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> ---------- > From: Charles T. Meyer MD[SMTP:[log in to unmask]] > Reply To: Charles T. Meyer MD > Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2000 7:19 PM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: depression > > > > As already stated I AM not clinically depressed NOW. But I WAS for > several years. I think I am more in a position to talk than someone who > has never had clinical depression and I'll give you a list of my symptoms > if you don't believe me. Suit yourself, know as little as YOU would like > to know. I am not telling people to pull themselves together and talk > themselves out of it. I said nothing like that. I said nothing about PD > if you read my emails on this subject correctly and I didn't say that the > medical profession know little about PD. I think people can decide for > themselves. > > Sinead > > > ------------- > I am sorry that you had to get out of the depression yourself but I > disagree > strongly that the medical, profession knows little about depression and > how > to treat it. If you are able to achieve things and get the natural high > that gives then probably you are not all that clinically Depressed. The > fact that you were able to shift your attitude without medications is > useful > but does not prove that "the medical profession knows little about > depression." All it proves is we don't know as much as we would like to > know. > > The issue is what is depression? Is it a medical illness that results > from > the interaction of our genetic make-up and our experiences or is it a > moral > weakness that one can talk one's self out of and that people get and keep > from doing something "wrong"? I personally see it as a medical illness > with > meds and certain types of psychotherapy as being quite helpful in treating > most (but not all) people. > > Depression is a brain disease just like PD. and requires medical > treatment > like PD. Who- especially among this group would say that PD is not a > brain > disease and the decreases of dopamine in the brain are just coincidences > that can be wished away. And who among us would say that MD's know little > about PD because they can't cure it? In fact in depression the "cure" or > remission rate is about 80+% with what we do know while with PD the cure > rate is zero. With depression we just know more about the illness' > treatment rather than its pathogenesis. > > I am taking time to make these points because I fear that some people > might > take what you did for yourself as a prescription for themselves and miss > out > on what for many is a potentially lifesaving treatment. > > Charlie > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sinead Aungier" <[log in to unmask]> > To: <[log in to unmask]> > Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2000 4:46 AM > Subject: depression > > > > > I had true clinical depression for several years and know all about it > and > > > drugs did me no good. I got out of it by eating foods high in vitamin > C, > > > such as potatoes, brocolli and cutting out foods that rob you of > vitamins > > > and also by maintaining a moderate body temperature. The medical > > > profession know very little about depression and I had to get out of > it > > > myself. I find that when you're busy and achieving things this gives > you > > > a natural high which can only be good for you rather that being stuck > in > > > your thoughts thinking about your problems, which only reinforces this > bad > > > mental habit. > > > > > Sinead >