps even a little sheepishly - that if I were a guy with wife/family to
>> >> support and at risk of losing my job he would not withhold l-dopa. (One
>> >> good thing tho' - I did find out from him how/where to get my Selegiline
>> >> cheaply. That's a relief.)
>> >>
>> >> Guess what folks? I'm not feeling so :) Getting ready to trash my research.
>> >>
>> >> I'd really like to hear from anyone who takes/has taken this med. And any
>> >> other advice you care to fling my way will be welcome. Off-list is fine.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks,
>> >>
>> >> Beth
>> >>
>>BETH,
HOW DARE A DOCTOR THINK THAT IF YOU WERE A MAN ...... FIRE THE DOCTOR!!!
FIND A NEW ONE. YOU DESERVE THE BEST CARE AND IF THE DOCTOR CHOOSES NOT
TO WORK WITH YOU, THEN FIND ONE WHO WILL. YOU ARE A HUMAN BEING. ALSO, DO
NOT GIVE UP YOUR RESEARCH. IT IS GOOD EXCERCISE FOR YOUR MIND.
I HOPE I WAS NOT TOO FORWARD, BUT I DO NOT LIKE PEOPLE BEING TREATED LIKE
THEY ARE NOT AN IMPORTANT PART OF SOCIETY BECAUSE OF ILLNESS, ECT.
NANCY MULLEN ([log in to unmask])
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Week 4 October 1997, Week 3 October 1997, Week 2 October 1997, Week 1 September 1997, Week 5 September 1997, Week 4 September 1997, Week 3 September 1997, Week 2 September 1997, Week 1 August 1997, Week 5 August 1997, Week 4 August 1997, Week 3 August 1997, Week 2 August 1997, Week 1 July 1997, Week 5 July 1997, Week 4 July 1997, Week 3 July 1997, Week 2 July 1997, Week 1 June 1997, Week 5 June 1997, Week 4 June 1997, Week 3 June 1997, Week 2 June 1997, Week 1 May 1997, Week 5 May 1997, Week 4 May 1997, Week 3 May 1997, Week 2 May 1997, Week 1 April 1997, Week 5 April 1997, Week 4 April 1997, Week 3 April 1997, Week 2 April 1997, Week 1 March 1997, Week 5 March 1997, Week 4 March 1997, Week 3 March 1997, Week 2 March 1997, Week 1 February 1997, Week 5 February 1997, Week 4 February 1997, Week 3 February 1997, Week 2 February 1997, Week 1 January 1997, Week 5 January 1997, Week 4 January 1997, Week 3 January 1997, Week 2 January 1997, Week 1 December 1996, Week 5 December 1996, Week 4 December 1996, Week 3 December 1996, Week 2 December 1996, Week 1 November 1996, Week 5 November 1996, Week 4 November 1996, Week 3 November 1996, Week 2 November 1996, Week 1 October 1996, Week 5 October 1996, Week 4 October 1996, Week 3 October 1996, Week 2 October 1996, Week 1 September 1996, Week 5 September 1996, Week 4 September 1996, Week 3 September 1996, Week 2 September 1996, Week 1 August 1996, Week 5 August 1996, Week 4 August 1996, Week 3 August 1996, Week 2 August 1996, Week 1 July 1996, Week 5 July 1996, Week 4 July 1996, Week 3 July 1996, Week 2 July 1996, Week 1 June 1996, Week 5 June 1996, Week 4 June 1996, Week 3 June 1996, Week 2 June 1996, Week 1 May 1996, Week 5 May 1996, Week 4 May 1996, Week 3 May 1996, Week 2 May 1996, Week 1 April 1996, Week 5 April 1996, Week 4 April 1996, Week 3 April 1996, Week 2 April 1996, Week 1 March 1996, Week 5 March 1996, Week 4 March 1996, Week 3 March 1996, Week 2 March 1996, Week 1 February 1996, Week 5 February 1996, Week 4 February 1996, Week 3 February 1996, Week 2 February 1996, Week 1 January 1996, Week 5 January 1996, Week 4 January 1996, Week 3 January 1996, Week 2 January 1996, Week 1 December 1995, Week 5 December 1995, Week 4 December 1995, Week 3 December 1995, Week 2 December 1995, Week 1 November 1995, Week 5 November 1995, Week 4 November 1995, Week 3 November 1995, Week 2 November 1995, Week 1 October 1995, Week 5 October 1995, Week 4 October 1995, Week 3 October 1995, Week 2 October 1995, Week 1 September 1995, Week 5 September 1995, Week 4 September 1995, Week 3 September 1995, Week 2 September 1995, Week 1 August 1995, Week 5 August 1995, Week 4 August 1995, Week 3 August 1995, Week 2 August 1995, Week 1 July 1995, Week 5 July 1995, Week 4 July 1995, Week 3 July 1995, Week 2 July 1995, Week 1 June 1995, Week 5 June 1995, Week 4 June 1995, Week 3 June 1995, Week 2 June 1995, Week 1 May 1995, Week 5 May 1995, Week 4 May 1995, Week 3 May 1995, Week 2 May 1995, Week 1 April 1995, Week 5 April 1995, Week 4 April 1995, Week 3 April 1995, Week 2 April 1995, Week 1 March 1995, Week 5 March 1995, Week 4 March 1995, Week 3 March 1995, Week 2 March 1995, Week 1 February 1995, Week 4 February 1995, Week 3 February 1995, Week 2 February 1995, Week 1 January 1995, Week 5 January 1995, Week 4 January 1995, Week 3 January 1995, Week 2 January 1995, Week 1 December 1994, Week 5 December 1994, Week 4 December 1994, Week 3 December 1994, Week 2 December 1994, Week 1 November 1994, Week 5 November 1994, Week 4 November 1994, Week 3 November 1994, Week 2 November 1994, Week 1 October 1994, Week 5 October 1994, Week 4 October 1994, Week 3 October 1994, Week 2 October 1994, Week 1 September 1994, Week 5 September 1994, Week 4 September 1994, Week 3 September 1994, Week 2 September 1994, Week 1 August 1994, Week 5 August 1994, Week 4 August 1994, Week 3 August 1994, Week 2 August 1994, Week 1 July 1994, Week 5 July 1994, Week 4 July 1994, Week 3 July 1994, Week 2 July 1994, Week 1 June 1994, Week 5 June 1994, Week 4 June 1994, Week 3 June 1994, Week 2 June 1994, Week 1 May 1994, Week 5 May 1994, Week 4 May 1994, Week 3 May 1994, Week 2 May 1994, Week 1 April 1994, Week 5 April 1994, Week 4 April 1994, Week 3 April 1994, Week 2 April 1994, Week 1 March 1994, Week 5 March 1994, Week 4 March 1994, Week 3 March 1994, Week 2 March 1994, Week 1 February 1994, Week 4 February 1994, Week 3 February 1994, Week 2 February 1994, Week 1 February 1994 January 1994 December 1993 November 1993
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