Thank you, Hilary, for joining in so quickly! Dr. McKay, you are on the right track! I am glad that you said that the substantia nigra cells "APPEAR" to be dead. Dead or dormant? Or blocked? Or crusted over? . Sometimes when I look in the mirror too early, , I have serious doubts ...maybe I appear dead-to-the-world! Really, I still believe that Dr. McKay is correct, that our cells really are NOT dead...I maintain that the substantia nigra cells are.just DORMANT. We all talk about toxic side-effects of Sinemet or Madopar. OK scientists, lets talk: Somebody on PIEN (who was it?) said that if you take a Sinemet, break it, and leave it in a white sink overnight, it BLACKENS the sink. And it stains the urine. So does Tasmar. Mine sometimes looks like.... bright orange Gatorade? The point is, in LIFE, NOT post-mortem, would antioxidants clear up the MESS that blocks up our system... a Sinemet or Madopar -caused excess of too much phenyalanine (L-dopa)?? Are the gates of the blood-brain barrier crusted over or blocked by the "JUNK" in our system??? Are we all hobling around with Sinemet or Madopar crusts on our cells, that give the POST-MORTEM cells their name of "substantia nigra" ? It becomes even more clear how we need to re-orient our thinking, when one looks at the word negro, or "negra" , which is Latin for BLACKENED, in turn from the Greek or Egyptian word for DEAD ("nekros"). We need terrminology based on LIFE ,on LIVING, not on DYING. I still believe and always will that "Parkinson's Disease" can be, and WILL be overcome. I for one refuse to be pronounced dead! Ivan 50/39/36 On Mon, 20 Mar 2000 02:32:34 -0500 Hilary Blue <[log in to unmask]> writes: > > > > 3)How "dead" are they, really? > > > Ivan > > 50/39/36 > ivan, > dr MCkay, foremost researcher on stem cells at the NIH , who spoke > at a yopd > support group meetimg im Chevy chase , md, last week , did say in > reply to a > similar questiom , that the cells "APPEARED TO BE DEAD" > i thought of you immedia tely and so am taking this opportunity to > tell you ... > hilary ^^^^^^ WARM GREETINGS FROM ^^^^^^^^^^^^ :-) Ivan Suzman 50/39/36 [log in to unmask] :-) Portland, Maine land of lighthouses 29 deg. F :-) ********************************************************************