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Thanks Greg, I should have known it would be you to come through. It sure makes you wonder what the process is now!! If that practice is still going on and this material can be used in research????? To me it's sad to think what a waste of valuable information may be lost.Of course these disposal methods are never discussed in public,just kind of shoved under a big rug. Shirley Have a great day. ----------------------------------------------------- Click here for Free Video!! http://www.gohip.com/freevideo/ -----Original Message----- From: Greg Sterling <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]> Date: Sunday, February 27, 2000 8:32 AM Subject: Re: NEWS: BBC: Bird brains offer stem cells hope >Shirley, >I worked for a brief time in a hospital maintenance dept. right out of >college in 1971. We used to get "packages" from surgery for disposal. >Originally they were just tossed into the garbage incinerator until the EPA >threw a fit. After that we started disposing of surgical remains in a >special incinerator reserved for whatever came out of surgery. This >included limbs, and other assorted parts of the human anatomy. > >I always used to dread it when an orderly was seen approaching our dept. >rolling a cart with a small box atop it. > >Greg >47/35/35 >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Edward Kleinmeyer" <[log in to unmask]> >To: <[log in to unmask]> >Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2000 7:48 AM >Subject: Re: NEWS: BBC: Bird brains offer stem cells hope > > >> I ask the question some time ago if anyone knew how aborted fetus were >> disposed of and got no response. I do know that in the late 50's and 60's >> they were thrown in the hospital boilers which heated the hospitals in a >> large town in Illinois. I know that sounds sick,but so does the method you >> described. Shirley >> ----------------------------------------------------- >> Click here for Free Video!! >> http://www.gohip.com/freevideo/ >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Ray Strand <[log in to unmask]> >> To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]> >> Date: Saturday, February 26, 2000 9:47 PM >> Subject: Re: NEWS: BBC: Bird brains offer stem cells hope >> >> >> >Back in 1986 I followed my boss (the oncocytogenetics lab director) >> >in New Orleans to a new job in Rochester, NY, we came across an >> >interesting problem. >> > >> >One difficult issue in the move was what to do with the collection >> >of aborted fetuses frozen in liquid nitrogen that had been left by >> >the previous director. The tanks had been well maintained even >> >after the previous director had left :-) >> >(director not in good shape--I say no more). :-( >> > >> >If properly maintained, cell cultures frozen in liquid nitrogen >> >can last indefinitely. :-) >> > >> >Even back in '86 there was talk of stem cells being used for Parkinsons >> >treatment... :-) >> > >> >That was a while ago... :-( >> > >> >I say no more about that. :-( >> > >> >Legally we couldn't touch them--or risk losing NIH funding for an >> >entire university. :-( >> > >> >Possibly the cells are still sitting there, >> >unless someone "pulled the plug" on them to avoid >> >potential bureaucratic problems. :-( >> > >> >The Bird Brains on Capitol Hill have held things up a long while. :-( >> > >> >It has taken some independently inquisitive researchers to get info >> >on stem cells as far along as it is. :-) >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >Michel Margosis wrote: >> > >> >> I would hope that the Bird Brains on Capitol Hill would face reality >and >> >> THINK hard about the responsibilities they hold before voting. >> >> Many are apt to say "don't confuse me facts, my mind is made up!" >> >> Stem cell research is here and will persevere whether it is in this >> >> country with the benefit of NIH supervision, or in other countries that >> >> will reap the financial rewards and glory. >> >> >> >> Michel >> > >> >>.......................................................................... . >> ................. >> > >> > Ray Strand >> > mailto:[log in to unmask] >> > 48/47/45? >> >>.......................................................................... . >> ................. >> > >> >...on the edge of the prairie abyss ...................... >>