Lanier.... Why thank you, sir! <Barb bows to the left, bows to right, and bows toward Chattanooga.>.. <smile> Ya just made my day! Hugs.. Barb (QUACK, QUACK) Mallut <giggle> -----Original Message----- From: plmaddux <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]> Date: Wednesday, April 12, 2000 4:05 PM Subject: Non PD, My nomination >Hi Everyone, I would like to nominate this msg from Barb as the funniest >E-Mail of the year. In fact I think it is the funniest one I have ever >gotten in my 3 years on the ListServ. Thanks for the laughs Barb. > >Lanier Maddux Chattanooga Tn. > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Barb_MSN" <[log in to unmask]> >To: <[log in to unmask]> >Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 2:32 PM >Subject: Re: PD Med's Question > > >> Darwin.... >> >> OK... ok.... so what's a little arrogance amongst friends? <grin> >> >> I've been SO busy feathering my wee new nest (I absolutely LOVE >> this oh-so-Parkie-friendly condo complex!) , plus studying >> "duckology," (which is the study of DUCKS as opposed to >> QUACKology, which is the study of shyster-doctors, as you all >> know) <giggle> while paintin,' plantin' 'n potchkyin' (to all >> youse who ain't of the Jewish persuasion, "potchkying around" is >> the same as doing lotsa :"whatever." Kinda like "piddling around >> doing the "same ol same ol." >> >> Sooo, with all this potchkying 'round I forgot for a moment which >> hat I was wearing as I wrote the message you referred to. >> >> By the way, the Mallard ducks, who reside in the many small ponds >> and streams which dapple the condo complex are busy MATING now. >> Sheeesh! I'm surprised that them gal-ducks can even WALK by >> evening!) <giggle> >> >> Gotta go commune with the duckies as ir's been at LEAST 3 minutes >> since I've heard any quacking. For all I know the president of >> the condo association might have up and sold the ducks to a >> chinese restaurant to make into Peking Duck! <YUMMY> <smirk> >> >> Oh.... and thanks for the kind words 'bout my sense of humor, >> Darwin. It's a nice feeling to know one's appreciated. >> >> Barb Mallut >> [log in to unmask] >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Hawkins, Darwin <[log in to unmask]> >> To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]> >> Date: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 8:49 AM >> Subject: Re: PD Med's Question >> >> >> >HA! That's a likely story! The truth finally has come out. >> Freudian still >> >reigns! >> > >> >(P.S. If you are not the most knowledgeable and/or arrogant, you >> certainly >> >are one of the funniest on the list!) >> > >> >> ---------- >> >> From: Barb_MSN[SMTP:[log in to unmask]] >> >> Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 2:40 AM >> >> Subject: Re: PD Med's Question >> >> >> >> OYE!!!!! <--- Barb smacks self on forehead! I GOOFED! I had >> >> meant to say I"m NOT the most PD-knowledgeable amongst the List >> >> members, but have SOME knowledge 'bout the disease after all >> these >> >> years living with it/ >> >> >> >> That' "NOT" not being there sure made me sound arrogant! >> WHEW!!! >> >> T'ain't that when it comes to this steeeenkin disease. >> >> >> >> Barb Mallut >> >> [log in to unmask] >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: Barb_MSN <[log in to unmask]> >> >> To: [log in to unmask] >> <[log in to unmask]> >> >> Date: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 12:29 AM >> >> Subject: Re: PD Med's Question >> >> >> >> >> >> >Hi Sue.... >> >> > >> >> >First of all, there's never been a "posting limit" on this >> List >> >> >that I know of, and I've been logging on daily for 'bout 6 >> years >> >> >or so. >> >> > >> >> >If there IS a limit to the number of messages one can post at >> a >> >> >time then SOME of us are in BIIIIIIIG trouble! <grin> >> >> > >> >> >So relax, m'dear, and post away - get it all out and know you >> can >> >> >count on the folks here on the List to be supportive as well >> as >> >> >knowledgeable about our mutual adversary, Parkinson's Disease. >> >> > >> >> >Regarding your questions, please keep in mind that I'm not an >> MD, >> >> >but rather have had PD for 25 of my 57 years. I"m the the >> most >> >> >"up" on the disease whom you'll hear from over the next few >> days, >> >> >but I have a more than a little general information. >> >> > >> >> >Your question #1: >> >> > >> >> >Your mom should be seen and diagnosed by at least once by a >> >> >neurologist who is a "movement disorder specialist. This time >> >> >might be the best time for for your mother to see this type of >> >> >specialist since you both have unanswered questions with her >> >> >current neuro. >> >> > >> >> >There's one easy way to find out if someone has PD >> >> >and that's to give them Sinemet (the "gold standard" >> >> >of PD drugs). If it dosn't work then mom almost >> >> >certainly doesn't have PD. >> >> > >> >> >As far as PD not being diagnosable at "this stage," >> >> >there ARE noticable symptoms and a half-way decent >> >> >neuro SHOULD be able to diagose your mother >> >> >based upon those symptoms. >> >> > >> >> >Question #2: >> >> > >> >> >Parkinson's CAN be inherited, tho it's not terribly >> >> >common to find familiel PD families on every street >> >> >corner. There are lots of folks here in the List and at >> >> >many of our local PD support groups who know someone >> >> >ARE someone who's the third or forth direct decendant of >> >> >someone or other in their family to have PD, or one >> >> >of the other PD-like diseaes, referred to as >> >> >"Parkinson's Plus." >> >> > >> >> >Question #3: >> >> > >> >> >Mom's neurologist is just plain wrong! See >> >> >above response.... >> >> > >> >> >Hang in there, Sue. And the next time you go to or >> >> >speak with mom's neuro or another MD who might >> >> >see her, go armed with a list of all your, AND a >> >> >portable tape recorder (if possible) so you can tape >> >> >the MD's response. It's SOOOO easy to forget >> >> >to write down the doctor's response to those questions. >> >> >his way you won't have to worry about rushing to write >> >> >it all down. >> >> > >> >> >Hang in there, Sue, and hugs to mom 'n you... >> >> > >> >> >Barb Mallut >> >> >[log in to unmask] >> >> > >> >> >-----Original Message----- >> >> >From: Sue George <[log in to unmask]> >> >> >To: [log in to unmask] >> <[log in to unmask]> >> >> >Date: Monday, April 10, 2000 8:44 PM >> >> >Subject: Re: PD Med's Question >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >>Morning all. I feel nervous of ... posting a query ... (very >> >> >ignorant about >> >> >>it all) ... but ... would like to ask: >> >> >> >> >> >>My mother has uncontrollable tremors that are getting worse. >> My >> >> >grandfather >> >> >>had similar tremors but was never diagnosed as having PD, in >> >> >fact, for all >> >> >>we know, it was never diagnosed as anything. He died at 87 >> ... >> >> >with bad >> >> >>enough tremors that he couldn't write and had difficulty >> walking >> >> >... but >> >> >>other than that ... quite ... healthy (if that's the word?). >> >> >Anyway ... mum >> >> >>has now got these tremors and they are getting worse and >> she's >> >> >been to the >> >> >>doctor and then the neurologist ... who said ... "it isn't >> >> >hereditary" and >> >> >>"there isn't any real way to diagnose it at this stage" but >> "you >> >> >could have >> >> >>it and a i can't say that you haven't got it and we'll just >> have >> >> >to wait and >> >> >>see what happens". I'm paraphrasing here and from mum's >> >> relating >> >> >of the >> >> >>conversation but .. that's about it. >> >> >> >> >> >>Mum feels anxious and upset about it and believes, i think, >> that >> >> >she >> >> >>definitely had PD ... that it is just a matter of time before >> it >> >> >is >> >> >>diagnosed. This is just her "feeling" but it is still a very >> >> >difficult time >> >> >>for her. >> >> >> >> >> >>Anyway ... i got onto the net ... found your list ... and i >> was >> >> >wondering if >> >> >>someone could help me understand a few things: >> >> >> >> >> >>(i) i found some sites on the net where they were advertising >> or >> >> >talking >> >> >>about diagnosis services (imaging, dna) .... are these useful >> >> ... >> >> >why not >> >> >>recommended by the doctor? >> >> >> >> >> >>(ii) i also read on the net that PD was not normally thought >> to >> >> >be >> >> >>hereditary ... which made me wonder ... "then how can they >> use >> >> >dna >> >> >>diagnosis? what is that about?" >> >> >> >> >> >>(iii) also, if PD isn't hereditary ... then perhaps the >> >> >neuromuscular >> >> >>disorder that mum and grandpa have/had is not PD but >> something >> >> >else? what >> >> >>are the other neuromuscular disorders which cause this sought >> of >> >> >symptom? >> >> >> >> >> >>This seems like too many questions. Sorry. I feel like i >> >> >suddenly have a >> >> >>thousand questions? >> >> >> >> >> >>I hope it is OK to post so many at one time. >> >> >> >> >> >>thanks >> >> >>sue >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >> >> >>From: Nancy Burnham <[log in to unmask]> >> >> >>To: [log in to unmask] >> >> <[log in to unmask]> >> >> >>Date: Tuesday, 11 April 2000 10:33 >> >> >>Subject: Re: PD Med's Question >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>In the very beginning Don's doctor prescribed Artane. We >> read >> >> >the side >> >> >>>effects and decided to keep the tremors. >> >> >>> >> >> >>>Nancy B cg for Don 66/17 >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>----- Original Message ----- >> >> >>>From: Brian Collins <[log in to unmask]> >> >> >>>To: <[log in to unmask]> >> >> >>>Sent: Monday, April 10, 2000 5:32 PM >> >> >>>Subject: Re: PD Med's Question >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> On Sun 09 Apr, plmaddux wrote: >> >> >>>> > Hi Folks, >> >> >>>> > After having a tremor for 4 1/2 years I decided to try >> >> >taking a med >> >> >>>> > prescribed by my doctor. He thought that Artane was the >> >> most >> >> >approiate >> >> >>>drug >> >> >>>> > for my symptoms, that being a left side tremor. I had >> been >> >> >taking >> >> >>>Benadryl >> >> >>>> > which was giving me some relief but it was not helping >> much >> >> >and I was >> >> >>>> > beginning to have a headache all the time. >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> Hello Lanier, Re your 1st paragraph : You show me a >> doc. >> >> >who thinks he >> >> >>>> can select an appropriate treatment based on the patients >> >> >symptoms, and >> >> >>>> I'll show you a fool ! >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> Artane is an Anticholinergic drug. It blocks the >> production >> >> of >> >> >>>acetylcholine >> >> >>>> (another neurotransmitter) The reasoning (!!) is that if >> >> there >> >> >is less >> >> >>>> acetylcholine , it may make more room fpr Dopamine. I was >> >> >prescribed >> >> >>>Artane >> >> >>>> immediately upon diagnosis, and I think went up to 10 mg >> in >> >> >the first >> >> >>year >> >> >>>> (Well it was 21 years ago). Of course at that time, I >> thought >> >> >that they >> >> >>>> knew what they were doing. I suppose there was a slight >> >> >reduction in >> >> >>>tremor >> >> >>>> but it was never in control . I made a fuss and was >> switched >> >> >to Sinemet, >> >> >>>> which I urge you to do also. >> >> >>>> Regards, >> >> >>>> -- >> >> >>>> Brian Collins <[log in to unmask]> (60/39/34) >> >> >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > >_____________________________________________ >NetZero - Defenders of the Free World >Click here for FREE Internet Access and Email >http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html