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Janet - I like the thing about receiver and perceiver. As I've come to know you better on the listserv, and can understand from where you are coming, and have derived so much information from your postings, I am becoming more forgiving of the first time you attacked me, the first time I ever posted. As I told Joan, Hilary and Kristi, we have some good days and some bad days. Keep up the good work. You are very important. Jo Ann from Houston