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Does anyone have any evidence that lecturing to students about writing
produces significant development of their writing abilities?  Or, in the
case of the Brock courses, that this development significantly exceeds what
they would have learned from just seminars, the writing practice, and
individual feedback?  Last I checked, which was a long time ago, I don't
believe there was such evidence (just as there is lots of evidence that,
whatever "common sense" may suggest, grammar drills do not significantly
reduce "errors" in actual writing).  When I teach writing courses, I do
sometimes "lecture," i.e., talk for 15 minutes straight explaining
something or other, but I believe my successes turn on running the course
as a workshop and that the students learn most from writing and getting
various kinds of feedback (hence the workshop approach).

        One can always argue that something/anything is better than nothing.
Given the budgetary bias in favour of large and larger classes, I would
want to see positive evidence that lecturing can significantly improve
actual writing.

Rick



At 07:33 PM 2/14/2000 -0500, you wrote:
>Colleagues,
>
>What is your assessment of a writing programme offering not one but two
>terms of lecture-hall-based, introductory-level, general writing instruction?
>
>Here's the situation:  Two years ago, Brock University created two separate
>one-term courses -- Introduction to Writing and Academic Writing -- which
>students are offered in succession.  The English department here is very
>interested in keeping grammar prominent in the first course; the first is a
>prerequisite for the second.  Neither are compulsory for Brock students,
>though that will change for students in at least one department.
>
>On the positive side, both courses offer students two hours of small
>seminars per week, lead by experienced TAs who have advanced degrees in
>literature.  On the not-so-positive side, there is a one-hour lecture per
>week to an audience that, next year, may be as high as 200.  Is such a
>situation reasonably within the range of acceptable Canadian practices?
>
>I know this list has had a go both at the lecture-hall teaching of writing
>and at the conflation of writing with grammar.  However, I also know there
>are some one-term lecture-hall courses in Canada that do not have the
>benefit of two seminar-hours per week with mature, experienced TAs.  And,
>of course, two terms of writing is presumably better than one.
>
>The English department here is facing program review in 2000-2001, and
>writing is a new undertaking at Brock.  How would you evaluate this?  I
>would be pleased to pass on your responses to our department chair.
>All the best,
>John
>
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>John B. Killoran, PhD
>Assistant Professor
>Dept. of English Language and Literature
>Brock University
>St. Catharines, Ontario
>L2S 3A1   Canada
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