Wendy (Tebay),  I am having trouble following some of your arguments and
would appreciate clarification.  As I understand it the core of your
argument is found in the words "I truly believe that if enough of us begin
to believe in the possibility, we'll eventually reach some critical mass
where belief actually becomes reality, and then things will really begin
happening".

To start with I'm not sure to which possibility you refer. Are you speaking
of "healing" or the "cure".   In previous posts you have used the term
"healing" to mean a spontaneous cure brought about by the intervention of a
higher power in response to the belief of the person cured.  I assume that
is the meaning you are still assigning when you
say "As far as healings," at the beginning of the extract below.  However,
within a few paragraphs you appear to be  referring to a belief that we can
be cured by science as the possibility we have to believe in.  To confuse me
even more you appear to be saying that they are one and the same thing.
Which they aren't.  I don't think I 've yet met a PWP who believes that PD
is a "fatal and relentlessly progressive" disease for which there will NEVER
be a cure but I know a great many who have no expectation of a spontaneous
healing.  I certainly have no problem with believing that the cure will be
found even as I doubt that I am likely to be singled out for a physical
healing.


I am also having trouble with understanding how your example from Megatrends
applies.  You wrote:

"Anyway, ya'll get the idea.  Back then, no one could conceptualize the
Internet, computers, etc., and the effect they'd have on our lives.  But the
seeds of the ideas had been planted, which then led to other people
exploring the ideas further, and so on and so on, which all eventually led
to their real invention and development"

This is all people getting ideas and developing them and then others getting
more ideas and developing them too - human engineering built on human
ingenuity.  Nowhere is there any suggestion that, once enough people
believed that computers etc could exist, a "higher power"  caused them to
suddenly appear.

Finally, if we were not PWP but PWLLBTK (People without left legs below the
knee) would we be arguing that if enough of us believed hard enough, we
would wake up one morning and our legs would be whole again.

My belief and experience is that the miracle of healing does occur but it
doesn't involve setting aside the laws of the universe.  It occurs where all
miracles occur, in our hearts and minds, and it enables us to say, only half
in jest "There is nothing wrong with me that a cure for Parkinson's won't
fix".

Wendy - that is my reality. It took a lot of learning and even though my
grasp of it sometimes weakens I seriously doubt you will re-shape it.  I can
only wonder why you feel you should.

Dennis.

Wendy wrote:

>As far as healings, I guess in a (not-so?) subtle way, I'm trying to shape
>both mine and everyone else's reality here by through repeated exposure to
>the idea of pd healings.  Like psychologists say about learning, you don't
>really absorb new info completely until you've seen/heard it at least seven
>times.  I think that if we all hear about it enough, even tho' we don't
>believe it at first,, with repeated exposure, it kinda becomes a
>"background" reality, which hopefully eventually moves to the foreground,
>and then out of our imaginations, out into the  "real" world.  I truly
>believe that if enough of us begin to believe in the possibility, we'll
>eventually reach some critical mass where belief actually becomes reality,
>and then things will really begin happening.
>
>It's kinda like years ago, when the book Megatrends was written.  In it the
>author brought up the concepts (possibilities) which outlined where he saw
>society and technology going.  (concepts which are today represented by the
>Internet, and the ability to do commerce via it;  what they call "smart"
>homes, where a computer basically runs everything electrical;  the
>environmental movement, which is changing the way business is done; etc.)
I
>don't know if all of these examples are definitely out of that book, I
>haven't actually read it myself, altho' I've heard other people's
summaries.
>Anyway, ya'll get the idea.  Back then, no one could conceptualise the
>Internet, computers, etc., and the effect they'd have on our lives.  But
the
>seeds of the ideas had been planted, which then led to other people
>exploring the ideas further, and so on and so on, which all eventually led
>to their real invention and development.   That's where I can see this
>healing stuff going if we don't let the idea die.
>
>Ya know, if we're gonna put so much time and effort into the Udall Bill and
>securing funding, we've got to do it with the belief that a cure is
>imminent, but not get depressed when it doesn't come immediately.  I think
>politicians would respond even more positively if we came at them from a
>position of belief.  If we don't really believe in a cure (at least in our
>lifetimes), then we push that date out further.   By collectively believing
>in this cure, we then present ourselves from a place of greater power.  You
>have to be ready to be healed, as well, whenever that times comes.
>Irregardless of the drugs and surgeries that are developed with this money,
>they can't heal you if you still cling to the idea that this disease is
>fatal and relentlessly progressive.
>
>Anyway Wendy, I'm not criticizing you in at all.  Nor am I referring to
>"you" necessarily when I say "you".  It's a more general term.  I just get
>to rambling sometimes.
>
>Hope that you and your mom, and all of us, can later become subscribers to
>the as yet to be formed email list called "PD survivors."  I'll sign up!
>
>Wendy Tebay
>