and i mean the barbaras. not the barbed, hurtful comments that some people feel compelled to say publicly. oh , we're all entitled to our viewpopint and the right to free speech - but to my mind it ceases to be free - the cost is too great - when it is used publicly to humiliate somebody else. So barb who created this list, and barb who so eloquently (if slightly ungrammatically) upheld its principles : three cheers for the two of you! now , barb - go get some sleep! hilary blue