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Jay, Bill, and group, I am not familiar with the use of Lithium for that purpose although some off label uses for the drug are in the literature. Bipolar Disease certainly is helped by Li however and that is my primary experience with it. It is a rather potent medication with some side effects. Usually they are relatively benign and are not troublesome. Also especially in the beginning of use the regular determination of blood levels is necessary. I hope this is helpful to you. Charlie ----- Original Message ----- From: William Harshaw <[log in to unmask]> To: Jay Orr <[log in to unmask]>; <jborr@SPRYNET> Cc: Parkinson's Information Exchange <[log in to unmask]>; Charles T. Meyer, M.D. <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2000 10:07 PM Subject: Re: Re: cramping muscles and curling toes > To all with cramped toes > > Lithium carbonate is a prescription drug commonly prescribed for bipolar > depression. It can be a tricky med if the lithium level gets too high. > I've cc'd Charlie Meyer, he's likely familiar with it from a psychiatric > viewpoint. > > Cheers, > > Bill > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jay Orr" <[log in to unmask]> > To: <[log in to unmask]> > Sent: Thursday, Janua ry 20, 2000 5:07 PM > Subject: Re: cramping muscles and curling toes > > > > Where does one get lithium carbonate? That sounds like a dream come true. > > Anne > > [log in to unmask] > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: William Harshaw <[log in to unmask]> > > To: <[log in to unmask]> > > Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2000 12:57 PM > > Subject: Re: cramping muscles and curling toes > > > > > > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > > > > > ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01BF634D.A633AFA0 > > > Content-Type: text/plain; > > > charset="iso-8859-1" > > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > > > > mARY, > > > > > > ON THE MATTER OF CURLING TOES, Tony LANG, MY NEUROLOGIST PRESCRIBED = > > > LITHIUM CARBONATE. iT WORKED LIKE A CHARM. NO MORE CURLING TOES! > > > > > > cHEERS, > > > > > > BILL > > > ----- Original Message -----=20 > > > From: Mary Whitelaw=20 > > > To: [log in to unmask] > > > Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2000 10:58 AM > > > Subject: Re: cramping muscles and curling toes > > > > > > > > > Hi, my name is Mary and I just signed up yesterday, so I am not quite > = > > > sure how this works: > > > > > > I have had PD for over 20 years and I am 53 years old now. Curling = > > > toes is one of the most painful experiences I have encountered. However > = > > > I have learned a few tricks that help: > > > > > > 1. Take Vitamine E > > > > > > 2. Do muscle stretching exercises every day. For calf muscles, sit = > > > in a chair and raise both legs until knees are flat. Push out with = > > > your heels and pull your toes back towards you. Hold it (count to 10) = > > > and you should feel a nice pull (stretch) in your calf muscles. Release > = > > > and repeat about 10 times. > > > > > > 3. Standing up, holding the back of sturdy chair if necessary, bare = > > > or sock feet: raise up on your toes, lower and rock back on your heels. > = > > > Repeat this about 10 times. > > > > > > 4. When your toes DO curl try massaging calf muscles, raise you legs > = > > > up and focus on releasing the toes or try to place your feet on the wall > = > > > or piece of furniture and push against it with your toes. > > > > > > I have found the above helpful. I still have toe curls but they are = > > > few and further between and not nearly so severe. > > > > > > Hope this helps > > > Mary > > > > > > ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01BF634D.A633AFA0 > > > Content-Type: text/html; > > > charset="iso-8859-1" > > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > > > > <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> > > > <HTML><HEAD> > > > <META content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-1" = > > > http-equiv=3DContent-Type> > > > <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.00.2919.6307" name=3DGENERATOR> > > > <STYLE></STYLE> > > > </HEAD> > > > <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> > > > <DIV><FONT size=3D2>mARY,</FONT></DIV> > > > <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> > > > <DIV><FONT size=3D2>ON THE MATTER OF CURLING TOES, Tony LANG, MY = > > > NEUROLOGIST=20 > > > PRESCRIBED LITHIUM CARBONATE. iT WORKED LIKE A CHARM. NO = > > > MORE=20 > > > CURLING TOES!</FONT></DIV> > > > <DIV> </DIV> > > > <DIV><FONT size=3D2>cHEERS,</FONT></DIV> > > > <DIV> </DIV> > > > <DIV><FONT size=3D2>BILL</FONT></DIV> > > > <BLOCKQUOTE=20 > > > style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: > = > > > 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px"> > > > <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> > > > <DIV=20 > > > style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = > > > black"><B>From:</B>=20 > > > <A href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]" = > > > [log in to unmask]>Mary=20 > > > Whitelaw</A> </DIV> > > > <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20 > > > href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]"=20 > > > = > > > [log in to unmask]>[log in to unmask]</A> > = > > > </DIV> > > > <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, January 20, = > > > 2000 10:58=20 > > > AM</DIV> > > > <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: cramping muscles = > > > and curling=20 > > > toes</DIV> > > > <DIV><BR></DIV> > > > <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Hi, my name is Mary and I just signed up = > > > yesterday, so I am=20 > > > not quite sure how this works:</FONT></DIV> > > > <DIV> </DIV> > > > <DIV><FONT size=3D2>I have had PD for over 20 years and I am 53 years > = > > > old=20 > > > now. Curling toes is one of the most painful experiences I > have=20 > > > encountered. However I have learned a few tricks that = > > > help:</FONT></DIV> > > > <DIV> </DIV> > > > <DIV><FONT size=3D2>1. Take Vitamine E</FONT></DIV> > > > <DIV> </DIV> > > > <DIV><FONT size=3D2>2. Do muscle stretching exercises every = > > > day. For=20 > > > calf muscles, sit in a chair and raise both legs until knees are = > > > flat. =20 > > > Push out with your heels and pull your toes back > towards=20 > > > you. Hold it (count to 10) and you should feel a nice pull = > > > (stretch) in=20 > > > your calf muscles. Release and repeat about 10 = > > > times.</FONT></DIV> > > > <DIV> </DIV> > > > <DIV><FONT size=3D2>3. Standing up, holding the back of sturdy = > > > chair if=20 > > > necessary, bare or sock feet: raise up on your toes, lower and = > > > rock back=20 > > > on your heels. Repeat this about 10 times.</FONT></DIV> > > > <DIV> </DIV> > > > <DIV><FONT size=3D2>4. When your toes DO curl try massaging calf > = > > > > > > muscles, raise you legs up and focus on releasing the toes or = > > > try to=20 > > > place your feet on the wall or piece of furniture and push against it > = > > > with=20 > > > your toes.</FONT></DIV> > > > <DIV> </DIV> > > > <DIV><FONT size=3D2>I have found the above helpful. I still have > = > > > toe curls=20 > > > but they are few and further between and not nearly so = > > > severe.</FONT></DIV> > > > <DIV> </DIV> > > > <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Hope this helps</FONT></DIV> > > > <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Mary</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> > > > > > > ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01BF634D.A633AFA0-- > > >