I'll remark on this one more time: If you look at the text and then look at the guild record of expenditure, it seems to me straight-forward: We have as principal characters: A & E, God the Father, Serpent, Angel, and Dolor and Misery. We are told in the 1565 acct that there are 2 garments (cotes and HOSE) for Eve, coat and HOSE for Adam and a coat and HOSE and a tail for the serpent. The costumes for those figures, therefore, are taken care of. When we come to the entry "an Angelles Cote & over hoses of apis Skynns," consequently, we must assume those designate the undergarments of the angel. There is a serpent in this play; there are no devils: QED the "apis Skynns," whatever they may be materially, are part of the Angel's costume. There is only one Angel in the extant text; therefore, this expenditure is for his costume. Larry On Sat, 19 Feb 2000, Alan Baragona wrote: > Dear REED-ers > > I wrote David Bevington and asked him what he thought about "apis skinns," > since it was quoted in his textbook Here is his answer, and my reply to > him, which tries to summarize where the question stands now. > > Alan B. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Alan Baragona <[log in to unmask]> > To: David Bevington <[log in to unmask]> > Cc: Alan Baragona <[log in to unmask]> > Date: Saturday, February 19, 2000 4:34 PM > Subject: Re: "Apis skinns" > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: David Bevington <[log in to unmask]> > >To: Baragona, Alan <[log in to unmask]> > >Date: Saturday, February 19, 2000 11:47 AM > >Subject: Re: "Apis skinns" > > > >>Dear Alan Baragona, Nice to hear from you. I've always assumed that 'apis > >>skinns' are ape skins, here serving as hose or leg coverings. The problem > >>is that real ape skins would be probitively expensive and hard to get in > >>early modern England, so that I have also assumed that they weren't real > >>ape skins but animal skins giving the effect of ape skins. Why one would > >>want that effect I am not sure. But I think they're just tights, of the > >>sort that were presumably used for Eve and Adam. Do you think? It's > clearly > >>not an easy problem, and I'm relieved to hear that it is so for REED also. > >>best, David B > > > >Dear Prof. Bevington: > > > >Thanks for your quick response to my question! > > > >My first instinct was to assume that these were "hairy" hose (either real > >fur or some rough cloth, but likely not really ape pelts) worn by the > devil, > >paired in the inventory with the angel's robe. I consulted with Laura > >Hodges, who has published extensively on 14th century dress, especially in > >Chaucer. She thought it might be "friese," a cloth that looks hairy, and > >would be costuming for either the devil or Adam and Eve. In conversation > >with her and then in the exchanges with members of REED-L, we've found > >several possibilites, all with their own logic. > > > >1. The "skins" may not be hairy, but may look leathery, like the actual > skin > >of apes, and therefore be the supple tawed leather costume used to suggest > >nakedness for Adam and Eve. Problem: they're only hose, and "apes skins" > >seems naturally to suggest furriness. > > > >2. The "skins" may look hairy and be a costume for the devil. Problem: it > >seems odd to pair the devil's costume with the angel's in the inventory > when > >other pairings seem not to indicate any contrast. > > > >3. The "skins" may be furry hose for an angel's costume. Problem: there's > >disagreement over whether hairy nether parts can possibly be part of angel > >iconography; some REED members say maybe, others say definitely not. > > > >4. The "skins" may be costumes for Adam and Eve, symbolizing not nakedness > >but bestiality (either before or after the Expulsion). Problem: the > >inventory lists other costumes for A&E, so why would the "skins" be paired > >with the angel's robe instead of their other costumes? > > > >5. The "skins" may be costumes for Adam and Eve, not symbols but the actual > >clothing they would don after the expulsion, which would look like animal > >pelts. Same problem as #4. > > > >Personally, I think numbers 2 and 5 are the likeliest, though I was the one > >who suggested #1 in the first place. But no matter what they are, I find > it > >curious that "apis skinns" should be a kind of technical term and that it > >doesn't show up anywhere else. This could be a hapax as frustrating as > >"thyle." > > > >Thank you again for your thoughts on the matter. If anyone solves this, > >I'll let you know. > > > >Alan B. > > > > > > > > >