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I don't remember where this idea came from, but I thought that the apis
skinnes were the lower body covering of the angels.  They would have wings
above and a shaggy lower body (instead of feathers).  Check the
iconography.

                                Larry Clopper

On Tue, 15 Feb 2000, Tiner, Elza wrote:

> However, at some point the apes would die and their skins might be available
> then, no?
>
> Elza C. Tiner
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Baragona, Alan [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2000 1:25 PM
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> Subject: Re: "Apis skinns"?
>
>
> This surprises me.  It's very interesting.  I would think, though, that apes
> would be too rare and precious, having their own wards even, to skin or that
> such skins would make it into the inventory of a guild in a rural township.
> What do we know about apes in England?
>
>                 -----Original Message-----
>                 From:   Tiner, Elza [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>                 Sent:   Tuesday, February 15, 2000 12:29 PM
>                 To:     [log in to unmask]
>                 Subject:        Re: "Apis skinns"?
>
>                 Also, note that the royal households of Richard II,
> Elizabeth I,
> and James I
>                 maintained "apewards," so ape skins would very likely have
> been
> available in
>                 the realm. From the REED volumes:
>
>                 Richard II
>                 Apeward in Cambridge  1382-3
>
>                 Elizabeth I
>                 Apeward in Coventry  1577-78
>
>                 James I
>                 Apeward in York  1607
>
>                 Elza C. Tiner
>
>                 Professor of English
>                 School of Humanities and Social Sciences
>                 Lynchburg College
>