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From: | | Bruce Anderson <[log in to unmask]> |
Reply-To: | | Parkinson's Information Exchange <[log in to unmask]> |
Date: | | Tue, 22 Sep 1998 14:06:52 -0400 |
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Here is George's response to my post the other day about PD related back
pain. It was a much appreciated private post to me and I am taking a chance
he will be POed a me for posting it to the List, but there are many
interlocking issues here that may be of interest to others. My response is
at the bottom.
>From: George J. Lussier <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: OH? SO YOU HAVE TRIED JUST ABOUT EVERY THING?
>
>> DEAR SMART A--,
>> SO YOU HAVE TRIED JUST ABOUT EVERY THING AND NOTHING WORKS.HAVE YOU
>TRIED ROLFING OR FELDENKRAIS OR DEEP TISSUE MASSAGE OR HYDROTHERAPY OR
>WALKING BACKWARDS OR HAS ANY THERAPIST EVER TAPED YOUR BACK SO YOU COULDN'T
>WALK INCORRECTLY OR HAVE YOU EVER CONSIDERED THAT THE SOURCE OF YOUR PAIN
IS
>NOT IN YOUR BACK BUT IN YOUR FEET [REFLEXOLOGY] OR HAVE YOU EVER BEEN TO A
>CHIROPRACTOR OR HAVE YOU TRIED A SIMPLE STRETCHING PROGRAM OR HOW ABOUT A
>SIMPLE STRENGTHENING PROGRAM UNDER THE SUPERVISION OF A PERSONAL TRAINER OR
>OR OR. CHANCES YOU HAVE JUST SCRATCHED THE SURFACE.
>> THERE ARE NO INSTANT CURES FOR CHRONIC BACK PAIN BUT A MULTIPLE-INPUT
>PROGRAM THAT YOU STICK TO LIKE SUPER GLUE MIGHT WELL HELP.EVER THINK ABOUT
>EXCHANGING NOTES WITH SOMEONE ELSE WHO USES AN ACUPUNCTURIST? THAT THE
>PROBLEM MAY NOT BE THE TECHNIQUE BUT THE THERAPIST.[WRITE DOWN A D E T A I
L
>E D LIST OF YOUR SYMPTOMS AND THE POINTS YOUR ACUPUNCTURIST NEEDLES AND
SEND
>TO ME AND I'LL ASK MY ACUPUNCTURIST. WHEN I SAY ALL YOUR SYMPTOMS I MEAN
>THEM ALL, NOT JUST THOSE RELATED TO YOUR BACK.]
>> OH, YA. WELCOMED BACK TO THE LIST. YOU HAVE BEEN MISSED
>> GEORGE
>>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Bruce Anderson <[log in to unmask]>
>To: George J. Lussier <[log in to unmask]>
>Date: Tuesday, September 22, 1998 12:19 PM
>Subject: Re: OH? SO YOU HAVE TRIED JUST ABOUT EVERY THING?
>
>
>>Whew! George it took me all day yesterday to recover from your post. You
>>are, of course, freaking right. I haven't tried nothing yet! In fairness
>to
>>me, though, I had and have no intention of giving up and "living" with the
>>pain for the rest of my life. What I was hoping for was what I got:
ideas
>>of where to go from here. What I didn't expect was the laundry list from
>>you along with the you-dumb-arse-get-on-with-it accompanying words from
you
>>[the caps was a nice touch too, really!]
>>
>>First the acupuncture. You wanted a list of all my Symptoms to show your
>>acupuncturist - all of 'em. They are, in order of importance to me:
>>
>>1.Difficulty Walking - momentary freezes, stumbling, falling [about once a
>>day but I'm good at it - no broken bones], poor sense of balance, walk
>>hunched over [90 degrees feels right, feel like I have giant rubber bands
>>attached to my knees & my chest pulling me over. I can resist this
>>sensation for about 2 steps, 3-4 if I first push myself upright by placing
>>my back against a wall - feels great too], use a cane 100% of the time,
>lean
>>on it a lot, now causing elbow & arm muscle pain.
>>Perhaps the Tasmar I'm going on shortly will help this whole mess
>>
>>janet p. asked how did the posture get this way - Very strange - don't
>know.
>>Just laziness, and at first, with little pain, I didn't notice. Could
have
>>started with too much computer time. Like now - just started to hurt. The
>>whole thing just snuck up on me.
>>
>>2.Pain - back pain about 60-70% of my waking hours. Emanates from my
lower
>>back right along the spin down to the lower butt - no pain in legs, I
think
>>it has to be related to my posture described above. MRI showed mild
>stenosis
>>[HANS!] but neurosurgeon said would not be the cause of pain & no surgery
>>indicated. Had steroid shots to no effect, also.
>>
>>3.Muscle Weakness - in legs, arms & hands. Contributes to # 1 above I am
>>sure. Pain in triceps. Pain in hands makes typing a chore.
>>
>>4. Swollen, discolored shins. The MDS neuro I went to last week said it
>>was NOT med related!
>>He wants to send me to a vascular doctor after I first try 10 min., 3x/
day
>>on the treadmill for 3 weeks.
>>Said it looks to him like too little activity, too much computer!
>>
>>5.Speech - therapy had improved it but I let it go - didn't practice
>because
>>of pain - just started again.
>>
>>6. Fatigue - only thing about that really bothers me is involunatry
closing
>>of my eyes for a couple of seconds at a time, even when I am [trying to]
>>talk to someone.
>>
>>Acupuncture points - a bunch of them right over the lower spine where the
>>pain is, some on the top of my head and one behind each knee. I am having
>>an alternate acupuncturist today so I'll see if there is continuity.
>George,
>>I would like to hear what your person has to say. The place I go to
seems
>>to have all the credentials, but....?
>>
>>As for all the other stuff, I will bring your post to my physical
>therapist,
>>who is excellent and has taken an interest in getting me back as much as
>>possible.
>>
>>THANK YOU, George
>>
>>B. Bruce Anderson (52, 4)
>>Schooley's Mtn., NJ
>>[log in to unmask]
>
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Week 4 October 1997, Week 3 October 1997, Week 2 October 1997, Week 1 September 1997, Week 5 September 1997, Week 4 September 1997, Week 3 September 1997, Week 2 September 1997, Week 1 August 1997, Week 5 August 1997, Week 4 August 1997, Week 3 August 1997, Week 2 August 1997, Week 1 July 1997, Week 5 July 1997, Week 4 July 1997, Week 3 July 1997, Week 2 July 1997, Week 1 June 1997, Week 5 June 1997, Week 4 June 1997, Week 3 June 1997, Week 2 June 1997, Week 1 May 1997, Week 5 May 1997, Week 4 May 1997, Week 3 May 1997, Week 2 May 1997, Week 1 April 1997, Week 5 April 1997, Week 4 April 1997, Week 3 April 1997, Week 2 April 1997, Week 1 March 1997, Week 5 March 1997, Week 4 March 1997, Week 3 March 1997, Week 2 March 1997, Week 1 February 1997, Week 5 February 1997, Week 4 February 1997, Week 3 February 1997, Week 2 February 1997, Week 1 January 1997, Week 5 January 1997, Week 4 January 1997, Week 3 January 1997, Week 2 January 1997, Week 1 December 1996, Week 5 December 1996, Week 4 December 1996, Week 3 December 1996, Week 2 December 1996, Week 1 November 1996, Week 5 November 1996, Week 4 November 1996, Week 3 November 1996, Week 2 November 1996, Week 1 October 1996, Week 5 October 1996, Week 4 October 1996, Week 3 October 1996, Week 2 October 1996, Week 1 September 1996, Week 5 September 1996, Week 4 September 1996, Week 3 September 1996, Week 2 September 1996, Week 1 August 1996, Week 5 August 1996, Week 4 August 1996, Week 3 August 1996, Week 2 August 1996, Week 1 July 1996, Week 5 July 1996, Week 4 July 1996, Week 3 July 1996, Week 2 July 1996, Week 1 June 1996, Week 5 June 1996, Week 4 June 1996, Week 3 June 1996, Week 2 June 1996, Week 1 May 1996, Week 5 May 1996, Week 4 May 1996, Week 3 May 1996, Week 2 May 1996, Week 1 April 1996, Week 5 April 1996, Week 4 April 1996, Week 3 April 1996, Week 2 April 1996, Week 1 March 1996, Week 5 March 1996, Week 4 March 1996, Week 3 March 1996, Week 2 March 1996, Week 1 February 1996, Week 5 February 1996, Week 4 February 1996, Week 3 February 1996, Week 2 February 1996, Week 1 January 1996, Week 5 January 1996, Week 4 January 1996, Week 3 January 1996, Week 2 January 1996, Week 1 December 1995, Week 5 December 1995, Week 4 December 1995, Week 3 December 1995, Week 2 December 1995, Week 1 November 1995, Week 5 November 1995, Week 4 November 1995, Week 3 November 1995, Week 2 November 1995, Week 1 October 1995, Week 5 October 1995, Week 4 October 1995, Week 3 October 1995, Week 2 October 1995, Week 1 September 1995, Week 5 September 1995, Week 4 September 1995, Week 3 September 1995, Week 2 September 1995, Week 1 August 1995, Week 5 August 1995, Week 4 August 1995, Week 3 August 1995, Week 2 August 1995, Week 1 July 1995, Week 5 July 1995, Week 4 July 1995, Week 3 July 1995, Week 2 July 1995, Week 1 June 1995, Week 5 June 1995, Week 4 June 1995, Week 3 June 1995, Week 2 June 1995, Week 1 May 1995, Week 5 May 1995, Week 4 May 1995, Week 3 May 1995, Week 2 May 1995, Week 1 April 1995, Week 5 April 1995, Week 4 April 1995, Week 3 April 1995, Week 2 April 1995, Week 1 March 1995, Week 5 March 1995, Week 4 March 1995, Week 3 March 1995, Week 2 March 1995, Week 1 February 1995, Week 4 February 1995, Week 3 February 1995, Week 2 February 1995, Week 1 January 1995, Week 5 January 1995, Week 4 January 1995, Week 3 January 1995, Week 2 January 1995, Week 1 December 1994, Week 5 December 1994, Week 4 December 1994, Week 3 December 1994, Week 2 December 1994, Week 1 November 1994, Week 5 November 1994, Week 4 November 1994, Week 3 November 1994, Week 2 November 1994, Week 1 October 1994, Week 5 October 1994, Week 4 October 1994, Week 3 October 1994, Week 2 October 1994, Week 1 September 1994, Week 5 September 1994, Week 4 September 1994, Week 3 September 1994, Week 2 September 1994, Week 1 August 1994, Week 5 August 1994, Week 4 August 1994, Week 3 August 1994, Week 2 August 1994, Week 1 July 1994, Week 5 July 1994, Week 4 July 1994, Week 3 July 1994, Week 2 July 1994, Week 1 June 1994, Week 5 June 1994, Week 4 June 1994, Week 3 June 1994, Week 2 June 1994, Week 1 May 1994, Week 5 May 1994, Week 4 May 1994, Week 3 May 1994, Week 2 May 1994, Week 1 April 1994, Week 5 April 1994, Week 4 April 1994, Week 3 April 1994, Week 2 April 1994, Week 1 March 1994, Week 5 March 1994, Week 4 March 1994, Week 3 March 1994, Week 2 March 1994, Week 1 February 1994, Week 4 February 1994, Week 3 February 1994, Week 2 February 1994, Week 1 February 1994 January 1994 December 1993 November 1993
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