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What do the list members think of the excitotoxins? These are MSG (a hidden ingredient in many foods & beverages), hydrolyzed vegetable protein, aspartame, caffeine, amphetamines (used to treat ADHD), a high protein diet (protein contains glutamate and aspartate, the ingredients of MSG and aspartame; are highest in red meats and egg yolks) being a trigger to neurodegenerative diseases in people with a predisposition to them?. *Re: MSG and aspartame (NutraSweet); glutamate and aspartate are neurotransmitters in the brain, however in high concentrations they kill the brain cells by opening the calcium channels and allowing too much calcium into the cells* We get "to be" through our genes, but, our genes do not control the mitochondria, which is/are the power source in each and every cell, forming a symbiotic relationship; mitochondria have their own set of genes. Could there be a mitochondrial DNA genetic predisposition to PD and could excitotoxins found in the food/water of the Pacific NW trigger that would account for this higher incidence in that area? What about people who are glucose intolerant (they often don't know it), who develop hypoglycemia (low blood sugar) after ingesting foods high in simple sugars; or the long term hypoglycemic? Hypoglycemia is supposed to harm the mitochondria by denying them the energy they need to function. Low blood sugar damage (is the same as excitotoxins) in people with a predisposition to one of the neurodegenerative diseases, causing either part I, II, III, or IV in the energy production sequence of the mitochondria to fail; therefore, one of the neurodegenerative diseases develops as a result of which ever part (I-IV) has failed. PD is supposed to be a failure in part I. What has everyone else heard? Also I've heard that PD, MS and Alzheimer's are different manifestations of the *same thing*. I'll list some of the code words for MSG below Audrey's inquiry. We kept telling the doctors it was soy triggering my daughters allergy attacks in spite of negative allergy tests; turned out it was MSG. Behold, there it was hidden in the soy products. ----- Original Message ----- From: Audrey Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2000 6:58 AM Subject: re the virus theory and or childhood respiratory ailments I have been reading the questions and comments surrounding theories about connections to one or the other of these reasons for later onset of pd. I also have read...some think there is a correlation between virus and MS...Leavenworth, Wa(shington)...had at least 10 cases of MS diagnosed over years in different families . The U of Washington does research on this illness and sent a team out to investigate the coincidence. Nothing in the soil or water or air could be found to have been an agent. The only things in common they all had was this and living there at the same time. Now I expect that many of you know that Puget Sound area in (Washington) and possibly the area in BC too, have the most incidences of ms of any place in the world. Across the northern tiers of states there are more cases than in the rest of the us per population too. Why? I would like to know what the stats (if any) are there to support the incidence of childhood respiratory ailments and later onset of pd? Is this only annecdotal ? * * * * * * * * Some of the code names for MSG 1. hydrolyzed vegetable protein, hydrolyzed protein, hydrolyzed plant protein, plant protein extract, textured protein 2. sodium caseinate, calcium caseinate 3. yeast extract, autolyzed yeast 4. hydrolyzed oat flour the *Maybe MSG is Hidden in a Part of Something Else and Not Required to be Listed* list: 1. malt extract, malt flavoring (malted anything is a barley product) 2. bullion, natural beef flavoring, natural chicken flavoring, , natural flavoring 3. seasoning, spices These additives can contain excitotoxins: 1. enzymes, carageenen 2. soy protein concentrate, soy isolate 3. whey protein concentrate