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Ves....

Per our discussion earlier this evening, I read further in "Worst
Pills, Best Pills," and one thing that really struck me was the
comment that (paraphrasing) "one pill can cause negative side
effects, and the MD prescribes another pill with it's OWN set of
negative side effects, to correct the side effects of the first
pill.  When the 2nd pill adds further negative side effects to the
existing ones even MORE   negative side effects might show up!
The patient is then diagnosed as being physchotic and slapped into
a psyche ward and given MORE negative meds to keep him quiet!"

And THAT seems to be what's happening to your brother!

Pay heed to what our respected MD, Doctor Meyer tells ya 'cause
he's earned the respect of all our List-brethren for his
thoughtful, right-on-the -button medical related advice (and even
for things non-medical!)

We're all rooting for Wayne and you, Ves!

Barb Mallut
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-----Original Message-----
From: ves <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Sunday, January 23, 2000 8:04 PM
Subject: Re: improper meds?


>Wayne Shirley, age 65, weitht 145 lbs (lost 40 pounds in one
year)
>REcent dosage:
>sinemet - one CR 50.200 three times daily ( 9 am, 1 pm and 5 pm)
>Haldol:  Prescribed as needed for agitation:  2 mg by injection
every four
>hours.  Given three injections in two weeks (jan 8th, 15th, and
17th)
>Risperdal:  1 mg/dose at 8 am and 5 pm.  This medication was
stopped on Jan
>15th since he was becoming extremely sleepy.  Then resumed on the
21st at 0.5
>mg/dose at 9 am and 5 pm
>Ativan: 1 mg injection every 6 hours as needed or 1 mg by mouth
as needed.
>Three injections were issued.  On the 21st there was one
injection.  And two
>injections were administered on the 22nd.
>He fell twice on the 21st and twice more on the 22nd.  He is now
in the
>hospital and the doctor is trying to get him committed to an
asylum or another
>geriatric facility.
>He is supsected of also having alzheimers.  I am in the process
of getting his
>affairs straight so he can qualify for medicaid and then get him
with me in
>North Carolina.  It appears as if I am running out of time.
>Thanks, CHarles.
>
>"Charles T. Meyer, M.D." wrote:
>
>> Ves,
>>
>> Since your brother has been diagnosed with PD has he been
prescribed any
>> Haldol?  Please be more specific about what , when and how much
he took of
>> the different medications.  I think that if you can provide us
that
>> information there are a number of us on the list  that would
venture an
>> opinion on whether his medication regimen has been or is being
less than
>> optimally managed (or frankly mismanaged).
>>
>> Charlie
>>
>> ---- Original Message -----
>> From: ves <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2000 9:13 PM
>> Subject: improper meds?
>>
>> > My brother has parkinsons and I think has been
>> > mis-medicated(?).
>> > Reasons for this suspicion:
>> > 1.  Has been on sinement for about 7 years.
>> > 2.  Has been being previously medicated with Haldol.
>> > 3.  More recently medicated with Risperdal and Ativan.
>> > I understand sinemet can have delayed symptoms as well as a
>> > reduced affect with prolonged use.
>> > I also understand from the parkinsons drug database that the
>> > meds in items 2 and 3 can have some negative effects with
>> > parkinsons patients.
>> > He is in the hospital in Electra Texas and the doctor really
>> > does not want to take into account these pieces of
>> > information I have told her of.  Any PK patients around
>> > wichita falls or vernon texas who might refer me to some
>> > kind of second opinion that is an informed second opinion on
>> > meds for PK patients?
>> >
>> > ves shirley
>> > 336-342-3641
>> > I will accept collect calls.
>> > I really need some quick feedback.