This surprises me. It's very interesting. I would think, though, that apes would be too rare and precious, having their own wards even, to skin or that such skins would make it into the inventory of a guild in a rural township. What do we know about apes in England? -----Original Message----- From: Tiner, Elza [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2000 12:29 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: "Apis skinns"? Also, note that the royal households of Richard II, Elizabeth I, and James I maintained "apewards," so ape skins would very likely have been available in the realm. From the REED volumes: Richard II Apeward in Cambridge 1382-3 Elizabeth I Apeward in Coventry 1577-78 James I Apeward in York 1607 Elza C. Tiner Professor of English School of Humanities and Social Sciences Lynchburg College