Well,Charlotte, I certaibly respect your opinion and
your right to voice it, but please send any further
correspondence re: the List TO the List, and not to me
personally. Because that might be construed as a
personal attack.
I am not angry with you, and am not sure what I
personally have done to make you so angry with me.I
feel that the place for List issues is ON the List.
                  Carole H.

--- [log in to unmask] wrote:
> ...Would that mean that the "humor" part of the
> > List then would be able to post unpleasant E-mail
> to
> > the other part of the List, complaining about how
> > serious they are? Oh. But we don't do that, do
> we?I,
> > for one, am getting tired of being upset every
> time
> > this issue rears its ugly head.      Carole Hercun
> ....
> Have you considered that out of 1800 members, that
> only a
> handful of people, a "Click" really, dominate the
> list
> with a lot of stuff that most of the 1800 folks have
>
> not only no interest in, but are completely sick of?
>  I
> feel that we've been beaten back and can't get what
> we
> need from the list anymore.  Most of us suffer in
> silence, while Pig talk and other kinds of chat have
>
> taken over. This list is not behaving as a family;
> it's
> behaving like high school kids where there is a
> dominant
> "in crowd" who are conspicuous, loud, and often very
>
> inconsiderate.  Then when some silent sufferers come
>
> forward to complain, we have to hear their shrill
> griping about how it's a democracy, and the list is
> for
> everybody, and so on.  If it is for everyone, then
> we
> have a right to offer our feelings when it has gone
> too.
> far in one direction, and has overwhelmed the rest
> of
> us--the list has lost it's balance--get it?!!!
>
> Charlotte Mancuso
> > Well, Camilla, since I like dogs, as well as
> pigs,I
> > would certainly be willing to help with the "dog
> > work." Would that mean that the "humor" part of
> the
> > List then would be able to post unpleasant E-mail
> to
> > the other part of the List, complaining about how
> > serious they are? Oh. But we don't do that, do
> we?I,
> > for one, am getting tired of being upset every
> time
> > this issue rears its ugly head.      Carole Hercun
> >
> > --- Camilla Flintermann <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
> > > Friends--I can't count the number of times in
> the
> > > nearly 4 years I've been
> > > on this list that the idea of splitting the list
> has
> > > been suggested and
> > > roundly rejected........but since it has been
> > > broached:
> > >
> > > Personally, I have no objection to a "PD humor
> > > list", but have you
> > > considered who is going to "own"  it, as Barb P.
> > > owns PIEnet and Jeff and I
> > > own CARE?  What listserv will house it?   Who
> will
> > > manage the day-to-day
> > > problems that arise about people's subs,etc.?
> And
> > > how many folks who read
> > > and chuckle but never post a joke will be too
> busy
> > > to add another list to
> > > their agenda?   While David Boots (former list
> > > member who himself
> > > contributed a lot of humor)  wrote of "4 or 5"
> pig
> > > posters, I could count a
> > > lot more people --surely a dozen or more--who
> have
> > > occasionally contributed
> > > their insights and wit to that famous
> (INfamous?)
> > > saga or shared a ":funny"
> > > that made them chuckle.
> > > So, if you want to vote on a split, I have no
> > > objection, so long as
> > > somebody can answer the questions I've raised,
> or
> > > volunteers to do the "dog
> > > work" involved--can''t ask Barb P. to do it,
> that's
> > > for sure, and CARE is
> > > job enough for me.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >         Camilla Flintermann
> > >             Oxford,OH
> > >
> > >
> > >
> http://www.newcountry.nu/pd/members/camilla/one.htm
> > > <[log in to unmask]>
> > >
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> > >                                 we resolve to
> > > love...
> > >
> > > we  unite to serve.
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> > >
> >
> >
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