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Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 11:00:35 -0600
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Subject: hugs
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sorry folks - I thought I'd sent the graphic in the body of the mailing
- not as an attachment. Don't blame any of you for not accepting - I
don't either. It was just a cute teddy bear with a sign saying 'a hug
for each of you' - Sylvia
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Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 13:22:51 -0400
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Subject: Re-Wired for Life: a new website and org. for DBS and tremor
surgery...
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... is at:
http://www.rewiredforlife.org/
janet paterson
53 now / 41 dx / 37 onset
613 256 8340 / PO Box 171 Almonte Ontario K0A 1A0 Canada
visit my website "a new voice" at: http://www.geocities.com/janet313/
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Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 13:42:26 -0700
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TIP OF THE DAY
HUM HAPPY IS THE DAY
first i don,t know GREG. or what lot is up set over. he has done =
nothing to upset me that I know of. or just over my head. I AMGETING =
OVER LOT OF COMPLETES(FLAMING) i might of done the same. only person i =
know who never does any thing wrong is my believe wife. VIVIAN. CONNIE =
TATE HAS NEVER GOOFED UP MY PC. she sent a great letter to me snail =
mail. i passed it on to my church. thanks CONNIE. I NEVER GOT A BUG FROM =
YOU. like IVAN I took own city hall won. got L.L calls people came to =
the house MAYOR. CALLED SAID ALL WILL BE TAKEN CARE OF. even our radio =
talk show got in the accept. i did not know i was known so well or had =
so much pull lolo oh GREG u can email me some times as i don't know =
yours. not much more on meeting yet. so i will end not lot to say. be =
happy with how you re making out. just show love for each of us. as to =
day tomorrow we are sorry we flamed some one. DON M YOU TOO.
I.Y.Q DON AND VIVIAN
LOVE OF MY LIFE-55
BEST MED'T FOR PD IS
HAPPINESS =
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Sylvia - lotza hugs back to you. You do have a lot on your plate, don't
you. I have a minister friend who has macular degeneration and has had
it for 5 years and he still drives. He has to have special glasses (Don't
know what they are called, but maybe someone else can provde the name.)
Did they put a pig's valve in your son?My husband had his mital valve
replaced with a pig's valve and did beautifully. He passed away however,
from another problem. He
was only 47. Best wishes to you and hopefully things will begin to
settle down. Jo Ann from Houston
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Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 18:28:32 GMT
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don
being good isnt much fun but i will try
thanks for your posting and your optimism and your determination
love judy
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>last night VIVIAN and whitish 20/20 on MJF. at times we did not know if he
>was me or me or him. if lot of you that had read lo of my post over the
>years you can se me. how at times he would stutter, loose what was talking
>about. move his hands,arms to cover his shakes. not to ask for pity.do all
>you can and then do more. how he got leg,toes cramps. how at times we can
>forget things. how tough it is on the young PWP'S does not want a wheel
>chair so on. how every day it is a fight to go on. he ask or wondered what
>it would be like as you get older. i can put my hand on a bible and say it
>does not get any easyer. i told how i put in a patio,pained,cut my grass. i
>will say i do not do it much any more as i get wore out. i could do it in
>4hrs now 8 if then. but still try. all of us is different. put please do
>not sit and whatch t.v all day. also he and STACY HAVE THERE DIFF. he said
>lot of things that where right. so if some one laugh or stare at you laugh
>and stare back. we are just as good as them.so if lot wonder what i am like
>and what i do just think of MJF. there is more i got or should say but not
>now as i am begging to flack out. U ALL BE GOOD.
>
> I.Y.Q.
>DON AND VIVIAN
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Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 18:51:50 GMT
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large koala hugs from me
you must feel swamped somedays
much love judy
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>Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 10:50:01 -0600
>
>Subject:
> HUGS
> Date:
> Thu, 18 May 2000 09:56:42 -0600
> From:
> Sylvia Berger <[log in to unmask]>
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>
>
>
>I'm not sure if this is 'netiquette' if not - sorry - I'll take ten
>lashes with a
>wet noodle! But I wanted to send it to say 'thanks' for the many hours
>of
>entertainment and information you've all given me. You're all so open,
>up
>front and everybody seems to have it together - not like me who's
>rapidly
>falling apart as one thing after another is piling up. My son, who is
>is 38
>going on 6 (he's mentally handicapped) had his second open heart surgery
>
>in Feb - a valve replacement. He's doing well but now we find that that
>my
>husband probably has age related macular degeneration and is terrified
>that he may lose his drivers licence (apart from the fear of going blind
>
>although everything I've gathered from Murrays web sites -they're useful
>
>for other things as well as PD - says this is unlikely to happen]Anyway
>here it
>is..................................a teddy bear hug for each of you!
>[Hope youyou can get the graphic]
>[Image]
>
>
><< berger.vcf >>
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Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 12:33:34 -0500
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Please Note the following website:
http://nccam.nih.gov/nccam/strategic/report.html
An agency has been set up by the Federal Government (US) to evaluate
Alternative Medicine. The National Center for Complementary and Alternative
Medicine is now setting its agenda for thew next five years of research and
is looking for citizen input.
As most of you know I am not a fan of Alternative Medicine in most forms it
is practiced. But I do feel that it needs to be researched both to find out
whar is useful as well as what is dangerous and what is neither dangerous
nor particularly useful. I think that this agency has the greatest
possibility of accomplishing this task- both to protect the public against
fraud which is rampent in this industry and inadvertent misinformation. as
well
In case you think that everything will be stacked against alternative
medicine please read my post that follows which is an evaluation of
acupuncture which to me appear fairly well balanced giving it credit where
it deserves it.
If you are interested in filing a comment with NIH's NCCAM please go to the
website and follow instructions there.
Charlie
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Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 15:05:25 -0400
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Excellent article except for one error - The lack of movement or the
inability to move is bradykinesia. Dyskinesia is just the opposite -
excessive involuntary movements caused by an overdose of dopamine.
Ease the burden, Find the Cure
Bruce
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Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 19:11:11 GMT
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ageing
constant reminders of my age exist
popstars on tv whom i have no hope of remembering e.g.will smith
my granddaughters rolls their eyes in mock horror
the initials *mjf*.....not my era
the words of the latest pop tunes
more eye rolling and looks of mock horror
where are the car keys
i cant cut my toenails with the same elegance
eyebrows get lost in the mirror
my doctors pronouncement that the beauty spots on my face were indeed senile
warts ...can you believe it
however inside the mirrors image is a young beautiful agile and sexy lady
whom age has not withered ..ready for most things
or thats what i keep saying to myself
hope the new apartement is suitable chuck
no stairs is a great thing
lifes a great adventure if one can keep up with it
judy
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>Has anyone else on the list ever wondered if the aging of our bodies is
>God's way of reminding us we only have so much time to get our mission
>completed?
>
>I know if it wasn't for mirrors, and now the relatively rapid aging
>effects of PD, I would be surprised each time someone asks me if I want
>the seniors discount. On this list, with the anonymity of the written
>word, there is little sense of age at all, and I suspect that all of you
>share my lack of personal awareness of age, at least while you lie in bed
>with meds working well.
>
>With each passing year the whole concept of time blurs, and my life takes
>on the character of a big family album. I need only open to the right
>page and I am looking at my daughters in the crib, instead of standing by
>their sides looking down at my grandchildren in their cribs, Oops, now
>those grandchildren are getting ready for their first date, the page
>turned. Einstein or someone like that said time is an illusion, a
>construct of our minds, and I've come to agree by noticing that half my
>life went by divided in equal time periods into the time it took to raise
>a family and one trip to the dentist for wisdom teeth extraction.
>
>Pat and I spent yesterday and last night boxing our stuff for the movers
>who come this morning to take us from this three story endurance test to
>a single level home in the senior zoned section of our city (how neat to
>go from being the old folks on the block to the youngsters one last
>time). By the time we crawled into bed both of us knew our age, but as
>to Parkie, I am grateful to report I made it up and down those stairs at
>least a third as many times as I would have in the past, and I actually
>carried some stuff in the process.
>
>But back to the subject. This morning I woke thinking (sometime
>dangerous for my well being) that God and my soul must think I need a 4
>alarm wake up call, a loud, obnoxious, and ever present Road Sign called
>Parkinson's with a message in such big letters that even I can't remain
>oblivious: "GET ON WITH IT CHUCK." Wish I knew for sure what IT is
>suppose to be.
>
>Love
>Chuck
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Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 15:25:01 -0400
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My personal viewpoint is that everyday is a wake-up call. Although it does
no good to worry about the future we still need definite goals in life
regardless of how long we have lived. Life is a process of becoming, it is
a journey, not a destination. As we achieve our goals we need to replace
them with others, otherwise we have a tendency to curl up and die. We not
only need to remain physically active but mentally, emotionally, and
spiritually as well
Ease the Burden, Find the Cure
Bruce
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Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 12:47:51 -0700
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I received the teddy bear in the body plus an attachment.
Ineeded that Hug today. Thanks.
Juanita CG for George 74 dx 98
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Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 16:14:39 -0400
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Subject: Returning to work after disability?
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A friend is curious whether any PWPS who had applied for and received
disability approval then decided to try to return to work? Apparently some
insurance companies do allow a trial period of several months in such a
situation before eligibility is lost.
If any of you have had experience with this, please let me know.
Camilla Flintermann, CG for Peter 82/70/55
Oxford, Ohio
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Caregivers of Parkinsonians ! "
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Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 13:22:08 -0700
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You said, hope the new apartment is suitable chuck
no stairs is a great thing
Actually it is a modest 3 BR house, but the backyard is adjacent to the
second green at my golf club. I can't wait to step over the little
redwood fence (less that one meter high) and practice short shots in the
evenings, maybe even play a few holes. This senior small town within the
city (It has its own ordinances, one of which is that emergency vehicles
must turn sirens off when enering Kern City, as its called), has a
population of just a thousand or so people.
Love
Chuck
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Hi Camilla,
Yes I was awarded disability and tried going back to work for awhile. I was
almost penalized for the time I worked. After my situation was evaluated
social security decided not to ask for a return of funds. I did try working
for a year, but then the pd was becoming debilitating to the point there was
no ONE day alike. I have not worked for 7 years now. Hope this helps.
Sandra Norris
"Faith is the daring of the soul to go farther than it can see."
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Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 14:33:05 -0700
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I liked that statement, Don,"WE are just as good as them".Your comments,
as usual, are very thoughtful ..Regards, Thea and Gordon Seese
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2000/05/18
163 pubmed search results
Receptors in neurodegenerative diseases.
Froestl W.
Pharm Acta Helv. 2000 Mar;74(2-3):247-51.
PMID: 10812965; UI: 20272845
Excitatory amino acid agonists and antagonists
Trist DG.
Pharm Acta Helv. 2000 Mar;74(2-3):221-9.
PMID: 10812962; UI: 20272842
Altinicline (SIB-1508Y), a novel agonist.
Cosford ND, Bleicher L, Vernier JM, Chavez-Noriega L,
Pharm Acta Helv. 2000 Mar;74(2-3):125-30.
PMID: 10812948; UI: 20272828
Nicotinic systems in central nervous systems disease
Newhouse PA, Kelton M.
Pharm Acta Helv. 2000 Mar;74(2-3):91-101.
PMID: 10812945; UI: 20272825
Energetic adaptation to chronic disease in the elderly.
Toth MJ, Poehlman ET.
Nutr Rev. 2000 Mar;58(3 Pt 1):61-6.
PMID: 10812919; UI: 20272799
Anorectal function in early and late stage PD
Bassotti G, Maggio D, Battaglia E, Giulietti O,
J Neurol Neurosurg Psychiatry. 2000 Jun;68(6):768-770.
PMID: 10811703
Dopamine agonists: their role in the treatment of PD
Brooks DJ.
J Neurol Neurosurg Psychiatry. 2000 Jun;68(6):685-689. No abstract available.
PMID: 10811688
Porcine xenografts in PD and Huntington's disease
Fink JS, Schumacher JM, Ellias SL, Palmer EP,
Cell Transplant. 2000 Mar-Apr;9(2):273-8.
PMID: 10811399; UI: 20269536
Intrastriatal ventral mesencephalic xenografts of porcine tissue in rats
Larsson LC, Czech KA, Brundin P, Widner H.
Cell Transplant. 2000 Mar-Apr;9(2):261-72.
PMID: 10811398; UI: 20269535
Embryonic mesencephalic, dopaminergic tissue grafted to a minipig model of PD
Danielsen EH, Cumming P, Andersen F, Bender D,
Cell Transplant. 2000 Mar-Apr;9(2):247-59.
PMID: 10811397; UI: 20269534
Neural tissue xenotransplantation: what is needed prior to clinical trials in PD
Barker RA, Kendall AL, Widner H.
Cell Transplant. 2000 Mar-Apr;9(2):235-46.
PMID: 10811396; UI: 20269533
Implication of the subthalamic nucleus in PD
Benazzouz A, Piallat B, Ni ZG, Koudsie A, Pollak P, Benabid AL.
Cell Transplant. 2000 Mar-Apr;9(2):215-21.
PMID: 10811394; UI: 20269531
Complex sensorimotor behavioral changes after transplantation
Rodter A, Winkler C, Samii M, Nikkhah G.
Cell Transplant. 2000 Mar-Apr;9(2):197-214.
PMID: 10811393; UI: 20269530
Improving the survival of grafted dopaminergic neurons
Brundin P, Karlsson J, Emgard M, Schierle GS,
Cell Transplant. 2000 Mar-Apr;9(2):179-95.
PMID: 10811392; UI: 20269529
Sleep and periodic leg movement patterns in drug-free patients with PD
Wetter TC, Collado-Seidel V, Pollmacher T, Yassouridis A,
Sleep. 2000 May 1;23(3):361-7.
PMID: 10811380; UI: 20269517
COMT in parkinsonian patients with "on-off fluctuations".
Woitalla D, Karwasz R, Muller T, Przuntek H, Kuhn W.
J Neural Transm. 2000;107(1):105-11.
PMID: 10809408; UI: 20267405
Effects of apomorphine on visual functions in PD
Buttner T, Muller T, Kuhn W.
J Neural Transm. 2000;107(1):87-94.
PMID: 10809406; UI: 20267403
Risk factors for dementia, depression and psychosis in long-standing PD
Giladi N, Treves TA, Paleacu D, Shabtai H,
J Neural Transm. 2000;107(1):59-71.
PMID: 10809404; UI: 20267401
Altered redox state of platelet coenzyme Q10 in PD
Gotz ME, Gerstner A, Harth R, Dirr A,
J Neural Transm. 2000;107(1):41-8.
PMID: 10809402; UI: 20267399
Involvement of alpha-synuclein in PD
Kruger R, Muller T, Riess O.
J Neural Transm. 2000;107(1):31-40.
PMID: 10809401; UI: 20267398
Cell death mechanisms in PD
Jellinger KA.
J Neural Transm. 2000;107(1):1-29.
PMID: 10809400; UI: 20267397
Depression in PD
Allain H, Schuck S, Mauduit N.
BMJ. 2000 May 13;320(7245):1287-1288. No abstract available.
PMID: 10807601
D-beta -Hydroxybutyrate protects neurons in models of PD
Kashiwaya Y, Takeshima T, Mori N, Nakashima K,
Proc Natl Acad Sci U S A. 2000 May 9;97(10):5440-5444.
PMID: 10805800
Levodopa-induced dyskinesias in PD: is sensitization reversible?
Bejjani BP, Arnulf I, Demeret S, Damier P,
Ann Neurol. 2000 May;47(5):655-8.
PMID: 10805339; UI: 20263089
Alpha-synuclein and PD
Forloni G, Bertani I, Calella AM, Thaler F, Invernizzi R.
Ann Neurol. 2000 May;47(5):632-40.
PMID: 10805334; UI: 20263084
PD: affection of brain stem nuclei and the somatomotor system.
Braak H, Rub U, Sandmann-Keil D, Gai WP,
Acta Neuropathol (Berl). 2000 May;99(5):489-95.
PMID: 10805091; UI: 20262841
The effect of amantadine on levodopa-induced dyskinesias in PD
Snow BJ, Macdonald L, Mcauley D, Wallis W.
Clin Neuropharmacol. 2000 Mar-Apr;23(2):82-5.
PMID: 10803797; UI: 20260942
A home diary to assess functional status in patients with PD
Hauser RA, Friedlander J, Zesiewicz TA, Adler CH,
Clin Neuropharmacol. 2000 Mar-Apr;23(2):75-81.
PMID: 10803796; UI: 20260941
Transderm-induced psychosis in PD
Quinn N, Minagar A, Shulman LM, Weiner WJ.
Neurology. 2000 May 9;54(9):1877. No abstract available.
PMID: 10802809; UI: 20264475
Bimanual self-paced motor task in PD
Fattapposta F, Pierelli F, Traversa G, My F,
Clin Neurophysiol. 2000 May 1;111(5):873-883.
PMID: 10802459
Tremor-correlated cortical activity detected by electroencephalography.
Hellwig B, Hausler S, Lauk M, Guschlbauer B, Koster B,
Clin Neurophysiol. 2000 May 1;111(5):806-809.
PMID: 10802450
(ACE) inhibitor, perindopril, modifies clinical features of PD
Reardon KA, Mendelsohn FA, Chai SY, Horne MK.
Aust N Z J Med. 2000 Feb;30(1):48-53.
PMID: 10800878; UI: 20258816
Naloxone prevents degeneration of dopaminergic neurons in rats.
Lu X, Bing G, Hagg T.
Neuroscience. 2000 Apr 1;97(2):285-291.
PMID: 10799760
Protective effect of L-Deprenyl against apoptosis
Suuronen T, Kolehmainen P, Salminen A.
Biochem Pharmacol. 2000 Jun 1;59(12):1589-1595.
PMID: 10799657
The association between parkinsonism, Alzheimer's disease, and mortality
Mitchell SL, Rockwood K.
J Am Geriatr Soc. 2000 Apr;48(4):422-5.
PMID: 10798470; UI: 20256328
Determination of drugs used as anti-PD drugs in urine and serum
Vargas G, Havel J, Babackova L, Patocka J.
J Capillary Electrophor. 1998 May-Aug;5(3-4):153-8.
PMID: 10797881; UI: 20258216
Lisuride for levodopa-induced complications in PD
Clarke C E, Speller J M.
Cochrane Database Syst Rev. 2000;2:CD001515.
PMID: 10796801
Lisuride versus bromocriptine for levodopa-induced complications in PD
Clarke C E, Speller J M.
Cochrane Database Syst Rev. 2000;2:CD001514.
PMID: 10796800
Bromocriptine for levodopa-induced motor complications in PD
Hilten JJ va, Ramaker C, Beek WJT Van de, Finken MJ.
PMID: 10796755
Pergolide vs bromocriptine for levodopa-induced motor complications in PD
Clarke C E, Speller J M.
Cochrane Database Syst Rev. 2000;2:CD000236.
PMID: 10796705
Pergolide for levodopa-induced complications in PD
Clarke C E, Speller J M.
Cochrane Database Syst Rev. 2000;2:CD000235.
PMID: 10796704
Posteroventral pallidotomy in PD
Herrera EJ, Viano JC, Caceres M, Costello G,
Acta Neurochir (Wien). 2000;142(2):169-75.
PMID: 10795891; UI: 20254908
The role of iron in PD and MPTP toxicity.
Yantiri F, Andersen JK.
IUBMB Life. 1999 Aug;48(2):139-41.
PMID: 10794588; UI: 20252581
Promotion of fetal tissue graft survival with GDNF in PD
Mendez I, Dagher A, Hong M, Hebb A,
J Neurosurg. 2000 May;92(5):863-9.
PMID: 10794303; UI: 20252277
Increased responsivity of glutamate release from the substantia nigra in rats
Marti M, Sbrenna S, Fuxe K, Bianchi C,
Eur J Neurosci. 2000 May;12(5):1848-1850.
PMID: 10792462
Protection against dopaminergic cell death by excitatory input ablation.
Takada M, Matsumura M, Kojima J, Yamaji Y,
Eur J Neurosci. 2000 May;12(5):1771-1780.
PMID: 10792454
MPTP selectively induces haem oxygenase-1 expression in striatal astrocytes.
Fernandez-Gonzalez A, Perez-Otano I, Morgan JI.
Eur J Neurosci. 2000 May;12(5):1573-1583.
PMID: 10792435
Remote memory impairment in Alzheimer's disease and PD
Fama R, Sullivan EV, Shear PK, Stein M,
Neuropsychology. 2000 Apr;14(2):265-76.
PMID: 10791866; UI: 20250528
Working memory in medicated and non-medicated PD patients
Fournet N, Moreaud O, Roulin JL, Naegele B,
Neuropsychology. 2000 Apr;14(2):247-53.
PMID: 10791864; UI: 20250526
Recognition memory impairment in PD
Whittington CJ, Podd J, Kan MM.
Neuropsychology. 2000 Apr;14(2):233-46.
PMID: 10791863; UI: 20250525
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Therapeutic effect of repetitive transcranial magnetic stimulation in PD
Shimamoto H, Morimitsu H, Sugita S, Nakahara K,
Rinsho Shinkeigaku. 1999 Dec;39(12):1264-7.
PMID: 10791094; UI: 20251690
Molecular mechanism of monoamine toxicity in PD
Jimenez del Rio M, Velez-Pardo C.
Med Hypotheses. 2000 Feb;54(2):269-74.
PMID: 10790763; UI: 20253830
The toxic mind: the biology of mental illness and violence.
Van Winkle E.
Med Hypotheses. 2000 Jan;54(1):146-56.
PMID: 10790741; UI: 20250365
New animal models for Parkinson's disease.
Dawson TM.
Cell. 2000 Apr 14;101(2):115-8. Review. No abstract available.
PMID: 10786830; UI: 20246502
Pharmaceutical target discovery: PD and schizophrenia genes.
Walker MG, Volkmuth W, Klingler TM.
Ismb. 1999;:282-6.
PMID: 10786311; UI: 20248035
Cardiovascular autonomic dysfunction in PD
Mathias CJ.
Clin Neurosci. 1998;5(2):153-66. Review.
PMID: 10785842; UI: 20247548
Visuo-cognitive dysfunctions in PD
Antal A, Bandini F, Keri S, Bodis-Wollner I.
Clin Neurosci. 1998;5(2):147-52. Review.
PMID: 10785841; UI: 20247547
Gastrointestinal dysfunction in PD
Pfeiffer RF.
Clin Neurosci. 1998;5(2):136-46. Review.
PMID: 10785840; UI: 20247546
Respiratory function in PD
Shill H, Stacy M.
Clin Neurosci. 1998;5(2):131-5. Review.
PMID: 10785839; UI: 20247545
Neurophysiology of sensorimotor integration in PD
Rossini PM, Filippi MM, Vernieri F.
Clin Neurosci. 1998;5(2):121-30. Review.
PMID: 10785838; UI: 20247544
Imaging of nonmotor symptoms in Parkinson syndromes.
Paulus W, Trenkwalder C.
Clin Neurosci. 1998;5(2):115-20. Review.
PMID: 10785837; UI: 20247543
Sleep dysfunction in PD
Trenkwalder C.
Clin Neurosci. 1998;5(2):107-14. Review.
PMID: 10785836; UI: 20247542
Visual dysfunction in PD
Rodnitzky RL.
Clin Neurosci. 1998;5(2):102-6. Review.
PMID: 10785835; UI: 20247541
Olfactory dysfunction in PD
Wszolek ZK, Markopoulou K.
Clin Neurosci. 1998;5(2):94-101. Review.
PMID: 10785834; UI: 20247540
Behavioral dysfunction in PD
Friedman JH.
Clin Neurosci. 1998;5(2):87-93. Review.
PMID: 10785833; UI: 20247539
Urinary dysfunction in PD
Singer C.
Clin Neurosci. 1998;5(2):78-86. Review.
PMID: 10785832; UI: 20247538
Sexual dysfunction in PD
Lambert D, Waters CH.
Clin Neurosci. 1998;5(2):73-7. Review.
PMID: 10785831; UI: 20247537
Pain in PD
Ford B.
Clin Neurosci. 1998;5(2):63-72. Review.
PMID: 10785830; UI: 20247536
CP-101,606, an Antagonist of NR2B Subunit-Containing N-Methyl-d-Aspartate Receptors.
Steece-Collier K, Chambers LK, Jaw-Tsai SS, Menniti FS,
Exp Neurol. 2000 May;163(1):239-243.
PMID: 10785463
125I-CGP 64213 Binding to GABA(B) Receptors in the Brain of Monkeys
Calon F, Morissette M, Goulet M, Grondin R,
Exp Neurol. 2000 May;163(1):191-199.
PMID: 10785458
GDNF and NT-4 Protect Dopaminergic Neurons from Damage by Iron and Nitric Oxide.
Lingor P, Unsicker K, Krieglstein K.
Exp Neurol. 2000 May;163(1):55-62.
PMID: 10785444
An Altered Histaminergic Innervation of the Substantia Nigra in PD
Anichtchik OV, Rinne JO, Kalimo H, Panula P.
Exp Neurol. 2000 May;163(1):20-30.
PMID: 10785440
PD impairs the ability to change set quickly.
Chong RK, Horak FB, Woollacott MH.
J Neurol Sci. 2000 Apr 1;175(1):57-70.
PMID: 10785258
Early differentiation of PD and MSA with I-123-MIBG-SPECT.
Druschky A, Hilz MJ, Platsch G, Radespiel-Troger M,
J Neurol Sci. 2000 Apr 1;175(1):3-12.
PMID: 10785250
VIP relevance to neuroprotection in PD
Offen D, Sherki Y, Melamed E, Fridkin M,
Brain Res. 2000 Jan 31;854(1-2):257-62.
PMID: 10784133; UI: 20244719
GDNF and increased survival of dopaminergic neurons in fetal grafts
Espejo M, Cutillas B, Arenas TE, Ambrosio S.
Cell Transplant. 2000 Jan-Feb;9(1):45-53.
PMID: 10784066; UI: 20244652
Effect of swallowing training on swallowing disorders in PD
Nagaya M, Kachi T, Yamada T.
Scand J Rehabil Med. 2000 Mar;32(1):11-5.
PMID: 10782935; UI: 20243029
Structural changes in substantia nigra in PD revealed by MR imaging.
Hutchinson M, Raff U.
AJNR Am J Neuroradiol. 2000 Apr;21(4):697-701.
PMID: 10782780; UI: 20242874
Effects of L-DOPA and the D1 agonist SKF 82958 in monkey model.
Andringa G, Lubbers L, Drukarch B, Stoof JC,
Behav Pharmacol. 1999 Mar;10(2):175-82.
PMID: 10780830; UI: 20241742
Effects of D2 agonist quinpirole and D1 agonist SKF 81297 in monkey model.
Andringa G, Vermeulen RJ, Drukarch B, Renier WO,
Behav Pharmacol. 1999 Mar;10(2):163-73.
PMID: 10780829; UI: 20241741
COMT inhibition in PD: rationale and clinical relevance.
Deleu D.
Acta Neurol Belg. 2000 Mar;100(1):5-7. No abstract available.
PMID: 10779856; UI: 20242128
Parkinsonian Motor Characteristics in Unipolar Major Depression.
Rogers MA, Bradshaw JL, Phillips JG, Chiu E,
J Clin Exp Neuropsychol. 2000 Apr;22(2):232-244.
PMID: 10779837
Effect of selegiline on cognitive functions in PD
Dixit SN, Behari M, Ahuja GK.
J Assoc Physicians India. 1999 Aug;47(8):784-6.
PMID: 10778622; UI: 20241090
Rejection of Porcine Mesencephalic Xenografts in a Rat Model of PD
Barker RA, Ratcliffe E, McLaughlin M, Richards A,
J Neurosci. 2000 May 1;20(9):3415-3424.
PMID: 10777804
Sleep attacks and PD treatment.
Ferreira JJ, Galitzky M, Montastruc JL, Rascol O.
Lancet. 2000 Apr 15;355(9212):1333-4.
PMID: 10776750; UI: 20236508
Sleep attacks (sleep episodes) with pergolide.
Schapira AH.
Lancet. 2000 Apr 15;355(9212):1332-3.
PMID: 10776749; UI: 20236507
Abnormal reciprocal inhibition between antagonist muscles in PD
Meunier S, Pol S, Houeto JL, Vidailhet M.
Brain. 2000 May;123(Pt 5):1017-1026.
PMID: 10775546
The surgical treatment of PD
Follett KA.
Annu Rev Med. 2000;51:135-47.
PMID: 10774457; UI: 20236272
Repetitive transcranial magnetic stimulation in PD
Siebner HR, Mentschel C, Auer C, Lehner C,
Neurosci Lett. 2000 Apr 28;284(3):147-50.
PMID: 10773420; UI: 20237803
Naloxone Protects Rat Dopaminergic Neurons against Inflammatory Damage
Liu B, Du L, Hong JS.
J Pharmacol Exp Ther. 2000 May 1;293(2):607-617.
PMID: 10773035
Metabolic activity in the subthalamic nucleus in a rat model of PD
Orieux G, Francois C, Feger J, Yelnik J,
Neuroscience. 2000;97(1):79-88.
PMID: 10771341; UI: 20235584
Nicotinic receptors and PD
Quik M, Jeyarasasingam G.
Eur J Pharmacol. 2000 Mar 30;393(1-3):223-30.
PMID: 10771017; UI: 20235313
Functional brain imaging of movement disorders.
Eidelberg D, Edwards C.
Neurol Res. 2000 Apr;22(3):305-12.
PMID: 10769825; UI: 20232658
Mechanisms of deep brain stimulation and future technical developments.
Montgomery EB Jr, Baker KB.
Neurol Res. 2000 Apr;22(3):259-66.
PMID: 10769818; UI: 20232651
Advances in neurostimulation for movement disorders.
Gross RE, Lozano AM.
Neurol Res. 2000 Apr;22(3):247-58.
PMID: 10769817; UI: 20232650
Future prospects of brain stimulation.
Benabid AL, Koudsie A, Pollak P, Kahane P,
Neurol Res. 2000 Apr;22(3):237-46.
PMID: 10769816; UI: 20232649
Parkinson disease survival: a population-based study.
Morgante L, Salemi G, Meneghini F, Di Rosa AE,
Arch Neurol. 2000 Apr;57(4):507-12.
PMID: 10768625; UI: 20229112
The alpha-synuclein gene and PD in a Chinese population.
Chan DK, Mellick G, Cai H, Wang XL,
Arch Neurol. 2000 Apr;57(4):501-3.
PMID: 10768624; UI: 20229111
Cognitive impairment and the brain dopaminergic system in PD
Rinne JO, Portin R, Ruottinen H, Nurmi E,
Arch Neurol. 2000 Apr;57(4):470-5.
PMID: 10768619; UI: 20229106
Subthalamic stimulation in PD: a multidisciplinary approach.
Houeto JL, Damier P, Bejjani PB, Staedler C,
Arch Neurol. 2000 Apr;57(4):461-5.
PMID: 10768618; UI: 20229105
PET: the merging of biology and imaging into molecular imaging.
Phelps ME.
J Nucl Med. 2000 Apr;41(4):661-81. Review.
PMID: 10768568; UI: 20229055
Binding of [99mTc]TRODAT-1 to dopamine transporters in PD
Mozley PD, Schneider JS, Acton PD, Plossl K,
J Nucl Med. 2000 Apr;41(4):584-9.
PMID: 10768556; UI: 20229043
janet paterson
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Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 17:57:27 -0400
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Hi folks -
I need to get some authoritative info on the relative "strength" of Sinemet vs.
Requip. In other words, if a PWP is taking a certain amount of Sinemet per day
and switches to Requip, how much Requip would likely be required to produce the
same effects.
I know that different drugs aren't directly comparable, that the relative
strength conversions aren't always simple, and that there's sometimes
disagreement among the experts, but I'm sure there must be some info on this
somewhere. Any help will be appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
- Doug
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Please anyone who wants this contact me directly. The file is too long for
the Listserv and rather than clutter things up please check with me off list
or check the website for Consensus statement.
Charlie
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Subject: Re: People Interested in Alternative Medicine
Dr. Meyer: I worked in hospitals for 26 years before I made the
mistake of going into the real estate business, and at one time I was
wholeheartedly against alternative treatments. . However, something
happened, which caused me to seek out a recommended
chiropractor, and he was wonderful in helping me with my problem.
Then in 1992, I developed Bell's palsy (God was I ugly). I chose
acupunture, which helped me get over the paralysis quicker. So there are
things that alternative practitioners can help. Good luck in your
research. Jo Ann from Houston
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Janet,
You might want to consider putting some comment and/or
instruction as to what these information are and how
to use them.
Thanks Janet.
YH
--- janet paterson <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Therapeutic effect of repetitive transcranial
> magnetic stimulation in PD
> Shimamoto H, Morimitsu H, Sugita S, Nakahara K,
> Rinsho Shinkeigaku. 1999 Dec;39(12):1264-7.
> PMID: 10791094; UI: 20251690
>
> Molecular mechanism of monoamine toxicity in PD
> Jimenez del Rio M, Velez-Pardo C.
> Med Hypotheses. 2000 Feb;54(2):269-74.
> PMID: 10790763; UI: 20253830
......
......
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Dear Listfriends,
This message was posted on "Ask the Doctor" and I believe is appropriate
to post to the listserv (I received permission to post a previous
message, and I feel sure that if there were time, Dr. Lieberman would
give permission to post this one also).
Best regards,
Kathrynne
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***A message from Ask the Doctor***
on thursday, tonight, may 18 at 8 pm eastern time healthology is
hosting a live chat with me which all of you are welcome to participate
in
the chat will focus on the recent article in the new england journal of
medicine on the use of requip as a first line treatment for parkinson
disease to participate in the chat which is free of charge
you should go to http://chat.yahoo.com
then look under live event for parkinson chat
it's short notice but hope you can participate
abe lieberman
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"Parkinson's disease: interview and assessment tools for nutrition
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"Risk for malnutrition and bone fracture in Parkinson'sdisease," J Nutr
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Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 01:33:50 -0400
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At 05:37 PM 2000/05/18 -0700, "YH <[log in to unmask]>" wrote:
>Janet,
>You might want to consider putting some comment...
... and then again i might *not* want to ...!!!
you have an interesting accent !
australia? malaysia?
janet
ps
seek and ye shall find
janet paterson
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The conclusion of a 5 year Double-blind placebo controlled experiment
has resulted in a tentative conclusion that two plus two equals FOUR.
A spokesman for the Research team said 'The findings should provide a
new insight into the difficult subject of prescribing drugs for the
treatment of Parkinson's Disease'
Procedures; The study was carried out using a team of volunteers
who were all Neurologists between the ages of 25 and 30 years.
Using a double-blind random selection technique they were grouped
in pairs and locked into cages, with two pairs in each cage.
After five years, the subjects were released and counted. To
the amazement of the Research team, the average number of neurologists
in each cage was Four! ( Eight of the cages contained only three
neurologists, but this was anticipated in the study, knowing how anti-
social some neuros can be. An unexpected result was obtained wherein
six cages were found to contain 5 people in each cage. The spokesman
became rather agitated and refused to discuss this result.
In summary, this new finding will have repercussions whenever
prescriptions are produced, and in future in the manufacture and
packaging of drugs, all of which can be approached confident in the
knowledge that Two plus Two Equals Four. (At a 95% confidence level)
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No, I haven't flipped just yet: This bit of whimsy was provoked by
the report concerning Ropinerol and Dyskinesia, which must come high
in the list ofstatements of the obvious.
Surely any neurologist worth his salt could ,after about two minutes
of concentrated thought, make a confident and accurate prediction of
the result of this study.
It is obvious that the Ropinerol people are going to work their way
through the age ranges , and the whole Parkinson's Circus (Patients
included) Are going to congratulate them on a splendid piece of work.
I think it is a total wate of money.
I just had a mischeivous thought: I don't see why the other Dopamine
Agonist manufacturers should not read the Ropinerol result across to
their drug, with no further testing...... Any comments?
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Hello Charles, I would just like to thank you for a most informative
article on your Bilateral STN Stimulator Surgery, published in the
Spring 2000 issue of the EPDA (European Parkinson's Disease Association)
Magazine. With your informed background, the report made fascinating
reading.
I wish you many years of success with this new technology.
Regards,
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> I chose acupunture, which helped me get
> over the paralysis quicker. So there are things that alternative
> practitioners can help.
Jo Ann,
How do you know that the acupuncture made the Bell's Palsy clear up
faster? I treat Bell's Palsy in my practice and there is really nothing
that makes it get better any faster than the nerve takes to recover its
function (which is not often total).
The only way to really tell is to take an identical group of diagnosed
patients and treat half of them with acupuncture and the other half
with nothing.
BTW, I think that acupuncture has its place in medicine. It is a good
pain-reliever, but it does not "cure" anything.
Best,
Bob
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Hi Jo Ann and Judy - my post wasn't intended as a 'poor little me -I need
sympathy' cry. Somebody once asked me how long it took before I accepted the
fact of my son's handicap. My response was that I would never accept it -
just get used to it and handle it as well as possible - and that means
*never* giving up. I feel the same way about Mr. PD; arthur itis and the
big C. Yes we've coped with a lot but many people are worse off and I'm very
lucky in lots of ways. BTW Phil has an artificial valve - the Docs here seem
to use them in younger patients as they apparently last longer. This is
getting a little long and maybe it should be off line . However.....
Thanx for your good wishes - I feel better already
Sylvia Dx 88 and doing well
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Dr Bob, your comment on Bells Palsy
really struck home. I am living proof that
no matter what treatment is used the nerves do not always repair. I have
a left-sided droop in my mouth and eye .
I had Bells in 1989. This droop also
is more evident when I am over-tired.
Just wanted to againthank you for your
very informative interesting posts.
Juanita CG for George 74 dx 98
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Hi All,
I read this news in the Canadian papers today and thought "Wow! This is fantastic. If they
can do this for diabetes maybe soon we People With Parkinson's will get a *breakthrough*!"
I live for this stuff! ............... murray
I went on the web and found the story at:
http://www.edmontonjournal.com/stories1/000518/4124554.html
Thursday 18 May 2000
U of A team beats diabetes
Eight diabetics have not needed insulin shots since islet cell transplant
Andy Ogle, Journal Staff Writer
The Edmonton Journal
A University of Alberta research team has produced a diabetes breakthrough that has already
freed eight people from their daily insulin injections for an average of 11 months.
The team, led by Dr. Ray Rajotte and including transplant surgeon James Shapiro, Dr. Jonathan
Lakey and Dr. Greg Korbutt, injected insulin-producing cells from donor pancreases into the
eight patients, aged 29 to 53.
Such a procedure has been tried before by doctors in other countries but this marks the first
time patients have been completely freed from insulin injections.
Shapiro told a meeting of the American Society of Transplant Surgeons and the American
Transplantation Society in Chicago this week that the patients have all done well since their islet-
cell transplants. They continue to show no signs of damage from high blood sugar.
All the patients have had diabetes since childhood and were selected for the procedure because
they had difficulty controlling their blood sugar with insulin injections. The needed up to 15
injections a day and lived under the constant threat of blackouts.
Shapiro said a new immune-suppression drug called Rapa mune, which became available in the
United States last year, was crucial to the new treatment.
It can be given in low doses and does not appear to have some of the side effects of most
immune suppressants.
Joanne Langner of the Alberta Foundation for Diabetes Research, which has provided $1.8
million for the islet-cell transplant trial, said the results are amazing.
"This is extremely exciting for diabetics everywhere," Langner said. "There's a definite
improvement in the quality of life for these individuals."
Langner said she's met most of the patients and all have told her the best thing is being able to
live normal lives.
"Even being able to sleep in late is a novel experience for them," she said.
Neither Shapiro, who is still out of the country, nor his colleagues in Edmonton were available on
Wednesday.
They have a paper ready to be published in the prestigious New England Journal of Medicine,
which traditionally imposes a strict news blackout on anything it publishes until the day of
publication.
But word of the talk in Chicago by Shapiro, who is originally from England, leaked out in the
British press Wednesday.
The U of A medical faculty fielded calls all day Wednesday from diabetic patients from Britain
seeking more information on the new treatment.
The actual transplant is about a 15-minute, day-surgery procedure involving injection of the cells
into the portal vein, the main vein connected to the liver.
The cells migrate to the liver where, even though they are in a different organ, they take root and
produce sufficient insulin to meet the patients' needs.
Unfortunately, said Langner, the treatment won't be available to many patients right away
because the treatment relies on organ donation. It takes two donor pancreas to supply enough
islet cells for one transplant procedure.
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Janet ,
We, who are not so savvy at digging up the nitty=gritty news,
do appreciate your efforts on our behalf.
Nice selection ...
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Hi YH and All,
I think just telling us there are all of these PD related Pub Med
postings is enough to post here. Janet posted the mini-abstracts
and the "numbers" (ie:PMID: 10791094; UI: 20251690) so that we
would be able to search for the full text if we're so inclined.
For info on how Pub Med works and how to access these papers
go to: (WWWeb Resources)
http://www.geocities.com/janet313/pienet/wwweb/index.html
and look for page 06 - Library of Medicine On-Line and scroll down to
the Pub Med stuff.
That's where to look 'n Janet gave us a *headsup* on what to look for...
The rest is up to you... All the best ...... murray
On 18 May 2000, at 17:37, YH wrote:
> Janet,
>
> You might want to consider putting some comment and/or
> instruction as to what these information are and how
> to use them.
>
> Thanks Janet.
>
> YH
>
> --- janet paterson <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > Therapeutic effect of repetitive transcranial
> > magnetic stimulation in PD
> > Shimamoto H, Morimitsu H, Sugita S, Nakahara K,
> > Rinsho Shinkeigaku. 1999 Dec;39(12):1264-7.
> > PMID: 10791094; UI: 20251690
> >
> > Molecular mechanism of monoamine toxicity in PD
> > Jimenez del Rio M, Velez-Pardo C.
> > Med Hypotheses. 2000 Feb;54(2):269-74.
> > PMID: 10790763; UI: 20253830
> ......
> ......
> <snipped the rest>
>
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On 18 May 2000, at 23:11, E1 Mail Server (Ruth) wrote:
On 20/20 last night Michael Fox took a break to take a pill.It only took 5 minutes for his new pill to
work.Why am I not able to do this, 45 minutes is average on a good day if I haven/t eaten any
protien,Would like to hear from others ,How long are you off? How many times each day?
Ruth (56/45/?)
Hey Ruth,
That was TV! And we don't know what kind of *pill* MJF was poppin'!
Seriously, if I crush a standard Sinemet and take it with half 'n half
7Up and OJ I can feel the effect in about 10 minutes.
All the best ...................... murray
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Thanks Murray for the guidance.
As I am new to these information I have no idea how to
use them.
And thanks Janet for the effort. I appreciate.
--- Murray Charters <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Hi YH and All,
> I think just telling us there are all of these PD
> related Pub Med
> postings is enough to post here. Janet posted the
> mini-abstracts
> and the "numbers" (ie:PMID: 10791094; UI: 20251690)
> so that we
> would be able to search for the full text if we're
> so inclined.
>
> For info on how Pub Med works and how to access
> these papers
> go to: (WWWeb Resources)
>
>
http://www.geocities.com/janet313/pienet/wwweb/index.html
>
> and look for page 06 - Library of Medicine On-Line
> and scroll down to
> the Pub Med stuff.
>
> That's where to look 'n Janet gave us a *headsup* on
> what to look for...
>
> The rest is up to you... All the best ...... murray
>
>
> On 18 May 2000, at 17:37, YH wrote:
>
> > Janet,
> >
> > You might want to consider putting some comment
> and/or
> > instruction as to what these information are and
> how
> > to use them.
> >
> > Thanks Janet.
> >
> > YH
> >
> > --- janet paterson <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > > Therapeutic effect of repetitive transcranial
> > > magnetic stimulation in PD
> > > Shimamoto H, Morimitsu H, Sugita S, Nakahara K,
> > > Rinsho Shinkeigaku. 1999 Dec;39(12):1264-7.
> > > PMID: 10791094; UI: 20251690
> > >
> > > Molecular mechanism of monoamine toxicity in PD
> > > Jimenez del Rio M, Velez-Pardo C.
> > > Med Hypotheses. 2000 Feb;54(2):269-74.
> > > PMID: 10790763; UI: 20253830
> > ......
> > ......
> > <snipped the rest>
> >
> > __________________________________________________
>
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here's a koala hug just for today
cant do much else but koalas cling very tightly
judy
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>I received the teddy bear in the body plus an attachment.
>Ineeded that Hug today. Thanks.
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chuck
look very caaarefully for unicorns on that fence
sounds a great place to be
golf on tap
we have small spaces for seniors but not with ordinaces of that kind
enjoy your evenings
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>You said, hope the new apartment is suitable chuck
>no stairs is a great thing
>
>Actually it is a modest 3 BR house, but the backyard is adjacent to the
>second green at my golf club. I can't wait to step over the little
>redwood fence (less that one meter high) and practice short shots in the
>evenings, maybe even play a few holes. This senior small town within the
>city (It has its own ordinances, one of which is that emergency vehicles
>must turn sirens off when enering Kern City, as its called), has a
>population of just a thousand or so people.
>
>Love
>Chuck
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Bob, you said, (snip)
> BTW, I think that acupuncture has its place in medicine. It is a
> good
> pain-reliever, but it does not "cure" anything.
>
It is my understanding that our western medical science has no clear
understanding of why acupuncture relieves pain (only that this has been
clearly established). Until our science can unravel this mystery,
wouldn't it be more prudent to say that the western science of medicine
has not been able to validate claims that acupuncture has a therapeutic
effect in the treatment of illness?
BTW, acupuncturists would probably be the first to agree that they do not
"cure" anything, since, in my limited understanding, this treatment is
thought in the East to facilitate the body's natural healing powers by
unblocking some sort of energy flow necessary to proper health in the
affected area of the body. Perhaps this is what you meant by saying
acupuncture does not cure anything? (I'm really not trying to be a smart
a-- with this question as I have known physicians who emphasize that
drugs and surgery generally facilitate, but that the body "cures.")
Chuck
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Judy,
you said, "look very caaarefully for unicorns on that fence
sounds a great place to be
golf on tap
We don't have unicorns in Kern City, they are excluded by one of those
ordinances I mentioned, and must stop at the edge of senior section. Are
they really allowed in those small senior areas where you live? You said
your senior areas didn't have these types of laws, but if you can go
after the rabbits, surely you keep the horned ones from pestering your
seniors:-)
About to turn in at daughter's (first night of two week stay). Pat and I
went to our Thursday night couples meeting (sort of a 12 step meeting but
for alkies and family members) . Tired after long day of moving odds and
ends to storage while the moving company handled the big stuff, but went
to meeting anyway as I had traded my little toyota Carrola for big truck
and needed to get truck back to generous friend.
When we got to daughters an hour or so ago, our king size bed had
displaced their den furniture, it was put together and the linens in
place. Nice to have kids like this. Will have a good night's sleep, but
kicking myself for scheduling a new couple for mediation at 8:30 AM,
which is on the early side for this parkie to be at the office, let alone
with the sore muscles I'll have in the morning.
I better turn in.
Love
Chuck
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My apology to the list for inadvertently sending a post to the list that
was intended to be private. I hit reply and didn't realize the post was
going to the list until too late. I have been taking more than my share
of list time as it is, and won't belabor my apology, except to say my
face is a bit red as I type it.
Love
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Was it a live prgram? they might have cut some of his off time
Maryse
> On 18 May 2000, at 23:11, E1 Mail Server (Ruth) wrote:
>
> On 20/20 last night Michael Fox took a break to take a pill.It only took 5 minutes for his new pill to
> work.Why am I not able to do this, 45 minutes is average on a good day if I haven/t eaten any
> protien,Would like to hear from others ,How long are you off? How many times each day?
>
> Ruth (56/45/?)
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took 5 minutes for his new pill to
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on a good day if I haven/t eaten any
<br>protien,Would like to hear from others ,How long are you off? How many
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On Fri 19 May, Murray Charters wrote:
> On 18 May 2000, at 23:11, E1 Mail Server (Ruth) wrote:
>
> On 20/20 last night Michael Fox took a break to take a pill.It only took 5 minutes for
> his new pill to
> work.Why am I not able to do this, 45 minutes is average on a good day if I haven/
> t eaten any
> protien,Would like to hear from others ,How long are you off? How many times each day
> ?
>
> Ruth (56/45/?)
>
> Hey Ruth,
> That was TV! And we don't know what kind of *pill* MJF was poppin'!
>
> Seriously, if I crush a standard Sinemet and take it with half 'n half
> 7Up and OJ I can feel the effect in about 10 minutes.
>
> All the best ...................... murray
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>
Murray's Sinemet/Orange juice is the fastest that I have heard of
(I haven't tried it myself, because I am quite happy with mmy Madopar
Dispersible. These are soluble tablets , come in 100/25 and 50/12.5
size, and take about 20 mins to feel the effect. That leaves you 2 more
options: You can Stop the clock (which I suspect MJF did) OR - and this
is serious - I do it all the time - Anticipate the need for the next
tablet, and take the next tablet just before the old one starts to fade.
You have to know precisely how long your tablet lasts. It is the only
thing which enables me to remain fully active arfte 21 years of PD
--
Brian Collins <[log in to unmask]> (60/39/34)
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books are the compasses and telescopes and sextants and charts
which others have prepared to help us navigate the dangerous seas of human life
jesse lee bennett
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Bartleby
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About five years ago, we visited a site at Columbia University called
"Project Bartleby." Named after Herman Melville's short story
"Bartleby, The Scrivener," Project Bartleby was yet another online
library. What made Project Bartleby special, though, was that it was
one of the first online libraries to fully embrace the Web. Each
chapter of its books were individual Web pages with hyperlinks from
chapter to chapter. This is pretty standard today, but back in 1995
it was rather new (or at least it was rather new to ME!).
My only complaint about Project Bartleby back then was that its
shelves were pretty bare -- the site only offered 11 books that you
could read online.
What a difference 5 years makes! I visited Project Bartleby a few
days ago and discovered that not only does the project have a new Web
site, it contains a heck of a lot more online books, including --
brace yourself -- the 1914 Oxford edition of the Complete Works of
William Shakespeare! WOW!
You can find Project Bartleby -- now named, simply, "Bartleby.com" --
on the Web at
<A HREF="http://www.bartleby.com/">
http://www.bartleby.com/ </A>.
Bartleby claims that it is the "most comprehensive public reference
library ever published on the web." I couldn't agree more. The site
has four sections, and the books that are available, online, in each
of these sections is mind-boggling:
1. Reference ( http://www.bartleby.com/reference/ )
Included in this section is the Cambridge History of English &
American Literature (all 18 volumes), H.L. Mencken's "The
American Language: An Inquiry into the Development of English
in the United States," Thomas Bulfinch's "The Age of Fable,"
Fannie Farmer's "The Boston Cooking-School Cook Book," and
*MANY* more.
2. Verse ( http://www.bartleby.com/verse/ ).
This section includes anthologies such as "The Oxford Book of
English Verse" and "Yale Book of American Verse" as well as
volumes of works by Emily Dickinson, T.S. Eliot, Robert Frost,
A.E. Housman, John Keats, D.H. Lawrence, Carl Sandburg, and
DOZENS of others.
3. Fiction ( http://www.bartleby.com/fiction/ )
You can explore this one on your own, but suffice it to say
that Bartleby's fiction section includes works from F. Scott
Fitzgerald, Nathaniel Hawthorne, Sinclair Lewis, Herman
Melville (but of course!), and even Virginia Woolf (who
frightens me).
4. Nonfiction ( http://www.bartleby.com/nonfiction/ )
This section contains some of the seminal works in history,
from John Stuart Mill's "On Libery" and Thomas Paine's "Common
Sense" to Booker T. Washington's "Up from Slavery" and Albert
Einstein's "Relativity." The nonfiction section also includes
the complete inaugural addresses of every US President from
George Washington to Bill Clinton (and I am not ashamed to
admit that, despite the fact that I am one of the burliest
guys you will ever meet, Lincoln's Second Inaugural still
brings tears to my eyes. THAT MAN COULD *WRITE*!).
By the way, you can find the 1914 Oxford edition of the Complete Works
of William Shakespeare in the Verse and Fiction sections, or you can
just point your Web browser to
<A HREF="http://www.bartleby.com/70/">
http://www.bartleby.com/70/ </A>.
As I said earlier, what a difference 5 years makes. Bartleby.com is
truly the most comprehensive public reference library ever published
on the Web. If you are a college student who is just now starting to
write those english term papers that were due back in February, both
Bartlett's "Familiar Quotations" (man, Bartlett sure did say a lot of
familiar stuff) and Strunk's "The Elements of Style" are going to come
in handy. If you are looking for proof that men have NEVER asked for
directions, the story of Odysseus (in Homer's Oddysseys) should pretty
much nail that one down tight. And, if you know anyone who says "I
would prefer not to" a lot, Melville's short story "Bartleby" is for
you :)
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Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 05:55:32 -0400
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New Bug Loose in Computers, Experts Say
May 19, 2000 - A new virus is eating its way through computers, and this one is smarter and more destructive than the worldwide "Love Bug" plague that inspired it, experts say.
While the "Love Bug" was given away by the "ILOVEYOU" subject line of the e-mails that carried it, the new virus changes subject lines every time it is sent. It also destroys most of the files on the computers it infects.
"Each time the virus spreads, it mutates itself to evade detection," according to Symantec Corp., an anti-virus software maker in Cupertino, Calif.
The virus was detected at several large companies late Thursday, said Dave Perry, spokesman for another anti-virus software maker, Trend Micro Inc. in Cupertino. At one company, 5,000 computers were infected, said Perry, who would not identify any of the companies affected.
The subject line of an infected e-mail starts with "FW: " and includes the name of a randomly chosen attachment from a previous e-mail on an infected computer. The e-mail will have an attachment with the same name, but ending in ".vbs."
Clicking on the attachment will activate the virus. Like "Love Bug," it will send itself to everyone in the user's address book. It will then overwrite most files on the hard drive, rendering the computer useless until the operating system is reinstalled.
So far, Microsoft's Outlook is the only e-mail program the virus is attacking, said Anita Chen, a spokeswoman for Trend Micro. Microsoft has said it will next week make available a modification to Outlook that will warn users about suspect e-mail attachments.
The size of the virus's attachments are more likely to crash e-mail servers, experts said. The "Love Bug" had a small attachment, but crashed e-mail servers all over the world when it sent millions of copies of itself through the systems at once.
The "Love Bug" spread like an avalanche to millions of computers two weeks ago. Estimates of the damages caused range up to $10 billion, and investigators have questioned several people in the Philippines during the search for the author.
The relatively simple "Love Bug" virus was followed some hours later by slightly modified variants, posing as jokes or confirmations on Mother's Day gifts. None of the variants were very widespread.
Trend Micro's Perry said he hoped that increased awareness among e-mail users would hold back the spread of the new virus.
"Any time a virus hits a week after another virus, its potency is diminished," he said. "People tend to be a little more cautious."
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Copyright 2000 The New York Times Company
http://www.nytimes.com/yr/mo/day/news/financial/virus-ap.html
ps
i knew there was a good reason for my 'strange' ideas about microsoft!
janet paterson
53 now / 41 dx / 37 onset
613 256 8340 / PO Box 171 Almonte Ontario K0A 1A0 Canada
visit my website "a new voice" at: http://www.geocities.com/janet313/
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Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 06:08:25 -0400
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At 12:26 AM 2000/05/19 EDT, Mary Manfredi <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>Janet ,
>We, who are not so savvy at digging up the nitty=gritty news,
>do appreciate your efforts on our behalf.
>Nice selection ...
>mm
>
thank you mary
i thought it was interesting that this time,
after struggling with the 'new and improved' PubMed website,
i have finally conceded defeat in my desire to post all the pubmed abstracts about pd
163 in thirty days is becoming the normal 'barometer' reading there!
[of pd abstracts accepted by PubMed in the last 30 days]
three years ago it was only 20 or 30!
so as soon as i decided that posting the summary of same
would be the only realistic way to get any mention
of all this research into our list archives,
lo and behold,
i 'chanced' upon a simple-to-download text version
of what i had been arguing with for a month!
when will i learn
that these 'smacks upside my head'
are simply ways and means of grabbing my attention??!!??
i.e
no, not that way!
hey, i said not that way!
giannetta
who sometimes knows that nothing is left to chance
and
who sometimes forgets
janet paterson
53 now / 41 dx / 37 onset
613 256 8340 / PO Box 171 Almonte Ontario K0A 1A0 Canada
visit my website "a new voice" at: http://www.geocities.com/janet313/
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Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 06:48:31 -0400
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DON- Awesome how you said:
On Thu, 18 May 2000 09:07:06 -0700 Don McKinley <[log in to unmask]> writes:
> last night... 20/20 on MJF....
at times we did not know
> if he was me or me or him
That's how I feel-we PWP's
are connected,
like the blood of one family.
Ivan Suzman 50/39/36
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How about in the shower, you unlucky guy!
ivan
On Wed, 17 May 2000 12:13:07 -0500 doublea <[log in to unmask]> writes:
> Ivan,
> I feel I have lots of talents, but singing isn't close to being one.
> I do
> love to sing, but the last time I did... well let me tell you a true
> story -
> it was a beautiful spring day, and I was down in the lower pasture,
> where I
> caught my roping horse, Charlie (as in charlie horse, a real pain at
> times)
> I haltered him, and jumped up on him to ride him back to the barn to
> saddle
> him. I felt so great, I broke into a song.
> Charlie just broke in two, knocked me on top of a barbwire fence,
> drug me a
> few yards, and then kicked me in the head -
> 7 stitches, a broken jaw, and a very clear critique of my singing
> ability.
>
> thanks for the advice, but I will pass on singing in public again
> laughingly yours
> bob aka tex
^^^^^^ WARM GREETINGS FROM ^^^^^^^^^^^^ :-)
Ivan Suzman 50/39/36 [log in to unmask] :-)
Portland, Maine land of lighthouses deg. F :-)
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Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 06:37:55 -0400
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Ivan Suzman
c/o CureIt Productions
9 Range Street
Portland ME 04103
On Wed, 17 May 2000 13:17:06 EDT [log in to unmask] writes:
> Ivan,
> Please give me your complete address. I have (CUT)
> Bonnie
>
> In a message dated 5/17/00 3:11:32 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> [log in to unmask]
> writes:
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Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 06:31:48 -0400
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Hey Barb,
Yes! You're BACK on the List!
THANK YOU for fighting so hard to be with us!!
Now, your questions.
YOUR QUESTION #2:
Why the switch from Comtan to Tasmar?
I ask every PWP that I run into, who happens to
mention using Tasmar: Do you take 200 mg
per dose, 100 mg, or 50 mg (100 mg pills cut in half)?
The 200 mg dose might be too much for some people.
My liver enzymes are PERFECtly NORMAL.
I attribute my longer on-periods to
Tasmar. PLUS, Comtan does NOT
cross the blood-brain barrier, or so I
am told; whereas Tasmar DOES.
About fruit jelly with your pills:
I think that your pills can be taken
with applesauce also.
Or how about this:
This fall, I'll send you my famous Concord grape
jelly. THis spring's grape leaves look better than
ever, more abundant, lusher growth. My vines
are now ten feet high, and 30 feet long.
Any organic grape growers want to sponsor
a TELEVISION ad of me supporting grapes-
the natural way?? I gurantee you, my jelly
is OUTSTANDING!!
Ivan
On Wed, 17 May 2000 08:49:57 EDT Barbara Blake-Krebs <[log in to unmask]>
writes:
> Hi all... Recently during a hospital stay, two of my PD meds were
> changed:
>
> A. My agoniist -- Miirapex to Parlodel (Bromocriptine)
>
> B. My COMT -- from Tasmar to Comtan (Entacapone) 200 mg/dose
>
> I would like to know:
>
> 1. My understanding is that Comtan needs to be taken with
> each dose
> of Sinemet in order to boost the effectiveness of the Sinemet. Is
> there a
> window of time after takiing the Sinemet in which one may still
> benefit from
> taking the Comtan?
>
> 2. I take this pill generally in fruit jelly. It seems
> 'chalky' to
> me and I often find I have a reflux reaction or upset stomach (no
> matter what
> substance I use with it).. Is this very common with this med?
>
> thanks
>
> Barbara Blake-Krebs 59/44
> [log in to unmask]
^^^^^^ WARM GREETINGS FROM ^^^^^^^^^^^^ :-)
Ivan Suzman 50/39/36 [log in to unmask] :-)
Portland, Maine land of lighthouses deg. F :-)
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Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 03:47:52 -0700
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On 19 May 2000, at 5:55, janet paterson wrote:
> New Bug Loose in Computers, Experts Say
SNIP
> So far, Microsoft's Outlook is the only e-mail program the virus is attacking,
SNIP
> ps
> i knew there was a good reason for my 'strange' ideas about microsoft!
> janet paterson
>
Hi Janet and All,
Thanks for the info. Hopefully, we can avoid these bugs by being
extra vigilant when it comes to attachments and large unexpected
downloads. Like you, I try to avoid Microsoft. I use Pegasus e-mail,
(thankyou David Harris for a well behaved and very stable program)
and I use the Norwegian program Opera as my browser.
Incidently, Opera version 4 beta 4 is now available to download online at:
http://www.operasoftware.com
Opera just keeps getting better and better. I never use Netscape at
all anymore and I have removed Internet Explorer.
Getting back to bugs and e-mail.... If you should happen to delete
a download and it turns out your daughter sent you a file containing
jpeg pictures of your new granddaughter, don't sweat it... She'll resend
it.... Mine did... And next time she'll send me a *headsup* e-mail
first so I know what to expect.
Best regards ........ murray
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View the Parkinson's Awareness Links at:
http://www.geocities.com/janet313/pienet/wwweb/index.html
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Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 07:10:14 -0400
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At 03:47 AM 2000/05/19 -0700, murray wrote:
>On 19 May 2000, at 5:55, i wrote:
>> New Bug Loose in Computers, Experts Say...
> I never use Netscape at
>all anymore and I have removed Internet Explorer....
i still use netscape [and opera] for browsing
and eudora for mail
part of my 'strange ideas' about microsoft
involve my ongoing refusal to 'upgrade' from windows 3.1 to windows 95 or 98
which means i am still in 16-bit wonderland
patiently awaiting linux
so i have avoided Internet Explorer and Outlook Express and all those treasures
which the hackers love to target
[no comment!]
irregardless
i never open attachments anymore - they get automatically deleted
unless i am specifically expecting something
i have also been receiving a fair amount of trash e-mail lately
so my delete key is of prime importance!
janet
janet paterson
53 now / 41 dx / 37 onset
613 256 8340 / PO Box 171 Almonte Ontario K0A 1A0 Canada
visit my website "a new voice" at: http://www.geocities.com/janet313/
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Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 09:28:38 -0400
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Subject: NO Attachments
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Hi, Listmembers. Due to the spreading of current viruses, I suggest that
we not open ANY attachments from ANYONE. To participate in the parkinsn
list, attachments are unnecessary...this is a text-only medium so there is
no point in posting messages in the attachment format which also means
that there is not point in exposing our personal computers and those at
our workplace and the University of Toronto to the current viruses.
Please take a few moments to ensure that your email settings are "text
only" or whatever phrase your system uses to send text-only messages.
If a posting comes in the form of an attachment, please do not open it;
just delete it. We may miss something we would benefit from but we also
may miss something that would destroy the list. I am sure there will be
objections but...
Barb
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Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 09:32:31 -0700
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this will be short and sweet. M.J.F. in not diff from us. i thought all =
PWP'S wear smart just a little slow on he up take. did you think the =
news could just set there for 45min, and do nothing. they just fast =
tracked it up. as i used to video weddings. i would stop at times to =
same time and film but it looked fast. that is what took place. he =
postal took 45 min.
I.Y.Q. DON AND VIVIAN
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(review of ivan suzman's recent radio interview)
>
> ivan suzman has done it again!
> And this time on radio!
> And i know this is harder to achieve -
> on TV there is a set -- to make you look comfortable -
> so the odds are you are!
> On radio you are probably propped up on a stool, staring at a mike!
> Ivan is a natural conversationalist..
> The beginning of the interview saw Ivan at his usual high standard,
> imparting much knowledge yet keeping it interesting.
> But in the second half he seeemed to take off.
> I felt he was talking to me personally,
> yet i knew his message was getting across to thousnnds of listeners.
> ivan, you need your own talk show!
hilary blue
(51/33/24
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Bob and Joanne,
I agree with you 100%, Bob. In something like Bell's Palsy with it's
spontaneous recovery in most people I would think that anything as dramatic
as acupuncture has a tremendous placebo effect. As recovery occurs
spontaneously it reinforces the effect and expectation for further recovery.
Bell's Palsy is an ideal condition to demonstrate placebo response .
Jo Ann. I don't doubt your perception that you improved with Acupuncture.
At the same time I think that any proof that it works in a particular
illness or condition needs to be done in controlled double blind studies as
are proposed and being carried out by NIH. So many people are using unproven
and perhaps even dangerous that it is important that the wheat be separated
from the chaff.
It is my sense also from a lot of anecdotal reports that it may be a good
pain reliever but we will need to look at good studies to prove it.
Charlie
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert A. Fink, M. D." <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2000 9:35 PM
Subject: Re: People Interested in Alternative Medicine
> Date sent: Thu, 18 May 2000 20:18:32 EDT
> Send reply to: Parkinson's Information Exchange Network
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> From: Jo Ann Coen <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: People Interested in Alternative Medicine
> To: [log in to unmask]
>
> > I chose acupunture, which helped me get
> > over the paralysis quicker. So there are things that alternative
> > practitioners can help.
>
> Jo Ann,
>
> How do you know that the acupuncture made the Bell's Palsy clear up
> faster? I treat Bell's Palsy in my practice and there is really nothing
> that makes it get better any faster than the nerve takes to recover its
> function (which is not often total).
>
> The only way to really tell is to take an identical group of diagnosed
> patients and treat half of them with acupuncture and the other half
> with nothing.
>
> BTW, I think that acupuncture has its place in medicine. It is a good
> pain-reliever, but it does not "cure" anything.
>
>
> Best,
>
> Bob
>
>
> **********************************************
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> 2500 Milvia Street Suite 222
> Berkeley, California 94704-2636
> Telephone: 510-849-2555 FAX: 510-849-2557
> WWW: http://www.dovecom.com/rafink/
>
> mailto:[log in to unmask]
>
> "Ex Tristitia Virtus"
>
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Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 10:33:49 EDT
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Subject: Re: People Interested in Alternative Medicine
Bob Fink- Thanks for your reply. Do you think I may have just imagined a
faster recovery? And of course you are right about an incomplete
recovery. Mine occurred in 1992, and I still have some residual. My
left eye is slightly drooped and the left side of my mouth also. I've
practiced smiling so it's hardly noticable, but when I'm tired, it's
more obvious. I still can't drink soda out of a can, I have to have a
glass or cup. However, I'm much older than most patients who get it. I
went to a cosmetic surgeon , who said he wouldn't touch a patient who had
Bell's Palsy. Strange, huh? I've been told Bell's Palsy occurs when one
has been emotionally traumatized. Is this true?
Acupuncture did help me with one particular illness as long as I took the
treatments, but shortly after I stopped, my illness recurred.
Best wishes, Jo Ann from Houston
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Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 10:59:35 EDT
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Subject: listserv/archives
I have a question and need an answer right away please . It's almost an
emergency. But if people who are not on the listserv anymore can go into
archives and read any message posted for the last 30 days, can they get
into your personal mail also? Thanks to anyone who can answer. Jo Ann
from Houston
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Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 10:59:35 EDT
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Subject: Re: People Interested in Alternative Medicine
Juanita - Well! It seems we more in common that just loving a PWP.
Maybe you saw my reply to Dr. Fink, but I have to tell you, I went to an
acupuncturist and received some benefit, but when I realized I had
residual, I went to a cosmetic surgeon for repair, and he said he
wouldn't touch it. I didn't get a second opinion, because he explained
that when they tighten the skin in the eyes, it sometimes affects the
muscles. I know that occasionally I'll wake up with my eye not
completely shut and have to shut my eyelid with my hand. I also can't
drink soda out of a can, I need a glass or cup.
Oh well, at my age, what's the difference? Best wishes, Jo Ann from
Houston
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Only someone who had access to your password or a hacker can get past the
protection you must have on your isp account. It is one thing I learned on
Yahoo as my account was hacked there or someone passed information to
another. I was charged on my VISA for porn site visits that had nothing to
do with me and should have had nothing to do with Yahoo, but my Yahoo
account was compromised and I had to change both it and my VISA check card
numbers. It is serious once these happen to a person. Be careful who knows
passwords always.
*Seattle* Audrey
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From: " Jo Ann Coen" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Friday, May 19, 2000 7:59 AM
Subject: listserv/archives
> I have a question and need an answer right away please . It's almost an
> emergency. But if people who are not on the listserv anymore can go into
> archives and read any message posted for the last 30 days, can they get
> into your personal mail also? Thanks to anyone who can answer. Jo Ann
> from Houston
>
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Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 11:28:37 -0400
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Subject: Re: NEWS: eBMJ: Editorial: Depression in PD: letter: Depression
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Electronic response to:
EDITORIALS
Depression in Parkinson's disease
Hervé Allain, Stéphane Schuck, and Nicolas Mauduit
BMJ 2000; 320: 1287-1288
16 May 2000
Depression in Parkinson's disease
"Must be properly diagnosed and treated to avoid serious morbidity." [1]
"…doctors should ensure that it is diagnosed and properly treated." [1]
Um…. Why? Call me old-fashioned, but I thought that in modern medicine we diagnosed and treated things because doing so would produce some benefit.
But nowhere in the editorial by Allain and colleagues is there any reference to a study which suggests that treating what they call depression in Parkinson’s disease will do any good. Let alone that it will "avoid serious morbidity".
Call me lazy (you won’t be the first) but I’m not sure that I as a reader should have to go off and do my own research to find justifications for the management plan advocated by the author of an editorial. It would
have been quite nice to see just one reassuring citation which supported their proposal that treatment is of some use, but there is none. Instead there are a couple of worrying allusions.
Firstly, what they mean by depression apparently does not correspond to my own familiar drug-responsive
disease, lacking as it does all the negative distortions of thinking which are a core feature of the illness.
Secondly, they call for clinical trials to determine the risk-benefit ratios of drug regimens, which is
likely to set an old cynic like me a-wondering as to whether there actually are any benefits of these
selfsame regimens in the first place. Or not.
However their last paragraph does begin: "The depression associated with Parkinson’s disease must be
treated. " [1] So that’s OK then.
Tony Blair should double my salary. Tony Blair must double my salary.
Maybe there’s something in this exhortation business after all….
1. Allain H, Schuck S, Mauduit N. Depression in Parkinson’s disease. BMJ 2000;320 1287-8.
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Depression in Parkinson's disease
Hervé Allain, Stéphane Schuck, and Nicolas Mauduit
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15 May 2000
Olfactory disorder and Parkinson’s Disease
Dear Editor,
Aside from motor and cognitive deficits, Parkinson patients also manifest an olfactory deficit. Decrease of olfactory function and odor aversion have been reported among the first symptoms in patients with Parkinson's disease (PD) by several authors [1-3]. A large number of clinical studies have also reported that olfactory loss in idiopathic PD is bilateral, present in hemiparkinsonism, unrelated to the stage or clinical subtype of the disease, and independent of antiparkinsonian medication.[4] [2] The intranasal chemosensory trigeminal system seemingly was neither affected by the neuronal degeneration seen in PD nor by treatment with antiparkinsonian drugs.[2].
The olfactory vector hypothesis even suggests that the causative agent for PD enters the brain via the nasal route, however the reason for olfactory dysfunction may be more subtle. It has been proposed that the initial causative event in PD may start in the rhinencephalon (olfactory brain) prior to damage in the basal ganglia.[7] Steven van Toller the impacted of olfactory loss on the quality of life and described that the inability to detect odours, anosmia, can cause profound psychological effects resulting in feelings of physical and social vulnerability and victimization. In addition, there may be unhappiness related to the loss of the ability to detect pleasurable food smells and, as a consequence, anosmics may develop problems relating to eating. These profound effects arise from a condition which can have a rapid onset and a very poor prognosis for recovery, and are largely treated with a lack of sympathy and indifference by people with normal olfactory ability. [9] The!
se f
indings could be the basis of the depression and by solving this problem the score of the quality of life could improve.
In an animal experiment Fernandez-Ruiz et al [6] demonstrated that catecholamine replacement therapy leads not only to normal catecholamine levels, but also restored olfactory aversion. It was finally concluded from this study that catecholamine depletion of the amygdala is sufficient to produce a selective olfactory deficit, and that such a deficit can be reversed by adrenal medullary transplants. There was no human data available to us, although it would be very interessting.
1. Adler, C.H., K.A. Gwinn, and S. Newman, Olfactory function in restless legs syndrome. Mov Disord, 1998. 13(3): p. 563-5.
2. Barz, S., et al., Chemosensory event-related potentials in response to trigeminal and olfactory stimulation in idiopathic Parkinson's disease. Neurology, 1997. 49(5): p. 1424-31.
3. Doty, R.L., D.A. Deems, and S. Stellar, Olfactory dysfunction in parkinsonism: a general deficit unrelated to neurologic signs, disease stage, or disease duration. Neurology, 1988. 38(8): p.1237-44.
4. Liberini, P., et al., Olfaction in Parkinson's disease: methods of assessment and clinical relevance [In Process Citation]. J Neurol, 2000. 247(2): p. 88-96.
5. Doty, R.L., et al., Olfactory dysfunction in three neurodegenerative diseases. Geriatrics, 1991. 46 Suppl 1: p. 47-51.
6. Fernandez-Ruiz, J., et al., Adrenal medullary grafts restore olfactory deficits and catecholamine levels of 6-OHDA amygdala lesioned animals. J Neural Transplant Plast, 1993. 4(4): p. 289-97.
7. Hawkes, C.H., B.C. Shephard, and S.E. Daniel, Is Parkinson's disease a primary olfactory disorder? Qjm, 1999. 92(8): p. 473-80.
8. Levin, B.E. and H.L. Katzen, Early cognitive changes and nondementing behavioral abnormalities in Parkinson's disease. Adv Neurol, 1995. 65: p. 85-95.
9. Toller, S.V., Assessing the impact of anosmia: review of a questionnaire's findings. Chem Senses, 1999. 24(6): p. 705-12.
Andreas F P Temmel,
Christian Quint,
Josef Toth,
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NewsScan Daily, 19 May 2000 ("Above The Fold")
WORTH THINKING ABOUT: WHY WE DO WHAT WE DO
Neurologist Donald B. Calne says:
"Reason is a biological product -- a tool whose power is inherently and substantially restricted. It has improved how we do things; it has not changed why we do things. Reason has generated knowledge enabling us to fly around the world in less than two days. Yet we still travel for the same purposes that drove our ancient ancestors -- commerce, conquest, religion, romance, curiosity, or escape from overcrowding, poverty, and persecution.
"To deny that reason has a role in setting our goals seems, at first, rather odd. A personal decision to go on a diet or take more exercise appears to be based upon reason. The same might be said for a government
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See:
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> It is my understanding that our western medical science has no clear
> understanding of why acupuncture relieves pain (only that this has
> been clearly established). Until our science can unravel this
> mystery, wouldn't it be more prudent to say that the western science
> of medicine has not been able to validate claims that acupuncture has
> a therapeutic effect in the treatment of illness?
Chuck,
"Western medical science" has developed at least a fairly strong
hypothesis as to how acupuncture works. There are studies which
show that if one takes patients who achieve good pain relief from
acupuncture and then inject them with Naloxone, an opiate antagonist,
the pain returns immediately. Thus, it is believed that acupuncture
leads to pain relief by the stimulation of the release of the endogenous
pain-relievers (endorphins) inside our brains.
The above is not "gospel" yet, but it is a strong hypothesis.
Best,
Bob
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Dear Janet-- I think this is right on target---in my professional life as a
counselor I often told clients that actions were more determined by
emotions than by reason. Understanding that helps......
>NewsScan Daily, 19 May 2000 ("Above The Fold")
>
>WORTH THINKING ABOUT: WHY WE DO WHAT WE DO
>
>Neurologist Donald B. Calne says:
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But reason is only contributing to the 'how' portion of these decisions;
the more fundamental 'why' element, for all of these examples, is driven by
instinctive
>self-preservation, emotional needs, and cultural attitudes. We are usually
>reluctant to admit the extent to which these forces govern our behavior,
>and accordingly we often recruit reason to explain and justify our
>actions. "
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At 12:30 PM 2000/05/19 -0400, you wrote:
>Dear Janet-- I think this is right on target---in my professional life as a
>counselor I often told clients that actions were more determined by
>emotions than by reason. Understanding that helps......
yep
sadly, emotions are a 'no-go' zone for too many people
it is where we live
and who we are
janet
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> I went to a
> cosmetic surgeon , who said he wouldn't touch a patient who had Bell's
> Palsy. Strange, huh? I've been told Bell's Palsy occurs when one has
> been emotionally traumatized. Is this true?
I am not sure why the cosmetic surgeon rejected you. There are
procedures which can improve the cosmetic result.
The "classical" Bell's Palsy is the result of a viral infection which
causes swelling of that portion of the facial nerve which travels
through the middle ear (it is called the facial canal; or, in the old
terminology, the Fallopian canal [yes, old man Fallopius named that
structure as well as the female "tubes"]). Sometimes, if the Bell's Palsy
is caught at the very beginning, a surgery can be done which removes
bone over the facial canal and allows the nerve to swell without
compression, but it has to be done within a few hours of onset.
The "kicker" with Bell's Palsy is that you have to diagnose it properly.
There are many neurological conditions (some quite serious) which
can cause isolated paralysis of the facial nerve, and one has to make
sure that one is not dealing with one of those. One of the best ways
to make the differential (not absolute, but good) is to determine
whether there is preservation of taste function (sweet, sour, salty) on
the front portion of the tongue. If the taste sensation is lost on the
same side as the facial paralysis, it is most likely a classical Bell's Palsy.
Best,
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> part of my 'strange ideas' about microsoft
> involve my ongoing refusal to 'upgrade' from windows 3.1 to windows 95
> or 98 which means i am still in 16-bit wonderland patiently awaiting
> linux
Yeah, Janet, I was in your position, too, but when I finally had to
replace my computers last summer, I was forced to make the move to
WIN98. I loved WIN 3.1 and used it until then, but even this dinosaur
was pushed into the "modern world" lasy year. I won't use Outlook,
however; the few times that I have opened it to check something, it
has tried to take over my system and I have had to kick it hard to shut
it off.
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> Like you, I try to avoid Microsoft. I use Pegasus e-mail,
> (thankyou David Harris for a well behaved and very stable program)
I fully agree with Murray and also use Pegasus. The virus has let me
quite alone. I also have Norton anti-virus running :-)
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Brian....
From the moment I take a dose of my twice-a-day PD meds, it's at
LEAST an hour, or more likely an hour and a half, till I get to
that days "optimum results."
There are some days that no matter that the stars are favorable,
the moon is in the right quarter, I ate correctly, slept well
(with "well" meaning coupla-three hours of uninterrupted sleep)
the night before and STILL have just a plain ol "bad day." But
(WHEW!) thank goodness that doesn't happen TOOO often.
Barb Mallut
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From: Brian Collins <[log in to unmask]>
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>On Fri 19 May, Murray Charters wrote:
>> On 18 May 2000, at 23:11, E1 Mail Server (Ruth) wrote:
>>
>> On 20/20 last night Michael Fox took a break to take a pill.It
only took 5 minutes for
>> his new pill to
>> work.Why am I not able to do this, 45 minutes is average on
a good day if I haven/
>> t eaten any
>> protien,Would like to hear from others ,How long are you off?
How many times each day
>> ?
>>
>> Ruth (56/45/?)
>>
>> Hey Ruth,
>> That was TV! And we don't know what kind of *pill* MJF was
poppin'!
>>
>> Seriously, if I crush a standard Sinemet and take it with half
'n half
>> 7Up and OJ I can feel the effect in about 10 minutes.
>>
>> All the best ...................... murray
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>>
>Murray's Sinemet/Orange juice is the fastest that I have heard
of
>(I haven't tried it myself, because I am quite happy with mmy
Madopar
>Dispersible. These are soluble tablets , come in 100/25 and
50/12.5
>size, and take about 20 mins to feel the effect. That leaves you
2 more
>options: You can Stop the clock (which I suspect MJF did) OR -
and this
>is serious - I do it all the time - Anticipate the need for the
next
>tablet, and take the next tablet just before the old one starts
to fade.
> You have to know precisely how long your tablet lasts. It is
the only
>thing which enables me to remain fully active arfte 21 years of
PD
>--
>Brian Collins <[log in to unmask]> (60/39/34)
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Dear Listmembers,
I feel disgusted and very angry that , in this day of
the internet, and global marketing, that the
patient's access to time-tested, proven medications
is limited by crazy , self-serving, profit-making,
political and geographic turf wars.
Why are our valued medications, at this point in human history,
not available GLOBALLY? They should be!!!
Noting Brian Collins moving and MARVELLOUS 21st year of success in
living a productive and full life on medications only, and
noting that dispersible Madopar takes only 20 mins.
to take effect, I am frustrated that it is not available in the USA/
So I ask, impatiently, but with hope,
what can we as a world community do, to obtain
dispersible Madopar, globally??
OR, to put the question in another way, how can we learn
to apply PRESSURE effectively, upon the manufacturers?
Can we push Dupont to make SInemet,
and Athena to make Atamet, and Teva to make generic
carbidopa-levodopa, all ABSORBABLE within 15-20 minutes?
Or to we be forced to think of working in dangerous, unapproved networks,
linking us to the United Kingdom, to get Madopar??
Even at my best, my "off-periods" can often last 40 minutes,
no matter what I am able to do to prepare for them .or to avoid them.
Should any PWP have to wait unnecessary hours, every day,
in order to function?
Ivan Suzman
50/39/36
BRIAN COLLINS wrote, in part:
> >Murray's Sinemet/Orange juice is the fastest that I have heard
> of
> >(I haven't tried it myself, because I am quite happy with my
> Madopar
> >Dispersible. These are soluble tablets , come in 100/25 and
> 50/12.5
> >size, and take about 20 mins to feel the effect.
> >Brian Collins <[log in to unmask]> (60/39/34)
^^^^^^ WARM GREETINGS FROM ^^^^^^^^^^^^ :-)
Ivan Suzman 50/39/36 [log in to unmask] :-)
Portland, Maine land of lighthouses 63 deg. F :-)
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At 11:29 AM 2000/05/19 -0400, i wrote, in part:
>Electronic response to:
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>Hervé Allain, Stéphane Schuck, and Nicolas Mauduit
>BMJ 2000; 320: 1287-1288
>15 May 2000
>Olfactory disorder and Parkinson’s Disease
>Dear Editor,
>Aside from motor and cognitive deficits, Parkinson patients also
>manifest an olfactory deficit. Decrease of olfactory function and
>odor aversion have been reported among the first symptoms in
>patients with Parkinson's disease (PD) by several authors [1-3].
>A large number of clinical studies have also reported that olfactory
>loss in idiopathic PD is bilateral, present in hemiparkinsonism,
>unrelated to the stage or clinical subtype of the disease, and
>independent of antiparkinsonian medication.[4] [2] The intranasal
>chemosensory trigeminal system seemingly was neither affected by
>the neuronal degeneration seen in PD nor by treatment with
>antiparkinsonian drugs.[2].
>The olfactory vector hypothesis even suggests that the causative agent
>for PD enters the brain via the nasal route, however the reason for
>olfactory dysfunction may be more subtle. It has been proposed that
>the initial causative event in PD may start in the rhinencephalon
>(olfactory brain) prior to damage in the basal ganglia. ...
this was very interesting to me
some of you may know that i can attribute possible cause of my pd
to a head trauma, a pesticide exposure, and a rare virus
which all took place within one year in 1981 at my age 34
the pesticide was one called Baygon,
used in the caribbean outlawed in north america
prolonged exposure to it due to ignorance
caused my sense of taste to be profoundly affected for several hours
[and lord knows what else]
i also think that my lack of a lot of the more common secondary symptoms of pd
may also be attributable to the 'trauma' concept
as opposed to general deterioration/aging.
16 years after my first symptoms showed up
and 12 years after diagnosis and starting on levodopa
i can still appear to be "disease free" for hours at a stretch
[albeit with more and more careful med management as the years go by]
janet
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At 01:38 PM 2000/05/19 -0400, ivan wrote, in part:
>Dear Listmembers,
>Noting Brian Collins moving and MARVELLOUS 21st year of success in
>living a productive and full life on medications only, and
>noting that dispersible Madopar takes only 20 mins.
>to take effect...
>> >Murray's Sinemet/Orange juice is the fastest that I have heard...
this isn't news to me ivan
the so-called "sinemet soda" ? "sinemet shake" ? "sinemet smoothie" ?
- i forget the name -
but essentially sinemet dissolved in sweet juice or soda
has been mentioned here many times since 1996 i think
and has the benefit of very fast "kick-in" time
i.e. i get the best response out of sinemet dissolved in coca cola
[no financial interest - rats!]
if my stomach is empty, i can get the benefit of a good slug or two
in ten minutes easy
i'm sure there is a ton of info in the archives under 'liquid sinemet'
janet
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Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 11:15:54 -0700
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Folks,
Nonags (nonags.com) has a cleaner for the kak worm. check it
out under freeware anti-virus.
Marling
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> search * in parkinsn where subject contains 'liquid sinemet'
-> 81 matches.
Item # Date Time Recs Subject
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000611 94/06/22 23:07 33 Liquid Sinemet
000613 94/06/23 11:51 25 Re: Liquid Sinemet
000614 94/06/23 11:52 10 Re: Liquid Sinemet
000706 94/08/01 23:10 21 Liquid Sinemet Information
000713 94/08/04 22:19 26 Re: Liquid Sinemet Information
000714 94/08/05 00:39 37 Liquid Sinemet
000730 94/08/08 10:36 17 Liquid sinemet
000732 94/08/08 12:18 32 Re: Liquid sinemet
006249 95/10/21 09:08 72 Liquid Sinemet
006265 95/10/21 23:37 33 Re: Liquid Sinemet
006960 95/11/21 01:30 88 Re: LIQUID SINEMET
007001 95/11/22 06:47 109 Re: Does liquid sinemet exist?
007025 95/11/22 18:29 20 Re: Does liquid sinemet exist?
007107 95/11/27 10:45 11 Re: Does liquid sinemet exist?
007132 95/11/27 23:27 32 Re: Does liquid sinemet exist? YES
007134 95/11/28 02:32 44 Liquid Sinemet for Joyce
007151 95/11/28 23:31 30 Re: Liquid Sinemet for Joyce
007173 95/11/30 00:04 32 Re: Liquid Sinemet
007431 95/12/14 00:31 68 Liquid Sinemet
007808 95/12/31 09:30 13 Liquid Sinemet
007841 96/01/02 01:11 29 Re: Liquid Sinemet
008290 96/01/23 01:42 13 JOYCE TAMES/LIQUID SINEMET
008557 96/02/02 13:13 20 Liquid sinemet query
008562 96/02/01 08:17 17 Liquid Sinemet
009971 96/04/06 01:07 27 Container for Liquid Sinemet
009978 96/04/06 08:40 27 Re: Container for Liquid Sinemet
009987 96/04/06 18:47 18 liquid sinemet bottle
010023 96/04/08 17:41 55 Liquid Sinemet Containers
010026 96/04/09 08:03 30 Re: Liquid Sinemet Containers
010194 96/04/17 21:58 30 Liquid Sinemet and Permax
010220 96/04/19 09:21 24 Re: Liquid Sinemet and Permax
010298 96/04/23 06:02 20 re liquid sinemet
010301 96/04/23 09:50 25 Re: re liquid sinemet
010323 96/04/24 04:42 34 Re: re liquid sinemet
010346 96/04/25 02:36 33 Re: re liquid sinemet
010384 96/04/27 20:09 43 Re: liquid sinemet formula
010507 96/05/02 19:16 18 Permax, Liquid Sinemet
013172 96/08/10 07:31 19 Liquid Sinemet and exercise.
013207 96/08/11 15:35 24 Re: Liquid Sinemet and exercise.
013228 96/08/12 11:28 20 liquid sinemet info
013234 96/08/12 15:12 21 liquid sinemet info -Reply
013244 96/08/12 23:57 28 Re: liquid sinemet info
013315 96/08/15 01:50 23 Re: Liquid Sinemet and exercise.
020385 97/02/17 10:35 17 Liquid Sinemet?
020387 97/02/17 11:25 21 Re: Liquid Sinemet?
020398 97/02/17 18:16 21 Re: Liquid Sinemet?
020992 97/03/01 16:45 11 Re: Liquid Sinemet? archive search
021038 97/03/03 00:38 45 KURT >> Liquid Sinemet help
021085 97/03/04 09:45 30 Re: Liquid Sinemet
021097 97/03/04 14:39 11 Re: Liquid Sinemet
021107 97/03/04 15:25 31 Re: Liquid Sinemet
021147 97/03/05 17:18 16 Re: Liquid Sinemet
021268 97/03/09 10:14 18 SURVEY: Liquid Sinemet
021278 97/03/09 13:18 48 Re: SURVEY: Liquid Sinemet
022953 97/04/14 19:44 33 Re: Liquid Sinemet
025061 97/05/30 12:41 13 Re: liquid sinemet
030768 97/09/21 18:09 62 Liquid Sinemet/Response
030773 97/09/21 20:18 26 Re: Liquid Sinemet/Response
030786 97/09/21 22:41 36 Re: Liquid Sinemet/Response
030796 97/09/22 08:18 43 Re: Liquid Sinemet/Response
030797 97/09/22 07:32 36 Re: Liquid Sinemet/Response
030801 97/09/22 11:28 15 Re: Liquid Sinemet/Response
030804 97/09/22 16:01 52 Re: Liquid Sinemet/Response
030811 97/09/22 22:14 23 Re: Liquid Sinemet/Response
030815 97/09/23 00:00 24 Re: Liquid Sinemet/Response
030823 97/09/23 05:35 49 Re: Liquid Sinemet/Response
030825 97/09/23 07:33 46 Re: Liquid Sinemet/Response
030837 97/09/24 13:46 62 Liquid Sinemet
037784 98/02/17 11:02 68 Re: LEAH/ Liquid Sinemet
037787 98/02/17 11:01 19 Re: LEAH/ Liquid Sinemet
039803 98/04/02 12:44 84 Those on Liquid Sinemet
044694 98/07/11 16:01 12 Liquid sinemet
044745 98/07/12 12:27 33 Liquid Sinemet
045895 98/07/31 13:04 15 Liquid sinemet
045930 98/08/01 07:06 35 Liquid Sinemet/ Liquid everything
045987 98/08/02 14:20 12 Re: Liquid Sinemet/ Liquid everything
057507 99/03/20 11:05 24 liquid Sinemet
064468 99/07/27 11:40 44 Re: liquid sinemet
066295 99/08/20 17:37 50 Liquid Sinemet idea
066311 99/08/21 10:09 17 Re: Liquid Sinemet idea
073222 99/12/10 15:35 17 LIST: liquid Sinemet
here are instructions on retrieving them via e-mail from the archives:
1....send the following command message:
GETPOST PARKINSN xxxxxx xxxxxx xxxxxx
(where xxxxxx = the pieNET archive posting item number)
2....to the PARKINSN listserver command address:
<A HREF="mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A>
3....and bob's yer uncle! the listserver will send them to you within minutes!
janet paterson
53 now / 41 dx / 37 onset
613 256 8340 / PO Box 171 Almonte Ontario K0A 1A0 Canada
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YOU MEAN LOT OF YOU CAN NOT FIGURE THE TIME ON FOX. IT TOOK HIM AS MUCH =
TIME AS IT DOES US. THE JUST STOPPED TAPPING THEN STARED WHEN HE CAME =
BACK. HOW LONG I DO NOT KNOW 45MIN. 1 HR. THE CAN NOT HAVE DEAD AIR =
TIME. TO US IT WAS QUICK BUT TO THEM IT WS WHO KNOWS HOW LONG HAVEN'T =
YOU STARRED A POST THEN WHEN AND DONE SOME THING ELSE TO US YOU NEVER =
STOPPED. ME SOME TIMES IT WILL TAKE 1HR. TIMES RUN OUTS SO I GOT LOT OF =
RECONNECTING TO DO=20
I.Y.Q. DON AND VIVIAN
I KNOW ALL CAPS BAD BAAD DON
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Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 11:34:37 -0700
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Subject: Re: Returning to work after disability?
My "working after being declared disabled" story somewhat
parallels Sandra's experience with SSDI.
When I returned to work (out of my home in the online industry( my
MD AND my neurosurgeon told SSDI that I was still disabled and
would continue to be in the future. However. SSDI took away ALL
the benefits I'd earned (including Medicare, making it necessary
for me to be out-of-pocket each month for my health plan-HMO
membership to the tune of $162 a month for medical care, plus any
co-payments due for treatment or drugs. I also had to reimburse
the HMO for the 5 months that SSDI decided I was responsible due
to my being "CURED" of Parkinson's Disease! I kid you not - - -
that is what SSDI stated my condition to be!!!
It took my getting an SSDI specialist attorney (and if you're on a
second go round when you previously had been declared disabled by
SSDI, few SSDI specialist attorneys out there taking to take a
case on contingency for an applicant who's already "been there
done that," with SSDI.
Ultimately I got a terrific attorney service out of Chicago (thank
goodness for email!) who flew out to L.A. on the day I went back
to SSDI court 18 months after being "CURED" (I only WISH!!!!!) and
she was WONDERFUL!
I was returned all benefits and was awarded the amount I was out
of pocket (in excess of $9000 for the SSDI and another $4000 for
Medicare.
The kicker of this whole miserable and debilitating experience was
the fact that about 3 months *AFTER* SSDI had deposited the back
payments award to my checking account, they up and took over
$4000 back! If THAT isn't enough, they went into my personal
checking account yet ANOTHER time ad took another $4000 a coupla
months after the first time the hit my checking account!
I mean they LITERALLY went into MY PERSONAL checking account and
refunded to THEMSELVES!!
Upon phoning SSDI (in a total state of shock) to find out WHY and
HOW they took momey out of my checking account, I was more of less
told "Because." It was laso suggested that IF I din't cooperate
with SSDI, I would once again find myself without any SSDI
benefits!
I recognize it when I saw the handwriting on the way, and
begrudingly accepted that SSDI was doing some hanky-panky
SOMERWHERE In that behemoths, disorganized enterprise and I shut
up thereafter/
Was I angry? Is the Pope Polish?
Barb Mallut
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Date: Thursday, May 18, 2000 2:13 PM
Subject: Re: Returning to work after disability?
>Hi Camilla,
>
>Yes I was awarded disability and tried going back to work for
awhile. I was
>almost penalized for the time I worked. After my situation was
evaluated
>social security decided not to ask for a return of funds. I did
try working
>for a year, but then the pd was becoming debilitating to the
point there was
>no ONE day alike. I have not worked for 7 years now. Hope this
helps.
>
>Sandra Norris
>"Faith is the daring of the soul to go farther than it can see."
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hi all
this is one of the oldest and one of the best posts on liquid sinemet
and natch it's written by the late alan bonander
janet
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Post: 007001
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 1995
From: Alan Bonander
Subj: Re: Does liquid sinemet exist?
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Bbaum,
In a message dated 95-11-21 15:31:49 EST, you write:
<< Hi. Someone suggested to contact you for some information concerning
treatment of Parkinson's. Wonder if you have answers to my questions. My
80-year old plus father has an advanced form of Parkinson's. He has
tremendous difficulty swallowing Sinemet and at times even spits it out the
pills.
Answer: Have you tried crushing the pill and stir it in with apple souse?
This is a common trick used in rest homes when the patient is having
difficulty swallowing.
Question:
Is Sinemet also offered in liquid form or through IV?
If so, how does it pass the blood-brain barrier in liquid form? What dosage
does it come in? Are the reactions to liquid Sinemet different from tablet
form?
Thanks.
>>
Answer:
Liquid Sinemet is a name given to dissolved regular Sinemet pills. It is
made by the patient or caregiver and cannot be input through an IV. Here is
the recipe for Liquid Sinemet:
1 liter of "coffee grade" water
level 1/2 teaspoon of Vitamin C crystals (power form NOT pill form)
combination of regular Sinemet 25/100, Sinemet 25/250 and/or
Sinemet 10/100 pills such that the sum of the second numbers
(levodopa) equals 1000. Use of generric meds is acceptable.
Put the Vitamin C in the water followed by the pills. Shake the
mixture for about 5 seconds. Let it sit for about 5 - 10 minutes
and
shake it another 5 seconds. There will be pill material suspended
in the solution. This is the pill binding. The carbidopa and
levodopa have been completely dissolved along with the
Vitamin C. The pill binding may be filtered out by filtering the
solution through WHITE MILLETA brand coffee filters. Usually
one liter per filter.
The resulting solution contains 1 mg of levodopa per cc or ml of fluid.
A cc and a ml are the same.
Why go to all this work? When one swallows a pill and enough liquid the pill
ends up in the stomach. The pill has no value in the stomach, it must get
into the small intestine to get absorbed into the blood system. To do this
the pill is usually dissolved in the stomach fluids and than passed through
the pylorus valve. This valve prevents unprocessed food parts from entering
the intestine before ready. It all fails, this valve is known to open
somewhere between 30 min and 90 min after eating. However, the pylorus valve
does not shut completely. There is the possibility for liquid to pass
through even if closed.
Now you are starting to get the picture. I can take pills and get a random
time to take effect say from 20 min to 90 min. Or I could drink LS and
hopefully it will pass through the stomach and pylorus and directly into the
small intestine. This could take as long as 1 min. It is from the small
intestine that the medicine is absorbed into the blood and some of it
actually makes it to the brain. Now the Vitamin C was added for two reasons,
(1) Vitamin C acts as a preservative and (2) Vitamin C adds to the acidity
of the meds. This speeds up the processing of the medication.
Thus LS exists only in the patient's chemical factory (kitchen). You cannot
currently buy it. That is changing soon as Athena Neurosciences will be
coming out with power packets that contain the contents of either a 25/100 or
a 25/250 with the vitamin C already added and the pill binding gone. All you
need to do is put it in water. Don't hold your breath on this development,
but it is human trials currently.
Because LS passes through the system quickly, it seems to arrive harder (more
meds at one time) and thus have a shorter holding power. What this means is
that most people using LS take a drink hourly. The high frequency is
possible as you can decide the medication level to the mg of levodopa. This
is done by drinking that number of cc that equals the desired mgs. If the
patient is currently taking a Sinemet 25/100 every 3 hours, than they will
need about 33 1/3 cc every hour.
Now it turns out that a "shot" is one ounce of liquid which is about 30 cc.
Thus in the above case, the patient could start by drinking a "fat" shot of
LS every hour. A "Jigger" is 1 1/2 ounces or 45 cc. That is very close to a
half of a xx/100 pill. Believe me if you put away the shot glasses because
you gave up "drinking" when PD entered your life,. well, dig them out. They
will come in handy.
That is a quick run down on liquid sinemet. Will it help your dad? Possibly
if he is able to keep liquids down. One thing that can be done is to make
the dose of liquid Sinemet have more taste. Some add Tang to it, others use
OJ. I do not like Tang and OJ as it is too acidic for me. The best fluid to
use that I know of is Ginger Ale. You want a sweet fluid that will be easy
on the stomach and nice on the palit. So drink the LS and follow it with
about two ounces of Ginger Ale.
I hope I have answered your questions.
Regards,
Alan Bonander
Age 55, Diag 11 yrs, liquid meds, pallidotomy
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janet paterson
53 now / 41 dx / 37 onset
613 256 8340 / PO Box 171 Almonte Ontario K0A 1A0 Canada
visit my website "a new voice" at: http://www.geocities.com/janet313/
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Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 15:13:58 -0400
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Subject: PMID: 10799657: Protective effect of L-Deprenyl against apoptosis
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Protective effect of L-Deprenyl against apoptosis induced by okadaic acid in cultured neuronal cells.
L-Deprenyl, an irreversible MAO-B (monoamine oxidase B, EC 1.4.3.4) inhibitor, is used for the
treatment of Parkinson's disease and to delay the progression of Alzheimer's disease.
L-Deprenyl also exhibits protective effects against neuronal apoptosis which are independent of its ability to inhibit MAO-B.
The purpose of this study was to compare the antiapoptotic efficacy of L-deprenyl against different types of apoptotic inducers in three neuronal cell culture models.
The level of apoptosis was quantified by measuring the activation of caspase-3 enzyme, which is the main apoptotic executioner in neuronal cells.
MTT [3- (4,5-dimethylthiazol-2-yl) -2,5-diphenyltetrazolium bromide] and LDH (lactate dehydrogenase, EC 1.1.1.27) assays were used to demonstrate the cytotoxic response of apoptotic treatments.
Our results showed that okadaic acid, an inhibitor of protein phosphatase 1 and 2A, induced a prominent increase in caspase-3 activity both in cultured hippocampal and cerebellar granule neurons as well as in Neuro-2a neuroblastoma cells.
Interestingly, L-deprenyl offered a significant protection against the apoptotic response induced by okadaic acid in all three neuronal models.
The best protection appeared at the concentration level of 10(-9) M.
L-Deprenyl also provided a protection against apoptosis after AraC (cytosine beta-D-arabinoside) treatment in hippocampal neurons and Neuro-2a cells and after etoposide treatment in Neuro-2a cells.
However, L-deprenyl did not offer any protection against apoptosis caused by serum withdrawal or potassium deprivation.
Okadaic acid treatment in vivo is known to induce an Alzheimer's type of hyperphosphorylation of tau
protein, formation of beta-amyloid plaques, and a severe memory impairment.
Our results show that the okadaic acid model provides a promising tool to study the molecular basis of Alzheimer's disease and to screen the neuroprotective capacity of L-deprenyl derivatives.
Suuronen T, Kolehmainen P, Salminen A
University of Kuopio, P.O. Box 1627, FIN-70211, Kuopio, Finland
Biochem Pharmacol 2000 Jun 1;59(12):1589-1595
PMID: 10799657
"http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov:80/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=10799657&dopt=Abstract"
janet paterson
53 now / 41 dx / 37 onset
613 256 8340 / PO Box 171 Almonte Ontario K0A 1A0 Canada
visit my website "a new voice" at: http://www.geocities.com/janet313/
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Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 15:14:17 -0400
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Subject: PMID: 10778622: Effect of selegiline on cognitive functions in PD
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Effect of selegiline on cognitive functions in Parkinson's disease.
BACKGROUND: Selegiline hydrocholoride, a selective MAO-B inhibitor is known to improve motor functions in Parkinson's disease (PD).
The present study was undertaken to study the effect of selegiline on memory and intelligence of PD patients.
MATERIAL AND METHOD: 32 patients of PD were divided in two groups: selegiline group (n = 17) received 10 mg selegiline per day and control group (n = 15) did not receive selegiline.
Patients receiving trihexyphenidyl and selegiline were excluded. All other treatment remained unchanged.
All patients were examined at baseline and after three months for change in UPDRS score, WAIS score, memory test and P300.
RESULTS: Patients in selegiline group had less severe disease (UPDRS score 24.11 +/- 14.07) as compared to controls (UPDRS score 40.53 +/- 18.52).
There was significant improvement in UPDRS score (p < 0.05), WAIS (p < 0.001) and memory (p < 0.001) in selegiline group.
In the control group there was a significant prolongation of P300 latency (p < 0.05).
CONCLUSION: The study suggests that selegiline improves memory functions and intelligence in PD patients in addition to motor functions.
It also prevents prolongation of P300 latency which is a marker of cognitive function.
J Assoc Physicians India 1999 Aug;47(8):784-6
Dixit SN, Behari M, Ahuja GK
Department of Neurology, All India Institute of Medical Sciences, New Delhi.
PMID: 10778622, UI: 20241090
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janet paterson
53 now / 41 dx / 37 onset
613 256 8340 / PO Box 171 Almonte Ontario K0A 1A0 Canada
visit my website "a new voice" at: http://www.geocities.com/janet313/
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Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 17:25:56 -0400
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I sent a message to Michael J Fox at the email address on his (under
construction)website, and got this from the autoresponder (just like the
White House ! ) I've noticed that some folks have posted messages to him
on PIEN--do we really know he reads us??? In any case, he did a great job
on 20/20 and I wanted to suggest that he have links to PIEN and CARE on his
website. BTW-- this was the same mesaage I got when he first announced
that he would have a site, so I don't know what "in the next few months"
means so far as the site being ready. It should be a good additional
resource.
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>Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 16:11:44 -0400 (EDT)
>From: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Thanks for your support
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Precedence: bulk
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> Thank you very much for contacting me through my new website. My family
>and I are extremely grateful for your warm wishes and support. Although it
>is still under construction, we expect to have my official website up and
>running within the next couple of months. Please check back soon.
>
> I am excited about the opportunity we have to cure Parkinson's disease.
>Advances in research could soon ease the burden for the more than one
>million Americans living with Parkinson's, and achieving the cure is
>literally a matter of time. Hopefully, the Michael J. Fox Foundation for
>Parkinson's Research, along with the work of other organizations, will
>significantly reduce our wait.
>
> Donations can be sent to:
>
>Michael J. Fox Foundation for Parkinson's Research
>840 Third Street
>Santa Rosa, CA 95404
>
>Thank you again for your support.
>
>Best wishes,
>
>Michael J. Fox
>
Camilla Flintermann, CG for Peter 82/70/55
Oxford, Ohio
http://www.newcountry.nu/pd/members/camilla/one.htm
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also, on PDWebring at
http://members.tripod.lycos.nl/genugten/flinterm.htm
"Ask me about the CARE list for
Caregivers of Parkinsonians ! "
And visit the CARE webring at
http://www.crosswinds.net/~caregivers/index.html
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At 05:25 PM 2000/05/19 -0400, you wrote:
>I sent a message to Michael J Fox at the email address on his (under
>construction)website, and got this from the autoresponder (just like the
>White House ! ) I've noticed that some folks have posted messages to him
>on PIEN--do we really know he reads us??? In any case, he did a great job
>on 20/20 and I wanted to suggest that he have links to PIEN and CARE on his
>website. BTW-- this was the same mesaage I got when he first announced
>that he would have a site, so I don't know what "in the next few months"
>means so far as the site being ready. It should be a good additional
>resource.
i don't know if he reads us
but a little bird with a big mouth whispered to me
that he might could have been a member at one time or another
in the not too distant past, possibly, i think, maybe
i think i mentioned a few days ago
that another little bird suggested to me that mjf's site
would have a grand opening on may 24th which just happens to be victoria day in canada
janet
janet paterson
53 now / 41 dx / 37 onset
613 256 8340 / PO Box 171 Almonte Ontario K0A 1A0 Canada
visit my website "a new voice" at: http://www.geocities.com/janet313/
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chuck
i no longer play leapfrog even with my beloved grand divas
nor do i leap metre high fences for any reason so consider myself safe from
the vagaries of unicorn horns
dick and i live on a small acreage just south of brisbane (about 20 minutes
south) we hope to remain here for about 5 years and then move to a less
strenuously demanding abode
our seniors areas are scattered amongst other residential areas i think but
we havent gone into our next move yet
hares.....rabbits are a nono here..... come to us for their gastronomic
delight about midnight and when we go dancing they greet us as we return
about 11 pm
we feed various varieties of birds, possums and bats
it is a truly heavenly venue but requires some effort to keep it looking
beautiful
your life sounds busy still but interesting
mediation for all sorts of acrimony???
enjoy your visit with the family
we are buying a kitten today for a ninth birthday gift for ally
she is beside herself with excitement as is her mum
she's such a *madam*
only child of single mum.. indulged and loved, old beyond her years and a
delight to her grandparents
she is confirming her baptismal vows tonight so we need to be there too
then off dancing
one of my sadnesses is that dancing may be curtailled if i have pd
however one step at a time and we do while we can
love to you both
judy
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>
>Judy,
>you said, "look very caaarefully for unicorns on that fence
>sounds a great place to be
>golf on tap
>
>We don't have unicorns in Kern City, they are excluded by one of those
>ordinances I mentioned, and must stop at the edge of senior section. Are
>they really allowed in those small senior areas where you live? You said
>your senior areas didn't have these types of laws, but if you can go
>after the rabbits, surely you keep the horned ones from pestering your
>seniors:-)
>
>About to turn in at daughter's (first night of two week stay). Pat and I
>went to our Thursday night couples meeting (sort of a 12 step meeting but
>for alkies and family members) . Tired after long day of moving odds and
>ends to storage while the moving company handled the big stuff, but went
>to meeting anyway as I had traded my little toyota Carrola for big truck
>and needed to get truck back to generous friend.
>
>When we got to daughters an hour or so ago, our king size bed had
>displaced their den furniture, it was put together and the linens in
>place. Nice to have kids like this. Will have a good night's sleep, but
>kicking myself for scheduling a new couple for mediation at 8:30 AM,
>which is on the early side for this parkie to be at the office, let alone
>with the sore muscles I'll have in the morning.
>
>I better turn in.
>
>Love
>Chuck
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Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 22:24:32 GMT
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sorry all
i meant that to go privately
i am an amateur at this new vehicle
i forget to look at the *to* line
judy
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>Judy,
>you said, "look very caaarefully for unicorns on that fence
>sounds a great place to be
>golf on tap
>
>We don't have unicorns in Kern City, they are excluded by one of those
>ordinances I mentioned, and must stop at the edge of senior section. Are
>they really allowed in those small senior areas where you live? You said
>your senior areas didn't have these types of laws, but if you can go
>after the rabbits, surely you keep the horned ones from pestering your
>seniors:-)
>
>About to turn in at daughter's (first night of two week stay). Pat and I
>went to our Thursday night couples meeting (sort of a 12 step meeting but
>for alkies and family members) . Tired after long day of moving odds and
>ends to storage while the moving company handled the big stuff, but went
>to meeting anyway as I had traded my little toyota Carrola for big truck
>and needed to get truck back to generous friend.
>
>When we got to daughters an hour or so ago, our king size bed had
>displaced their den furniture, it was put together and the linens in
>place. Nice to have kids like this. Will have a good night's sleep, but
>kicking myself for scheduling a new couple for mediation at 8:30 AM,
>which is on the early side for this parkie to be at the office, let alone
>with the sore muscles I'll have in the morning.
>
>I better turn in.
>
>Love
>Chuck
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Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 22:26:36 GMT
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chuck
i typed my apology , deleted your note
your apology came up as the next email next on my screen
what a hoot
judy
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>My apology to the list for inadvertently sending a post to the list that
>was intended to be private. I hit reply and didn't realize the post was
>going to the list until too late. I have been taking more than my share
>of list time as it is, and won't belabor my apology, except to say my
>face is a bit red as I type it.
>Love
>Chuck
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Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 22:43:05 GMT
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all
does exercise have the same effect for some
judy
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>Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 09:17:17 -0700
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>Date sent: Thu, 18 May 2000 23:37:13 -0700
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> > It is my understanding that our western medical science has no clear
> > understanding of why acupuncture relieves pain (only that this has
> > been clearly established). Until our science can unravel this
> > mystery, wouldn't it be more prudent to say that the western science
> > of medicine has not been able to validate claims that acupuncture has
> > a therapeutic effect in the treatment of illness?
>
>Chuck,
>
>"Western medical science" has developed at least a fairly strong
>hypothesis as to how acupuncture works. There are studies which
>show that if one takes patients who achieve good pain relief from
>acupuncture and then inject them with Naloxone, an opiate antagonist,
>the pain returns immediately. Thus, it is believed that acupuncture
>leads to pain relief by the stimulation of the release of the endogenous
>pain-relievers (endorphins) inside our brains.
>
>The above is not "gospel" yet, but it is a strong hypothesis.
>
>
>Best,
>
>Bob
>
>
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Bob - The taste sensation is what did me in. I had a TIA about 3 months
prior to that and I was frightened out of my wits, but my BP was being
controlled with meds. So when I couldn't taste sweet, sour, or salt, my
doctor diagnosed Bell's Palsy. The cosmetic surgeon to whom I went while
I was still in the healing stages, told me he wouldn't touch me. I
suppose I was so depressed from looking so ugly (I modelled at one time),
I don't know if he meant right then, or ever. I really do appreciate your
information, as well as input from others.
Jo Ann from Houston
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Barb M - Does your area have a TV program that caters to consumer
advocates? Did you write your attorney general?. It seems to me it is
illegal to go into someone's bank account, and it seems either illegal or
harrassment for someone to threaten you with cutting out your benefits.
Somehow, somewhere this "Big Brother" shit has got to stop. I wish you
the best in this, and even though it does not seem fair to me at least,
surely there is somewhere you can go for help. Can you tell that this
has made me angrier than "you know who" ever has? Jo Ann from Houston
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Re MJF and meds........Don's right.......they simply stopped the filming of
the interview, let
MJF take his medication and get back to his "normal" and then resumed the
filming of the interview....unless you were there, we have no way of knowing
whether the time in between taping for the meds to kick in was 5 minutes or
one or two hours......Joan Hartman
....
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> this will be short and sweet. M.J.F. in not diff from us. i thought all
PWP'S wear smart just a little slow on he up take. did you think the news
could just set there for 45min, and do nothing. they just fast tracked it
up. as i used to video weddings. i would stop at times to same time and film
but it looked fast. that is what took place. he postal took 45 min.
>
> I.Y.Q. DON AND VIVIAN
>
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Canadian identity 'stronger than ever'
Friday May 19, 2000 - Canada's culture is so deeply rooted, complex and unlike any other in the developed world that it is not at risk of being overwhelmed by that of the United States, says philosopher John Ralston Saul.
In a speech yesterday, cryptically entitled The Inclusive Shape of Complexity, Mr. Saul said Canada is steeped in a tradition of tolerance and restraint that has allowed it to weather crises that would have divided and crippled other countries.
He said it is important to look beyond the accepted definitions of culture and examine the very foundations of Canadian life and politics in order to see that Canada is entirely unique and well adapted to overcome even the most difficult situations.
Mr. Saul's speech opened The Canadian Distinctiveness into the 21st Century conference, a three-day meeting being held at the University of Ottawa.
Canadians are uniquely adapted to withstand the barrage of other, larger cultures and philosophies without buckling, Mr. Saul said, adding that Canadians are adept at encompassing the best elements of other cultures without compromising their own.
"Canadians have got used to living on several levels at once," he said. "This is an astonishingly sophisticated population. They are able to listen on a daily basis to things that actually have nothing to do with them, take them in, and go on and do something else. No American is asked to imbibe one thing and do another. Canadians do it almost effortlessly."
He said Canada has existed "on the margins of western democratic philosophy" and its traditional nation-state model, adding that Canadians should be proud of the country's legacy of flexibility and genuine non-violent democracy.
"This is the least European country in the world and the most American country in North America. It is a sign of great self-confidence that we can live with this complexity."
Working only from notes and speaking in equal measures of English and French for more than 45 minutes, Mr. Saul, who is married to Governor General Adrienne Clarkson, said Canada's tolerance is rooted in the 400 years that aboriginal, French and English peoples have worked together.
However, he said it is perhaps best highlighted by the decision in 1849 of the government of Lower Canada in Montreal not to use troops to quell riots against British rule. At the same time in Europe and in the United States, armies were frequently turned against their own people to suppress anti-government demonstrations.
"Since Confederation, this country has killed in civil strife approximately 85 people," he said, adding that Canada possesses all of the elements -- race, religion, socio-economic -- that "should have led to violent catastrophe. This is an extremely rare characteristic for a nation state. It is an astonishing that after 125 years, you can name them all -- all 85.
"Restraint was the element that (allowed) a place as complex as this to survive the civil strife that gripped the countries of Europe and our neighbours to the south," he said.
He later added: "Even the fact that we invented peacekeeping and have become experts in it is an example of our commitment and ability to find a new way."
Following his speech, Mr. Saul told journalists that it is important for everyone to interpret history through their own experiences as Canadians and not those of "monolithic cultures" of Europe.
"All I'm doing is providing the function which a writer is supposed to provide of reminding people practically, technically and factually of where it (this willingness to compromise) comes from, which then gives people tools to say 'This is why I'm a moderate,"' Mr. Saul said. And Canadians around the world are becoming increasingly comfortable with their identities, he added.
"I think Canadian culture -- both in the narrow sense and in the large sense -- is stronger than it has ever been," Mr. Saul said.
"The ability that Canadians have found to affirm themselves both in the formal cultural sense (books, etc.) is greater than it has ever been. ... But also their way of kind of thinking among themselves I think is very strong. They may not have found ways of enunciating it yet, but it is very strong."
James Baxter
The Ottawa Citizen
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janet paterson
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Hi "PIEN'ers" :
I betcha that if MJF had DIspersible Madopar, the
TV crews would have waited only 15 minutes. But
no, if they waited 45 minutes to resume the show,
you can bet your last dollar that all poor Michael
had was our trusty, dusty SLOW pills!
Hey, MJF, which did you have available? YOU
have our support as we struggle together, all
of us PWP's, for GLOBAL RELEASE of
unobtainable QUICK, liquid medicines!
Ivan
50/39/36
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> Re MJF and meds........Don's right.......they simply stopped the
> filming of
> the interview, let
> MJF take his medication and get back to his "normal" and then
> resumed the
> filming of the interview....unless you were there, we have no way of
> knowing
> whether the time in between taping for the meds to kick in was 5
> minutes or
> one or two hours......Joan Hartman
> ....
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Don McKinley <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Friday, May 19, 2000 9:32 AM
> Subject: LIST: M.J.F ON AND OFF
>
>
> > this will be short and sweet. M.J.F. in not diff from us. i
> thought all
> PWP'S wear smart just a little slow on he up take. did you think the
> news
> could just set there for 45min, and do nothing. they just fast
> tracked it
> up. as i used to video weddings. i would stop at times to same time
> and film
> but it looked fast. that is what took place. he postal took 45 min.
> >
> > I.Y.Q. DON AND
> VIVIAN
> >
^^^^^^ WARM GREETINGS FROM ^^^^^^^^^^^^ :-)
Ivan Suzman 50/39/36 [log in to unmask] :-)
Portland, Maine land of lighthouses deg. F :-)
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Uncertainty Principle
When we were young to see was to believe,
we knew that sand was white and water blue,
and then we found that colours could change hue,
and thought our younger selves a touch naive.
Now we have learned that time and life deceive,
that time relates, and life's reality
is Heisenberg deduced uncertainty,
no matter what our senses may perceive.
And so, again, we find ourselves at sea
watching the waves break on a narrow beach
wondering if tomorrow there will be
anything solid left within our reach
and will we find it in us to be brave
when we are called to ride the breaking wave.
Dennis Greene
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Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 21:09:26 -0500
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Dennis-I know that I'm supposed to be mindlessly entertaining myself but
I had to go & read your beautiful poem and frankly-it's so wonderful
that I'm literally gasping for breath. Your talent is such a gift to us
all. Also, Janet-not meaning to rain on your parade, but I think that
the MJFox Foundation website launches a day earlier-on Tuesday, May
23rd. I'm hoping that my info is correct as I have 2 interviews with 2
different TV stations on Wednesday May 24th, to coincide with his last
Spin City episode. Wish me luck!!
--
Joan E. Snyder 48/10
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Dennis - Did you compose that poem? It's great. Do it some more
Jo Ann from Houston
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Hi,
My husband has PD and has so much saliva in his mouth, he drools constantly
wetting the front of his shirts, and if he bends over it just comes right out
of his mouth. He said he cannot control it. Does anyone know if something
can be done about it.
Thanks in advance
Rose
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Shortly after my carpal tunnel operation, I met a trained Korean
acupuncturist who was also trained as a nurse in Western medicine. She
needled me for pain due to carpal tunnel in the other hand and
arthritis. I have had no pains from these sources since then, and that
was over ten years ago.
I was then working at the FDA, and I recall that about ten to twelve
years ago, the FDA did have a study on acupuncture and did find that
endomorphins were being releases from the punctured sites. Some info on
the subject should be available from FDA or/and NIH.
The philosophy of acupuncture is quite interesting too and if you could
see a map of acupuncture points, you would probably see a well
documented map that evolved over several thousand years.
I believe it could significantly reduce pain even to the point where it
can be used as a sole anesthetic in surgery.
Michel
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I don't know if he reads what we write on the list, but in an interview
he said he had done a web search and viewed all the sites he
could that had to do with PD. I suppose this to mean he knows
about the archives site as well as our personal sites.
Marling
51/5
still trying to laugh
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Rose,
Ask his doctor about Detrol or Ditripan. Mom takes Ditripan and it works
pretty well. Sometimes there's a problem late in the afternoon or evening or
when her medication wears off and she gets shaky. We tried Detrol, but Mom
has strange reactions to some meds, including this one. But, I'm sure you
know that what works for one PWP doesn't always work for another, so check
with his doctor and good luck.
Eleanor
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dennis
thank you for the reminder
sometimes i still feel like a six year old and behave like one and it is
refresshing and fun
however there is a reality isnt there
judy
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>
>Uncertainty Principle
>
>When we were young to see was to believe,
>we knew that sand was white and water blue,
>and then we found that colours could change hue,
>and thought our younger selves a touch naive.
>Now we have learned that time and life deceive,
>that time relates, and life's reality
>is Heisenberg deduced uncertainty,
>no matter what our senses may perceive.
>And so, again, we find ourselves at sea
>watching the waves break on a narrow beach
>wondering if tomorrow there will be
>anything solid left within our reach
>and will we find it in us to be brave
>when we are called to ride the breaking wave.
>
>
>Dennis Greene
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Hi.
In the PD Clinic I work in we try non medication solutions as a first
option.
Sucking a boiled sweet sometimes helps.
Conscious attention to swallowing (the swallow reflex is slowed as all
movements)
Using a sweat band on the wrist (looks better than a handkerchief and leaves
the hands free). This also acts as a cue eventually to remind the PWP to
swallow as they start to raise the wrist up to wipe the mouth.
Hope something here may help.
Mary
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> Hi,
> My husband has PD and has so much saliva in his mouth, he drools
constantly
> wetting the front of his shirts, and if he bends over it just comes right
out
> of his mouth. He said he cannot control it. Does anyone know if
something
> can be done about it.
> Thanks in advance
> Rose
>
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Dennis, what a deeply beautiful sonnet---a difficult and demanding form,
but seemingly so effortlessly achieved.
I hope others listmembers who enjoy poetry will visit your website where
you have gathered so many poems to share--it is well worth the trip---and
thanks for sharing this one!
Find more of Dennis' poetry at http://members.networx.net.au/~dennisg/
>Uncertainty Principle
>
>When we were young to see was to believe,
>we knew that sand was white and water blue,
>and then we found that colours could change hue,
>and thought our younger selves a touch naive.
>Now we have learned that time and life deceive,
>that time relates, and life's reality
>is Heisenberg deduced uncertainty,
>no matter what our senses may perceive.
>And so, again, we find ourselves at sea
>watching the waves break on a narrow beach
>wondering if tomorrow there will be
>anything solid left within our reach
>and will we find it in us to be brave
>when we are called to ride the breaking wave.
>
>
>Dennis Greene
Camilla Hewson Flintermann <[log in to unmask]>
http://www.newcountry.nu/pd/members/camilla/one.htm
also on PDWebring at :
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"...everywhere I go,
I find that a poet
has been there
before me..."
...Sigmund Freud
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Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 20:50:09 -0700
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Bob, you wrote (snip)>
Thus, it is believed that acupuncture
> leads to pain relief by the stimulation of the release of the
> endogenous
> pain-relievers (endorphins) inside our brains.
>
> The above is not "gospel" yet, but it is a strong hypothesis.
>
This is fascinating. I have wonderful experiences with endorphins as a
former marathon runner. After 4 to 8 miles of running I would experience
a "high" beyond anything alcohol ever provided, and even beyond the
effects of my limited experiences with drugs (such as a big needle full
of morphine I got for a kidney stone).
Several time during marathons I developed bleeding foot blisters, but
never noticed them till long after finishing the run.
We know that aerobic activity triggers the release of these very nifty
chemicals, probably related to the time when survival depended upon the
ability to happily run longer than whatever was chasing us, and these
folks were bare foot.
But why would a needle in a few very specific points on our anatomy
trigger brain chemical release? Do we have a hypothesis that includes
the reason these needles stimulate the release? Do our scientist give
any credence to the notion of pathways of energy (or whatever the
acupuncturists believe)?
Regards,
Chuck
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Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 20:42:01 -0700
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can anybody help
i wrote this but i can't find an email address for her. any ideas
on how i can find it. ivan gave me permission to ask.
> connie
> Dear Oprah
>
> > there are so many early parkinsons patients that are barely getting by
> > on social security disability that don't have the resources of a
> prominent
> > national figure like Michael J Fox. no national media has even reported
on
> > what so many early parkinsons have to go through to try and be
independent
> > and manage their own lives.their minds are sharp- yet due to the shaking
> or
> > stumbling many are discriminated against.
> > a good example is Ivan Suzman.here is a gentleman who has suffered
> > with p. d. for more than 11 years. he is a well educated gentleman who
> > went
> > from being a college anatomy professor to living on about $700 ssdi and
> > is still active in trying to get the message out that there are many in
> the
> > same circumstances.
> > he has done some local tv interviews and in april he did a radio
> > interview
> > at station WHOM 94.9 fm portland maine. april11.2000 at 5 am it is a
> very
> > good explanation of all the ramifications of young parkinsons patients.
> > you do so many wonderful shows on all subjects and since your
> > show with Janet Reno i think you could do a follw up so more people
> > will realise how it is for the ordinary person who is struck with
> > parkinsons.
> > it could happen to anyone.
> > i hope you will contact him and listen to a tape of his interview
as
> > you
> > are a person who is able to get messages across so well.
> > his address is
>
> phone -207-797-8488
> > Ivan Suzman e-mail--
> [log in to unmask]
> 9 Range Street
> Portland, Maine 04103-1135
>
> my interest in this suggestion is due to my husband having parkinsons
> disease and finding all i could in this regard. i was astonished at how
> different
> it is for the younger parkinsons than for us. we have social security
and
> medicare also a good secondary insurance. our coverage is excellent.
> the young pd patients often lose their jobs and have to hire an attorney
to
> get them declared disabled. when it does come it is a pittance and very
> hard to make ends meet. i really feel this should be a good show.
> sincerely
> Connie Tate phone- 909-337-2821
> 29745 Hook Creek Rd. e-mail [log in to unmask]
> p.o. box 1220
> Cedar Glen
> Ca. 92321
>
>
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
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Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 06:42:37 CDT
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Subject: virus/worm
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Folks, I am using a really nice little laptop I bought in Nov, and because i
caught the happy99 virus twice, i am pretty paranoid over viruses - I
thought. I am using a Jan 2000 version of McAfee to check for viruses, and I
do a complete scan every three or four days. With the recent talks about
worms on the list, I got even more paranoid and I signed up for a free 10
day trial program at mcafee.com - and found 2 worms which I hadn't caught
with my normal scans. The reason I was so concerned was that about 5 of my
keys weren't working - and I don't drink coffee so I knew I hadn't spilled
any on the keyboard. I would highly recommend that you get a new version of
the virus scan of your choice and run it. I hope I haven't passed this on to
anyone, and if I did, my apologies.
PS I normally won't open anything that comes as an attachment, so how I
caught these are anyone's guess
bob aka tex
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Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 05:42:17 -0700
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On 19 May 2000, at 22:16, Rose Rowton wrote:
> Hi,
> My husband has PD and has so much saliva in his mouth, he drools constantly
> wetting the front of his shirts, and if he bends over it just comes right out
> of his mouth. He said he cannot control it. Does anyone know if something
> can be done about it.
> Thanks in advance
> Rose
Hi Rose,
Dr. Calne mentioned this problem in his address to our AGM last week
and discussed treatment including botulinum toxin injections.
I looked on the NPF site and found this:
Drooling in Parkinson Disease: New Treatment, New Hope
http://www.parkinson.org/drooling.htm
Associated Links
http://www.parkinson.org/botulinum.htm
http://www.parkinson.org/texthtms/tbotulinum.htm
All the best ... murray
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Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 05:48:50 -0700
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On 19 May 2000, at 20:42, Constance Tate wrote:
> can anybody help
> i wrote this but i can't find an email address for her. any ideas
> on how i can find it. ivan gave me permission to ask.
> > connie
>
> > Dear Oprah
> >
SNIP
Hi Connie & Ivan,
I think you will find that most production companies do not accept
unsolicited scripts or script ideas.
Very few shows and even fewer stars maintain a public email address.
(Or at least an address they will admit to!) Consider how you would feel
about tens of thousands of people sending you email, and just how
upset you would be if you didn't get a prompt reply.
The facts of life are that you can rarely if ever send mail and expect a
personal reply from anyone in a major starring role whether it is on
television, radio or movies.
However, you can always send mail to the star in care of the production
company that produces the show that the star appears in.
Virtually all the production companies maintain a staff that reads and
answers mail for the program and the stars. Some personalities expect
that copies of all mail is sent to them, others will have copies of mail
sent to their own staff and still others will only read mail that someone
has deemed of special interest to the star.
Oprah is filmed in Chicago. Here is the address of the production co.
TVTalkShows.com:
Harpo Productions
P. O. Box 909715
Chicago, IL 60607
Oprah
Checking the address on the Internet I discovered that Oprah is an
exception to the above. She has a web site - Online With Oprah
http://www.oprah.com/
Click on Email on the lower left side...
http://www.oprah.com/email/email_landing.html
Show Suggestions
Let us know what you'd like to see Oprah talk about
http://www.oprah.com/email/reach/email_reach_suggest.html
Have a great idea for a future show? Please fill out the form below,
type in your suggestion, then click "send."
So send your mail! Someone will always read it and, who knows, you
may just get a personal answer from Oprah!
Best regards ........... murray
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Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 07:01:06 -0700
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well i got through but after all identifying necessary there waslittle
space for message so cut down a lot. this is reply
that came back. now i guess we pray someone picks out
our idea and goes with it.
connie
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> Thanks connie tate,
>
> This is just a quick note to let you know that your message went through.
>
> As you may have assumed, we get too many messages to answer personally,
but we
> do read them all. If a producer takes interest in what you wrote, you'll
> likely be getting a call or an email back. That could be soon or later on.
>
> We are grateful that you wrote to The Oprah Winfrey Show!
>
> Sincerely,
> The Oprah Online Staff
>
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Please remove our email address for your service, we get 120 new messages a
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Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 13:12:07 -0400
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At 12:13 PM 2000/05/20 EDT, you wrote:
>Please remove our email address for your service, we get 120 new messages a
>day & cannot deal with this at this time, please stop this communication.
>Thanks
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hi
you need to send a command message to the listserver from your e-mail address
just like you did when you subscribed to this service
no one else can do this for you
subscription instructions are always available on my website
janet
the list elfette
ps
i don't think our volume is anywhere near 120 messages per day
are you sure all of them are from parkinsn?
janet paterson
53 now / 41 dx / 37 onset
613 256 8340 / PO Box 171 Almonte Ontario K0A 1A0 Canada
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Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 13:28:15 -0400
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BIG ROCKS
One day an expert in time management was speaking to a group of
business students and, to drive home a point, used an illustration those
students will never forget. As he stood in front of the group of high
powered overachievers he said, "Okay, time for a quiz." Then he pulled
out a one-gallon, wide-mouthed Mason jar and set it on the table in
front of him. Then he produced about a dozen fist-sized rocks and
carefully placed them, one at a time, into the jar.
When the jar was filled to the top and no more rocks would fit inside,
he asked, "Is this jar full?" Everyone in the class said, "Yes." Then he
said, "Really?"
He reached under the table and pulled out a bucket of gravel. Then he
dumped some gravel in and shook the jar causing pieces of gravel to work
themselves down into the space between the big rocks. Then he asked the
group once more, "Is the jar full?" By this time the class was on to
him. "Probably not," one of them answered. "Good!" he replied.
He reached under the table and brought out a bucket of sand. He started
dumping the sand in the jar and it went into all of the spaces left
between the rocks and the gravel. Once more he asked the question, "Is
this jar full?" No!" the class shouted.
Once again he said, "Good." Then he grabbed a pitcher of water and began
to pour it in until the jar was filled to the brim. Then he looked at
the class and asked, "What is the point of this illustration?" One eager
beaver raised his hand and said, "The point is, no matter how full your
schedule is, if you try really hard you can always fit some more things
in it!"
"No," the speaker replied, "that's not the point. The truth this
illustration teaches us is: If you don't put the big rocks in first,
you'll never get them in at all." What are the 'big rocks' in your
life? Your children; Your loved ones; GOD; Your education; Your dreams;
a worthy cause; Teaching or mentoring others; Doing things that you
love; Time for yourself; Your health; Your significant other. Remember
to put these BIG ROCKS in first or you'll never get them in at all. If
you sweat the little stuff (the gravel, the sand) then you'll fill your
life with little things you worry about that don't really matter, and
you'll never have the real quality time you need
to spend on the big, important stuff (the big rocks).
So, tonight, or in the morning, when you are reflecting on this short
story, ask yourself this question: What are the 'big rocks' in my life?
Then, put those in your jar first."
Hugs, Gail Vass
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On 20 May 2000, at 12:13, anne light wrote:
Please remove our email address for your service, we get 120 new messages a
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Hi Anne,
All you need to do is send a two word message to the Listserv.
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: leave blank
Body: SIGNOFF PARKINSN
Just 2 words, no signature, no subject, and send it to the
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NOT to [log in to unmask]
(PARKINSN is for E-Mail Posts; LISTSERV is for Commands)
It is pretty simple, but computers are not intuitive,
so it must be exactly as stated........
all the best ......... murray
Ps: Alternately, you could go to John Cottingham's site
and just click on the SIGNOFF button....
(Remove My Name From PARKINSN Please) The site is:
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or
http://www.parkinsons-information-exchange-network-
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All you need to do is send a two word + your name message
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Just 2 words followed by the subcribers name,
in my case SUBSCRIBE PARKINSN Murray Charters
in your case SUBSCRIBE PARKINSN xxxxxx yyyyyyyy
no signature, no subject, and send it to the LISTSERV... not
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Use the computer that you want signed onto the List (the LISTSERV
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and just scroll down and click on the SUBSCRIBE button....
(Subcribe to PARKINSN Now)
For the real full tutorial you could go to Janet's web page at:
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and read at your leisure...
the subscriptions - the basics
subscription instructions: - the short version
subscription instructions: - the long version
Or..... you could read John Cottingham's subscription tutorial at:
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There are most of the options (there's also Simon's site)
http://james.parkinsons.org.uk/parkinsn.htm
Now what could be easier than that????
:-) ......... murray
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Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 13:37:58 -0400
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At 01:28 PM 2000/05/20 -0400, gail wrote:
>BIG ROCKS
i like this!
what about another analogy,
like where one's perspective is:
from inside the jar
or
from outside the jar?
janet
perceptions 'R' us
janet paterson
53 now / 41 dx / 37 onset
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Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 11:04:24 -0700
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To: [log in to unmask]
> But why would a needle in a few very specific points on our anatomy
> trigger brain chemical release? Do we have a hypothesis that includes
> the reason these needles stimulate the release? Do our scientist give
> any credence to the notion of pathways of energy (or whatever the
> acupuncturists believe)?
>
Chuck,
I am not sure as to where the theories about the "pathways of energy"
or "energy meridians" come from. If, however, the endorphin theory
of the way acupuncture works is true, then it should not matter
*where* the needles are placed. Don't know if this has been tested
yet or not.
Best,
Bob
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What is P-I-E-N-O?
P-I-E-N-O is the name of the Online version of the Parkinsons Information
Exchange Network. Barbara Patterson is our listowner and the University of
Toronto is the host of the listserv that distributes our messages. I am the
webmaster of the Online version.
The content of the P-I-E-N-O site was formerly on my personal pages in
Oklahoma. The Parkinsn Email Message page has been configured and
maintained by me since its inception last year. The Parkinsn Archive
Treasures pages, Parkinsn Current Topics Index and the Parkinsn's List Drug
Database have always fallen under the unbrella of Parkinson's Information
Exchange Network with the blessings of OUR "Woman of the Year"!
Parkinsn has been international in scope from its birth in November 1994.
It is perceived to be an American list...a Canadian list...an Australian
list but the outreach is geometric. We reach every part of our global village.
We each have so much to share.
Returning from Australia this year, I thought of the possibilities we have
together to hasten the cure, to improve the quality of our lives..waiting
and ways to reach those who need our information, support and even a kind
listening ear. My site was at its maximum limits and my budget was limited.
I researched my options and consulted with Barbara and asked for her
suggestion of a possible name for the new endeavor and
Parkinsons-Information-Exchange-Network-Online.com was the resulting
conclusion.
Who are the present users of the Parkinsn pages?
The logs show daily visitors from almost every country of the world. We are
linked to by several international medical schools and pharmacology
departments. Our information is found on all the major search engines of
the world. Every page is translated on the fly into several languages.
How is P-I-E-N-O different from the parkinsn mailing list?
P-I-E-N-O is now located at an international gateway, on a super fast
server, rather than being located at the crossroads of two dirt roads in
the heartland with once a week mail service. If in the unlikely event
P-I-E-N-O is inaccessible...listen to TV...cause California might have
fallen off into the Pacific Ocean..:) The time listed is Pacific Time.
P-I-E-N-O has the answers...if you have a question. Both the Online Message
page and the Current Topics Index page has a mail management center where
you can change or manage your parkinsn list mail by clicking on the
appropriate buttons. You don't have to remember hard to understand
instructions.
P-I-E-N-O has a smart search engine that updates daily the 770 plus files
on the P-I-E-N-O site which includes the contents of the last 500 messages
sent to the list. The old parkinsn site only had 50 messages and they were
not searchable. The message files are not made available to outside search
engine spiders. Winona is the only one I let through the gate. Results are
returned with the word you were searching for used in context.
You can check the P-I-E-N-O messages from any computer on the internet,
anywhere in the world. Subscription is required to post messages and
postings must come from the same mail account that you subscribed from.
If you travel with a notebook computer with a configured mail program you
can log on to any ISP and send messages to the list by modifying the SMTP
settings in the program to mail.thenameoftheISPyouareloggedinto. Your
messages will then be sent and accepted. Any replies with be in your pop
mailbox on your home ISP.
What is New at P-I-E-N-O?
1. Each page has the P-I-E-N-O logo at the top.
2. The entry point to P-I-E-N-O is at:
http://www.parkinsons-information-exchange-network-online.com
3. Listen to Dr. Rick Stell's "Demystifying the Neurological Examination
for Parkinsons" available in RealPlayer format as you read the transcript.
4. The background songs (midis) were remixed to play at a lower volume
level except on the main page.
5. The P-I-E-N-O message page refreshes every 7 minutes to display new
messages that may have come in during Rod McKuen's poetry in song. If you
hear nothing...when asked..click yes to install the free plugin. RealPlayer
requires you to go through three pages before finally letting you download
it..but keep clicking on the FREE link on each page... :) The realplayer
plugins are used on future pages with talks.
Where do we go from here?
I will be adding a calendar of events which I hope groups will use to
announce events in which they have an interest, which will allow others
sufficient time to attend.
Many in the Parkinson's struggle earn their livelihood from that struggle.
Cooperation to many groups means meeting and sitting at the same table
before governments requesting a pie..of which they desire a slice..to eat
in private.
P-I-E-N-O needs partners, of those who sit at the tables of power, to share
their factual information resources, so this noble international exchange
can deseminate it to the hopeful, Parkinson's world. That is our mission
statement.
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Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 14:06:15 -0600
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John, words nearly fail me. But not quite --
WOW!
Thank you !!!
This site is unbelievable. It's so fast now, and that really makes it
easy to use.
I don't think your work is often acknowledged, so let me just say that I
know it has been gargantuan. You have compiled an invaluable information
resource. This resource, being based on Woman of the Year Barb
Patterson's listserv, should put you in line for "Man of the Year." The
two of you are absolutely unbeatable!
I thank you for PIENO, and for your time, your work, and your unfailing
dedication to the cause of Parkinson's disease. You have truly made a
difference.
My very best regards, Homeboy --
Kathrynne
John Cottingham wrote:
>
> What is P-I-E-N-O?
--
Kathrynne Holden, MS, RD
Medical nutrition therapy for Parkinson's disease
Author: "Eat well, stay well with Parkinson's disease"
"Parkinson's disease: interview and assessment tools for nutrition
professionals"
"Risk for malnutrition and bone fracture in Parkinson'sdisease," J Nutr
Elderly. V18:3;1999.
http://www.nutritionucanlivewith.com/
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Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 15:11:01 -0500
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AMEN!!
Great site John. Thanks for all of your hard work.
Charlie
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From: "Kathrynne Holden, MS, RD" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2000 3:06 PM
Subject: Re: It's Official P-I-E-N-O is GO!
> John, words nearly fail me. But not quite --
>
> WOW!
>
> Thank you !!!
>
> This site is unbelievable. It's so fast now, and that really makes it
> easy to use.
>
> I don't think your work is often acknowledged, so let me just say that I
> know it has been gargantuan. You have compiled an invaluable information
> resource. This resource, being based on Woman of the Year Barb
> Patterson's listserv, should put you in line for "Man of the Year." The
> two of you are absolutely unbeatable!
>
> I thank you for PIENO, and for your time, your work, and your unfailing
> dedication to the cause of Parkinson's disease. You have truly made a
> difference.
>
> My very best regards, Homeboy --
> Kathrynne
>
>
> John Cottingham wrote:
> >
> > What is P-I-E-N-O?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Kathrynne Holden, MS, RD
> Medical nutrition therapy for Parkinson's disease
> Author: "Eat well, stay well with Parkinson's disease"
> "Parkinson's disease: interview and assessment tools for nutrition
> professionals"
> "Risk for malnutrition and bone fracture in Parkinson'sdisease," J Nutr
> Elderly. V18:3;1999.
> http://www.nutritionucanlivewith.com/
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Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 17:36:36 -0300
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See friends if this isn't interesting :
----
Emotional Disorder Is Linked to Smell
By ERICA GOODE , (N.Y. Times)
The sense of smell, as Marcel Proust
and his madeleine made clear, is
intimately tied to feeling and memory.
So it is perhaps not surprising that in
schizophrenia, an illness that plays havoc
with the emotional capacities of those who
suffer from it, the sense of smell is impaired.
People with schizophrenia often display what
psychiatrists describe as a "blunting" of
emotional response that makes it difficult for
them to relate to others. But they also,
researchers have found, show deficits in their ability to
detect, identify and
remember odors.
Now a new study, appearing in this month's American Journal of
Psychiatry, suggests that these abnormalities in the sense of
smell have
their root in abnormal brain structure.
Using magnetic resonance imaging, Dr. Bruce Turetsky, an
associate
professor of psychiatry at the University of Pennsylvania, and
his
colleagues examined the olfactory bulbs -- blueberry-sized
organs that act
as relay stations between the nose and brain -- in 26
schizophrenic patients
and 22 comparison subjects.
The bulbs of patients with schizophrenia, the researchers
found, were on
average 23 percent smaller in volume than those of control
subjects.
The discrepancy in size, said Dr. Turetsky, was large enough
that it was
clearly visible on the M.R.I. scans. And the difference
between the groups
persisted even after cigarette smoking, the use of
anti-psychotic
medications, age and other factors that might influence the
size of the bulbs
were taken into account.
The study, said Dr. Robert Bilder, associate director for
human research at
the Center for Advanced Brain Imaging of the Nathan Kline
Institute for
Psychiatric Research in Orangeburg, N.Y., is the first to
reveal, in
schizophrenia, a structural abnormality in more primitive
brain areas, which
are also involved in emotional processing.
"For the last 10 or 20 years," Dr. Bilder said, schizophrenia
researchers
have paid "an enormous amount of attention to the higher parts
of the brain
and the associated higher cognitive functions. This kind of a
study is
important in moving the focus to lower brain systems, that are
crucial to
the regulation of emotion and visceral functions."
Further investigation of the relationship between olfaction
and
schizophrenia, Dr. Turetsky said, may also help shed light on
the emotional
disturbances that are characteristic of the illness.
"Smell is so tightly linked to emotional processing," Dr.
Turetsky said. "It's
essentially impossible to present an olfactory stimulus that
doesn't have an
emotional valence to it."
The olfactory system offers scientists a unique window on both
normal and
abnormal brain functioning, in part because it is so clearly
laid out, with
sensory impulses traveling from receptors in the nose to the
olfactory
bulbs, where they are decoded, and then to olfactory centers
in higher
brain regions.
And the changes in olfaction observed in
schizophrenia, researchers believe, may
also
contain clues to how the disease
develops.
Many scientists suspect that
schizophrenia is
a neurodevelopmental disorder, a result
of
hereditary predisposition and some
environmental insult, perhaps occurring
during the early months of fetal growth.
Whether the smaller size of the
olfactory
bulbs in schizophrenia reflects abnormalities occurring early
in development
or stems from a degenerative process later in life is still
unknown, Dr.
Turetsky said. But, he pointed out, olfactory neurons, unlike
those in other
areas of the brain, die and are replaced throughout life,
displayinga
plasticity that makes the olfactory system relatively
resistant to
degenerative disease.
A loss of smell or abnormalities in odor identification or
detection is also
seen in some degenerative diseases, like Alzheimer's. The next
task facing
the researchers, said Dr. John Q. Trojanowski, a professor of
pathology
and laboratory medicine at Penn, is to show that the smaller
volume of the
olfactory bulbs is specific to schizophrenia and is not found
in other
illnesses, like manic depression, alcoholism or dementia.
Although scientist have been studying the brains of patients
with
schizophrenia for a century or more, no one appears to have
ever noticed a
difference in the size of the olfactory bulbs.
One reason, Dr. Trojanowski said, may be that early
researchers saw no
particular reason to pay attention.
"If you look at how the bulbs sit in the skull when you take
out the brain,
it's easy to leave them behind," Dr. Trojanowski said.
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Cheers ,
Joao Paulo - Salvador,BA,Brazil
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Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 13:49:53 -0700
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John, thank you for a wonderful resource!
Juanita CG for George 74 dx 98
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WelI was told 2 yr's ago I have Pd, they put me on Sinemet
cr , and then I was going to do the spect scan ,and then I said no ,I didn't
want any radiation in my boby, so then the DR. said well I dont think you
have pd , now they are diffrent Dr.'s here . So I thinking he said I dont
have PD because I wont take part in his study.1year later ,well I am not
happy with my neurologist, all he gives me are my meds ,and see you in
6moths, not good , Two days ago I went to a new neurologist, well he said
your to young to be on Sinemet cr thats for later in the PD , then he said I
don't think you have Parkinsons, go have the scan done that would tell you if
you do.
What to do ,now I 'am crying nobody to talk to about this , I
told my self I can't just sit on my --- this time ,and let things go I have
fight for my self . Two days on the phone , I found a
new DR. but now I pray I could get another referral from my DR.
I don't even want to take my
meds .
Audrey C
From CT.
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Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 17:22:47 -0400
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Oh John that's SUPER-- what a job! As usual, you are makinglife a lot
easier for us, and many many thanks!
Afterthought: HOW should we pronounce it? PEE-NO? PIE-N-O? As the
"father" of this miracle, you should get to decide!
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Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 17:30:38 -0400
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Dear Audrey-- no wonder you are upset---but I have to wonder just what the
scan is for? As you probably know, a CAT scan or MRI does NOT DIAGNOSE
PD. That is done "clinically", by the neuro looking at the way you look,
walk, etc. The scans are used to rule out other possible causes of your
symptoms. Have you seen a neuro who is a movement disorder specialist,
and sees A LOT of PWPs? Did the Sinemet seem to help you?
I don't know where you live, but you can CALL the APDA AND THEY CAN TELL
YOU THE NAMES OF MOVEMENT DISORDER SPECIALISTS NEAR YOU. HERE IS THE
NUMBER:
* The easy way to find a MOVEMENT DISORDER SPECIALIST is to dial
1-888-400-2732. This toll free number will ring in the American Parkinson
Disease Association Information & Referral Center.
* You can also email the Parkinson's Disease Foundation for a list of Movement
Disorder Specialists in your area. Their email is: <[log in to unmask]>
I'm glad you told the list about the problem, and I expect other folks will
have ideas too---keep in touch.....
*********
Audrey wrote:
> WelI was told 2 yr's ago I have Pd, they put me on Sinemet
>cr , and then I was going to do the spect scan ,and then I said no ,I didn't
>want any radiation in my boby, so then the DR. said well I dont think you
>have pd , now they are diffrent Dr.'s here . So I thinking he said I dont
>have PD because I wont take part in his study.1year later ,well I am not
>happy with my neurologist, all he gives me are my meds ,and see you in
>6moths, not good , Two days ago I went to a new neurologist, well he said
>your to young to be on Sinemet cr thats for later in the PD , then he said I
>don't think you have Parkinsons, go have the scan done that would tell you if
>you do.
> What to do ,now I 'am crying nobody to talk to about this , I
>told my self I can't just sit on my --- this time ,and let things go I have
>fight for my self . Two days on the phone , I found a
>new DR. but now I pray I could get another referral from my DR.
> I don't even want to take my
>meds .
> Audrey C
> From CT.
Camilla Flintermann, CG for Peter 82/70/55
Oxford, Ohio
http://www.newcountry.nu/pd/members/camilla/one.htm
<[log in to unmask]>
also, on PDWebring at
http://members.tripod.lycos.nl/genugten/flinterm.htm
"Ask me about the CARE list for
Caregivers of Parkinsonians ! "
And visit the CARE webring at
http://www.crosswinds.net/~caregivers/index.html
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Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 17:34:48 -0400
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From: Jim Dolan <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: PIENO
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I just subscribed to this list and missed the original post on this
subject. I assume it is a web site; would someone send me the url.
Jim Dolan
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At 05:22 PM 05/20/2000 -0400, you wrote:
>Oh John that's SUPER-- what a job! As usual, you are makinglife a lot
>easier for us, and many many thanks!
>
>Afterthought: HOW should we pronounce it? PEE-NO? PIE-N-O? As the
>"father" of this miracle, you should get to decide!
>
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Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 15:09:32 -0700
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Subject: Drooling
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We just saw the speech therapist regarding this problem.
She addressed the phelm(Spelling?) problem. Gordon coughs so much, also.
Gargling with salt water. Drinking water. We both seem to skip that over,
the famous 8 glasses a day. She has mouth and jaw exercises to do. We see
her next week and I'll send her ideas. T.L.Seese
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Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 18:11:12 -0400
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I suggest that you follow the doc's request for a scan or whatever - you
won't get enough radiation to hurt anything - Cecily, my wife, and I have
had catscans inumerable - MRI's and xrays of all sorts - I'm not saying
that there is nothing wrong with us but we haven't come up with any disorder
attributable to any radiation.
Bob Anibal
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From: "<Audrey Cashwell>" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2000 5:10 PM
Subject: DR.,and Parkinson's
WelI was told 2 yr's ago I have Pd, they put me on Sinemet
cr , and then I was going to do the spect scan ,and then I said no ,I didn't
want any radiation in my boby, so then the DR. said well I dont think you
have pd , now they are diffrent Dr.'s here . So I thinking he said I dont
have PD because I wont take part in his study.1year later ,well I am not
happy with my neurologist, all he gives me are my meds ,and see you in
6moths, not good , Two days ago I went to a new neurologist, well he said
your to young to be on Sinemet cr thats for later in the PD , then he said
I
don't think you have Parkinsons, go have the scan done that would tell you
if
you do.
What to do ,now I 'am crying nobody to talk to about this , I
told my self I can't just sit on my --- this time ,and let things go I have
fight for my self . Two days on the phone , I found
a
new DR. but now I pray I could get another referral from my DR.
I don't even want to take my
meds .
Audrey C
From CT.
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Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 15:26:50 -0700
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From: Gordon Seese <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Amount of mail
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Anne just left the list as she could not cope with the volume. Last Fall,
when we returned from vacation I did not reconnect the main list for 3
months.
has anyone ever suggested limiting the smount of messages from one person
per day? After all, every day there are multiple messages from the same
people.
We'll be leaving for 10 days in a few days.
I miss sparkle, but had to have the news.Maybe smiles are better, Piggies.
We'll see what I do when we return. T.L.SeeseCG Gordon 71/21
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Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 18:38:21 EDT
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This is nothing like an MRI.
AB-CIT-SPECT SCAN -is a radioactively drug injected into
your vein and binds to the dopamine neurons in your brain ,and this happens
for about 2 days till they do the scan.
Audrey C.
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Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 16:14:55 -0700
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AudreyC, you said you are unhappy with current treatment. Have you seen
a movement disorder specialist? This should be your next move if you
have not seen one previously.
You can always talk to all of us onthe list!
However you certainly need a definative diagnosis and a medication
program.
Good luck and a big hug to you.
Juanita CG for George 74 dx 98
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Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 16:14:12 -0700
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From: Marling McReynolds <[log in to unmask]>
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bob, and others,
Although you get a virus by opening an attachment, worms are
different. A worm is part of the e-mail itself, usually in the subject
or address. All you have to do is open the e-mail or even preview it
to get the worm. Some e-mail programs have a setting which
allows you to preview the first few lines of an e-mail before opening
it and this is enough to get a worm. Just set the program to NOT
preview.
I have McAfee with Vshield. It is always on and automatically
scans all e-mail before I open them. I have caught the
W/Script/kak.worm 4 times now off this list. Because of my
Vshield it was deleted before it could get into my computer.
I must tell you that it was so strange the first time it happened. I
was downloading my mail as usually and suddenly a pop screen
with a picture of a hand holding a wiggling bug was there telling me
that I had a worm.
It is almost sad that I am now beginning to get used to it.
And, yes, I was sent the happy99 virus last year too, but deleted it
as I do not accept attachments unless I really know what is there.
Good Luck folks
Marling
51/5
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Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 18:20:13 -0500
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The main address P-I-E-N-O is:
http://www.parkinsons-information-exchange-network-online.com
Everything branches from that one page.
>I just subscribed to this list and missed the original post on this
>subject. I assume it is a web site; would someone send me the url.
>
>Jim Dolan
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>
>
>At 05:22 PM 05/20/2000 -0400, you wrote:
>>Oh John that's SUPER-- what a job! As usual, you are makinglife a lot
>>easier for us, and many many thanks!
>
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Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 20:06:19 EDT
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From: tracy goodbar <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Any help for drooling ?
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My mother has had success with getting the little white cotton "rolls" that
the dentist uses when they work on your teeth. It's something she had to
get used to but she just sticks them in the corner of her mouth and changes
them out every 1/2 hour or so. She especially likes them for special
occasions, such as weddings, church, etc., where her drooling embarasses her
more than just being at home. She has only gotten them through her dentist,
300 or so at a time.
>From: Rose Rowton <[log in to unmask]>
>Reply-To: Parkinson's Information Exchange Network
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>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Any help for drooling ?
>Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 22:16:43 EDT
>
>Hi,
>My husband has PD and has so much saliva in his mouth, he drools constantly
>wetting the front of his shirts, and if he bends over it just comes right
>out
>of his mouth. He said he cannot control it. Does anyone know if something
>can be done about it.
>Thanks in advance
>Rose
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Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 20:18:57 -0400
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Audrey,
The one person, IMHO, that you must be comfortable with is your neuro. I know
from experience that going to a neuro who you don't like, don't have any
confidence in, or for whatever reason are not comfortable enough with to say
just about anything to needs to be replaced and quickly. My first neuro
couldn't figure out what I had and wound up nearly convincing me all my problems
were in my head and I donut mean physically. I waited two more years before
going to another neuro who is terrific and even though he is not a movement
disorder specialist has sent me to see specialists. He's even had his office
manager make the initial contacts for me. The right doctor for YOU can make all
the difference in the world. So keep slugging until you find what you want.
Insist on a referral if you have to, and if need be have another doctor
designated as your primary care physician. I would definitely wait for a second
opinion before taking that test seeing how you feel about it.
As for the meds, are they helping at all? If you think they are, by all means
continue (imh non-professional opinion) until you see the new doctor. You
might want to discuss meds with him before he sees you anyway to find out at the
very least whether or not he wants to see you medicated. Please see this new
guy as soon as possible. If you need another referral or just want
another opinion on what this test is all about, I suggest you the
npf site at http://www.parkinson.org/index.htm and then head to "ask the
doctor". I have found dr leiberman quite help
On a personal note as an old CT Yankee who missed the nutmeg state, I know that
there are some fine facilities in and around the state. All the more
reason to hang in there, don't get discouraged because you will find someone
good.
Don't let the doctors get you down. Remember.... all of their knowledge is
probably academic and come from observing not personally experiencing. (my
apologies, in advance, to the physicians on this list. I'm still having
trouble coming to terms with "what do you mean there is nothing else you can
do?/?"
Cathy
Audrey wrote in part:
WelI was told 2 yr's ago I have ..pd.... , I found a
> new DR. but now I pray I could get another referral from my DR.
> I don't even want to take my
> meds .
> Audrey C
> From CT.
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great site John.. Appreciate your hard and talented work.
Cathy
John Cottingham wrote:
> The main address P-I-E-N-O is:
>
> http://www.parkinsons-information-exchange-network-online.com
>
> Everything branches from that one page.
>
> >I just subscribed to this list and missed the original post on this
> >subject. I assume it is a web site; would someone send me the url.
> >
> >Jim Dolan
> >[log in to unmask]
> >
> >
> >At 05:22 PM 05/20/2000 -0400, you wrote:
> >>Oh John that's SUPER-- what a job! As usual, you are makinglife a lot
> >>easier for us, and many many thanks!
> >
> [log in to unmask] Search the parkinsn archive online at:
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Bob -
There are so many methods of alternative medicines, it would be hard for
the average person to keep up. But there are many different systems,
which believe in meridians, chockras, etc, which "they" describe as
energy points. For example, rolfing is one, Reiki
is another, kinesiology is one of the best. I truly know very little
about acupuncture, only that I had it done and thought I got better
faster. Also, with your permission, I could write you personally and
tell you of one time that I was much, much better as long as I did the
acupuncture, but after I stopped it, it came back. Don't give up on
alternative medicines yet. After having worked in hospitals 25 years
before changing careers to the real estate business, I learned that
doctors could not and would not even consider any medicine except what
they were taught in medical school. You probably know
that most physicians had only 4 to 8 hours on nutrition, and today
that has become a vital part in healing. Who's to say it is "that" thing
that cause healing and who's to say it is a placebo effect. I'm
here to say that what ever works, can't be criticized. Best wishes
Bob, I love your input. Jo Ann from Houston
here to
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i was reading a womans magazine lately and a man from south australia asked
for information on
multiple system atrophy
it was diagnosed firstly as parkinsons and he is asking for information for
himself and his wife who has the disease now correctly diagnosed
i think i saw a refernece to this some weeks ago but deleted as i wasnt of
interest to me
i have faxed him this website but would appreciat any help for him
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Gail Vass wrote:
BIG ROCKS
One day an expert in time management was speaking to a group of business
students and, to drive home a point, used an illustration those students
will never forget..........
Hi Gail - what a memorable way to teach a lesson we all need to know! Now if
I could only do that and 'accept the things I can't change, change those I
can and have the wisdom to know the difference' or words to that effect.
Thanx for sharing it
Sylvia
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>i was reading a womans magazine lately and a man from south australia asked
>for information on
>multiple system atrophy
>it was diagnosed firstly as parkinsons and he is asking for information for
>himself and his wife who has the disease now correctly diagnosed
>i think i saw a refernece to this some weeks ago but deleted as i wasnt of
>interest to me
>i have faxed him this website but would appreciat any help for him
>________________________________________________________________________
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Judy--- Here's some info that may help him---
You are invited to join the Multiple System Atrophy electronic mail
discussion list.
You'll find patients and caregivers sharing information on symptom
management and coping strategies for dealing with the various forms of MSA
which include Shy-Drager Syndrome (SDS), non-hereditary
Olivopontocerebellar atrophy (OPCA) and Striatonigral Degeneration (SND).
Anyone is welcome to join regardless of diagnosis. This list is sponsored
by David Robertson, GCRC at Vanderbilt University Medical Center. The list
manager is Sylvia Dickinson, RN.
To subscribe to the list:
Send an email to:
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We hope that this list will serve as a forum to exchange information and
support for those who are diagnosed with various forms of Multiple System
Atrophy, their families and friends as well as anyone who has an interest
in this disorder. Please send a message to the list (if you want to)
introducing yourself and any MSA related topic you would like to discuss.
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Parkinson's Report
National Parkinson's Foundation, Inc.
VOLUME XIX - ISSUE 2 / Spring 1998
Multiple System Atrophy
By members of the National Parkinson Foundation Center of Excellence at
Vanderbilt University, including David A. Robertson, Director, Nathan S.
Blaser
Shy-Drager Research Laboratories; Thomas L. Davis, Director, Movement
Disorder Clinic; and Ariel Y. Deutch, Director, NPF Center of Excellence
Although the cause of idiopathic Parkinson=EDs disease is unknown, Parkinson=
=EDs
disease is probably the best characterized of the neurodegenerative
disorders. The
loss of dopamine in the striatum is the major contributor to the disorder.
However,
there are several other neurodegenerative disorders involving several
different
systems in the brain, in which striatal dopamine loss is also found.
Among these other neurodegenerative disorders is multiple system atrophy
(MSA),
in which degeneration in diverse brain regions leads to problems in the
control of
movement, balance, blood pressure, and sexual and urinary tract function.
MSA is
often accompanied by some striatal dopamine loss and in certain patients
typical
parkinsonian symptoms are either the first noted or the most prominent.
A number of areas of the brain are involved by MSA. This has led to differen=
t
varieties of MSA receiving different names, depending on which area of the
brain
has predominant involvement. When MSA begins with imbalance, incoordination,
and difficulties in speaking (dysarthria), it is often called
olivopontocerebellar
atrophy; as the name suggests, this form of MSA is marked by degeneration
in the
cerebellum, a structure involved in balance and learned motor tasks. When a
patient
initially has rigidity (stiffness) and slowness in initiating movements
(bradykinesia)
that is out of proportion to tremor, this MSA form has been called
striatonigral
degeneration, involving communication between nerve cells in the striatum an=
d
midbrain. In patients in whom changes in autonomic function dominates the
initial
presentation, particularly changes in blood pressure regulation, the MSA
form is
often called Shy-Drager syndrome.
Between 25,000 and 100,000 American have multiple system atrophy. However,
many will not receive the correct diagnosis during their lifetime. This is
due to the
difficulty in differentiating MSA from other disorders (including
relatively common
degenerative disorders such as Parkinson=EDs disease and more rare ones such
as pure
autonomic failure). MSA usually occurs after age 50, with a slightly higher
incidence in males. Patients usually have autonomic nervous system dysfuncti=
on
first. Genitourinary dysfunction (difficulty with urination) is the most
frequent initial
complain in women, while impotence is the most frequent initial complaint
in men.
Orthostatic hypotension (a large drop in blood pressure upon standing) is
common
and may cause dizziness, dimming of vision, head or neck pain, yawning,
temporary confusion, slurred speech, and if the hypotension is severe, the
patient
may "faint" upon arising from a recumbent position. In spite of low blood
pressure
while standing, it is common for MSA patients to have high blood pressure wh=
en
lying down. A fall in blood pressure following meals or in hot weather or
following
infection is quite common.
When MSA begins with non-autonomic features, imbalance is the most common
feature. This difficulty in maintaining balance may be due to either
cerebellar or
Parkinsonian abnormalities. Some patients complain of stiffness,
clumsiness, or a
change in handwriting at the onset of MSA. The concurrent involvement in
MSA of
multiple brain systems subserving movement, including the striatum,
cerebellum,
and cortex, leads to the movement disorder as often being the most profound
disability. Hoarseness or even vocal paralysis are relatively common, as
are sleep
disturbances, including snoring and sleep apnea. The ability to swallow
foods and
liquids may be impaired.
The initial diagnosis of MSA is usually made by carefully interviewing the
patient
and performing a physical examination. However, more testing is often
needed to
confirm the diagnosis. Among the tests that are helpful in determining the
presence
of MSA are several types of brain imaging including computerized tomography
(CT) scans, magnetic resonance imaging (MRI), and positron emission tomograp=
hy
(PET). Pharmacological challenge tests (administering certain drugs in the
presence
of various types of movements of the patient) may also be of help. In those
patients
with typical parkinsonian signs, an incomplete and relatively poor response =
to
dopamine replacement therapy (such as l-dopa [Sinemet]) may be a clue that M=
SA
is present.
The characteristic involvement of multiple brain systems is a defining
feature of
MSA, and one that on autopsy confirms the diagnosis. Recently, several group=
s
have reported the presence of unusual inclusions in certain types of brain
cells.
These glial cytoplasmic inclusions are, as the name indicates, typically
found in glial
cells, which are the structural and metabolic support elements of the brain
but are
not neurons (nerve cells). Glial cells are central to maintaining the
correct balance of
ions in the brain, without which neurons cannot survive. Moreover, glial cel=
ls
express certain proteins that accumulate and thereby limit extracellular
excitatory
amino acids that can be toxic to neurons. These functions of glial cells,
coupled
with the presence of glial cytoplasmic inclusions in MSA but not Parkinson=
=EDs
disease, have sparked considerable research interest. It is noteworthy that =
a
different type of intracellular inclusion in nerve cells, the Lewy body, is
present in
Parkinson=EDs disease but not MSA.
In MSA, there is loss of function in the two divisions of the peripheral
nervous
system: the sympathetic and parasympathetic nervous systems. Although the
autonomic nerves themselves are largely intact, the brain loses its
capacity to
properly engage them to control the autonomic function. Consistent with the
involvement of many brain regions in MSA, the concentrations of many
neurotransmitters in the brain are reduced in MSA.
As with Parkinson=EDs disease, the cause of MSA remains unknown. Antibodies =
in
the spinal fluid of patients with MSA have been shown to react with a
specific area
in an experimental animal brain, raising the possibility that MSA may be
related to
an abnormality of the immune system. It is also possible that MSA is due to
abnormal folding of some unknown protein. At this time, however, these
observations require independent confirmation in large groups of patients,
and the
relationship of such changes to specific symptoms in MSA remains unclear.
What is
clear is that there is a compelling need for research into the causes, and
hence
treatment and cure, of MSA and Parkinson=EDs disease.
MSA is a rare and sporadic disorder and available evidence does not support =
a
hereditary component to the disorder. Among more than 400 patients
evaluated at
Vanderbilt University Medical Center=EDs Autonomic Dysfunction Center during=
the
past 20 years, not one had a family member with MSA, although a number of th=
em
had family members with Parkinson=EDs or Alzheimer=EDs disease. While it is
possible
that a few of these family members diagnosed with Parkinson=EDs or Alzheimer=
=EDs
disease might have actually had MSA, available data strongly suggests that
MSA is
not inherited. In Parkinson=EDs disease there is a similar but not identical
situation,
with hereditary forms of the disease representing only a small minority of t=
he
patients; even in these patients, the disease process differs somewhat from
idiopathic Parkinson=EDs disease. There is no evidence that MSA is
contagious; we
have never observed people in the same house who developed the disease.
Given the relative rareness of MSA and the frequent misdiagnosis of the
disorder, it
is not surprising that there is a paucity of careful epidemiological
investigations of
MSA that allow one to identify predisposing environmental factors. Although
one
report raised the possibility of a small effect of exposure to
environmental toxins
and another report suggested a slight correlation with prior head injury,
these claims
have not yet been supported by other studies. In particular, MSA does not
appear
to be related to or caused by prior alcohol or drug abuse, poor nutrition,
or other
disease process earlier in life.
MSA may progress rapidly. Patients survive an average of nine years followin=
g
onset of illness; some patients live as much as twice this long. Current
treatment of
MSA is symptomatic. The most valuable agents to increase blood pressure are
fludrocortisone and midodrine. In addition, most patients with MSA derive so=
me
benefit from typical antiparkinsonian medications such as levodopa (Sinemet)=
,
dopaminergic agonists (pergolide and bromocriptine), and anticholinergic
drugs.
In summary, MSA is a severe neurodegenerative disorder of unknown cause. The=
re
is currently no cure for MSA, nor is there any therapy available that stops
or slows
the progression of the disease. At this time, treatment is aimed at
treating problems
as they arise, and thus requires careful monitoring of the patient by a
skilled and
experienced clinician with expertise in MSA.
The lack of specific treatments to cure or slow the progression of MSA is
disheartening to patients and their loved ones and caregivers. However,
exensive
research efforts aimed at advancing our understanding of MSA, Parkinson=EDs
disease
and other neurodegenerative disorders are in place, and we have enjoyed a
period
of very rapid advances in understanding of the pathophysiology of
neurodegenerative disorders. We can expect such advances to culminate in a
better
understanding and treatment for MSA and Parkinson=EDs disease over the next
decade.
Multiple System Atrophy
Olivopontocerebellar Atrophy
Striatonigral Degeneration
Shy-Drager Syndrome
Symptoms of MSA
difficulty with urination
impotence
orthostatic hypotension
gastric fullness
loss of sweating
frequent nighttime urination
imbalance
incoordination
hoarseness/snoring
muscle weakness
Parkinson=EDs Disease vs. Multiple System Atrophy: Observations Suggestive=
of MSA
Poor response to Sinemet
Low blood pressure on standing
Difficulty with urination
Use of a wheelchair
Loud snoring or loud breathing
Frequent nighttime urination
Treatment of MSA
Fludrocortisone (blood pressure)
Midodrine (blood pressure)
Sinemet (movement disorder)
Dopaminergic Agonists (movement disorder)
Anticholinergics (movement disorder)
Erythropoietin (anemia)
Camilla Flintermann, CG for Peter 82/70/55
Oxford, Ohio
http://www.newcountry.nu/pd/members/camilla/one.htm
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also, on PDWebring at
http://members.tripod.lycos.nl/genugten/flinterm.htm
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Caregivers of Parkinsonians ! "
And visit the CARE webring at
http://www.crosswinds.net/~caregivers/index.html =20
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Onderwerp: anyone who might know
>> information on multiple system atrophy <<
http://freepages.health.rootsweb.com/~charmayn/links.html
Hans.
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Dear friends---a non-PD friend has inquired on behalf for help for another
friend who is recovering from shingles and is in real distress, with
depression on top of the pain. His doc prescribes epidurals for him, but
he is fearful about how long it may take to recover and be free of pain.
I recall that there has been discussion of shingles on the lists, so am
wondering if anyone can share experiences that may be more encouraging than
the *5* years his doctor has quoted ? Please answer to me offlist , and
I'll pass it along. Thanks
Camilla Flintermann, CG for Peter 82/70/55
Oxford, Ohio
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John - am trying to access your site The ionet.net site says that it's moved
and it'll redirect to PIENO but Netscape can't find you. Where IS it? - Sylvia
John Cottingham wrote:
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>
> http://www.parkinsons-information-exchange-network-online.com
> http://james.parkinsons.org.uk
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dear john
the page comes up as cannot be displayed
maybe there is a mispelled address
connie
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> The main address P-I-E-N-O is:
>
> http://www.parkinsons-information-exchange-network-online.com
>
> Everything branches from that one page.
>
> >I just subscribed to this list and missed the original post on this
> >subject. I assume it is a web site; would someone send me the url.
> >
> >Jim Dolan
> >[log in to unmask]
> >
> >
> >At 05:22 PM 05/20/2000 -0400, you wrote:
> >>Oh John that's SUPER-- what a job! As usual, you are makinglife a lot
> >>easier for us, and many many thanks!
> >
> [log in to unmask] Search the parkinsn archive online at:
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Onderwerp: DR.,and Parkinson's
Audrey wrote:
>> This is nothing like an MRI. AB-CIT-SPECT SCAN -is a radioactively drug
injected into your vein and binds to the dopamine neurons in your brain ,and
this happens for about 2 days till they do the scan. <<
Hi Audrey,
From your post I understand that it is not sure yet you have PD, but you do
have Parkinsonian symptoms.
PD can not be diagnosed by ANY test or scan yet, so the neuro has to do that
mainly based upon the symptoms you have. And if you don't clearly have the
"standard" symptoms of PD, the neuro will not be able to make a clear
diagnose. There are however a few means to narrow it down and make the
suspected PD-diagnose a bit more reliable.
- the neuro gives you levodopa. If your symptoms respond positively, that
makes it more probable you have PD.
- you can have a SPECT scan. The binding %% of the radioactive agent with
the dopamine neurons also gives the neuro an extra indication in the dilemma
"PD, or NOT PD". There are several types of these "radioactive" SPECT scans.
The difference is in the diagnostic purpose they are used for and therefor
the used radioactive stuff differs. Some radioactive material has a short
time before it becomes inactive, some a longer period. Therefor in some
cases a SPECT can be done shortly (2 hrs) after the injection, in other
cases - like yours - two days later.
Although all these scans use radioactive material, all this material is
administered in such a low concentration, that it is very unlikely to have
any negative result on your health, eventhough two days may seem long to
you. And as an extra precaution during that time you get other meds, to make
sure the radioactive material binds ONLY to the dopamine neurons in the
brain and NOT to other organs like the thyroid gland. After the scan it only
takes a short period before ALL the radioactive material has been excreted
from your body by the kidneys.
Hans.
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I am stupefied with admiration for your combined work with the Great
Lady of the year. Your support is enabling a great many PWP to stand in
a warmer glow from your endeavors until the cure comes.
Gratefully,
Michel Margosis
'Carpe Diem'
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> You probably
> know that most physicians had only 4 to 8 hours on nutrition, and
> today that has become a vital part in healing. Who's to say it is
> "that" thing that cause healing and who's to say it is a placebo
> effect. I'm here to say that what ever works, can't be criticized.
I have much more training in nutrition than 8 hours' worth. And I
didn't go to a "special" school for it, either.
I do not decry people who "get better" after "alternative treatments".
But before I will accept a causative connection, it has to be proven
scientifically. I remember that someone pointed out the fact once that
of all convicted murderers on death row, virtually 100% were cigarette
smokers. Thus, one could say that cigarette smoking leads to murder.
Even scientific studies are occasionally proven false because of some
inherent bias. When I was in medical school, there was a disease
called Buerger's Disease (a disease of blood vessels which led to
gangrene and amputations) that was reported to be a disease of
"Jewish people of Eastern European origin". The occasional case
described in African-Americans was shrugged off as an anomaly.
Well, it was subsequently figured out that Dr. Buerger, when he wrote
his paper on the disease, was using patients from the Montefiore
Hospital of New York City; where most of the patients were "Jewish
people of Eastern European origin".
I will accept people's *observations*, but before I accept a
cause/effect relationship, I will require scientific proof.
Best,
Bob
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2500 Milvia Street Suite 222
Berkeley, California 94704-2636
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Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 23:44:09 -0400
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I never cease to be amazed at the ignorance of so many doctors. I suggest you
immediately seek an MD neurologist who is a Movement Disorder Specialist, and go
from there.
Good luck,
Michel
Audrey Cashwell wrote:
> WelI was told 2 yr's ago I have Pd, they put me on Sinemet
> cr , and then I was going to do the spect scan ,and then I said no ,I didn't
> want any radiation in my boby, so then the DR. said well I dont think you have
> pd , now they are diffrent Dr.'s here . So I thinking he said I dont have PD
> because I wont take part in his study.1year later ,well I am not happy with my
> neurologist, all he gives me are my meds ,and see you in 6moths, not good , Two
> days ago I went to a new neurologist, well he said your to young to be on
> Sinemet cr thats for later in the PD , then he said I don't think you have
> Parkinsons, go have the scan done that would tell you if you do.
> What to do ,now I 'am crying nobody to talk to about this , I
> told my self I can't just sit on my --- this time ,and let things go I have
> fight for my self . Two days on the phone , I found a new DR. but now I
> pray I could get another referral from my DR.
> I don't even want to take my meds .
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Dear Audrey:
I would appreciate more information, references and citations of this
technique. I only know of PET (Positron Emission Tomography) that can actually
scan the brain.
Michel
Audrey Cashwell wrote:
> This is nothing like an MRI. AB-CIT-SPECT SCAN -is a radioactively drug
> injected into your vein and binds to the dopamine neurons in your brain ,and
> this happens for about 2 days till they do the scan.
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Hello Everyone,
Helen Johns is my name. Last summer I noticed tremors in my right leg =
and right hand; I suspected Parkinsons. I was diagnosed (at age 60 =
years) on December 15, 1999 as being in the "early" stages. Eldepryl =
was prescribed, however, I opted to try nutritional/homeopathic remedies =
first. The homeopathic remedies are certainly more expensive than the =
meds (from a healthplan). I was told to avoid sugar, white flour, etc., =
and was able to do that for a few months and got bored with it. I've =
tried ENADA (NADH) without success and am now trying an antioxidant =
called Mycrohydrin and drinking some Sage tea. I also read that FAVA =
Beans are good for the dopamine in the brain. =20
I would be interested to have feedback from those of you who have or who =
are currently taking Eldepryl as to how effective it's been for you or =
what side effects you have experienced. Would also like to hear from =
those of you who have explored alternative options.
California State University San Diego is doing a study for Parkinsons =
involving a transdermal patch (dopamine agonist); I have been tested and =
hopefully will be accepted for the study.
My husband and I live 70 miles NE of San Diego in Julian (State =
historical town), elevation 4,000 feet. We moved here in December of =
'98. I took a 10 year retirement from Los Angeles County Department of =
Children and Family Services where I worked as a Children's Social =
Worker. The last four years of my job I worked from 4:00 p.m. to 2:30 =
a.m. doing immediate response child abuse investigations. I thought my =
handwriting was getting bad from writing up too many cases, now I =
realize it was the Parkinsons causing a deterioration of handwriting.
My hobby is breeding and showing Maine Coon Cats. I currently am a CASA =
(Court Appointed Special Advocate) volunteer for an abused child. =20
This is somewhat long so I'll quit now . . . thanks for listening.
Helen
http://home.earthlink.net/~pedropurrs/
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Hello Everyone,
Helen Johns is my name. Last summer I noticed tremors in my right leg =
and right hand; I suspected Parkinsons. I was diagnosed (at age 60 =
years) on December 15, 1999 as being in the "early" stages. Eldepryl =
was prescribed, however, I opted to try nutritional/homeopathic remedies =
first. The homeopathic remedies are certainly more expensive than the =
meds (from a healthplan). I was told to avoid sugar, white flour, etc., =
and was able to do that for a few months and got bored with it. I've =
tried ENADA (NADH) without success and am now trying an antioxidant =
called Mycrohydrin and drinking some Sage tea. I also read that FAVA =
Beans are good for the dopamine in the brain. =20
I would be interested to have feedback from those of you who have or who =
are currently taking Eldepryl as to how effective it's been for you or =
what side effects you have experienced. Would also like to hear from =
those of you who have explored alternative options.
California State University San Diego is doing a study for Parkinsons =
involving a transdermal patch (dopamine agonist); I have been tested and =
hopefully will be accepted for the study.
My husband and I live 70 miles NE of San Diego in Julian (State =
historical town), elevation 4,000 feet. We moved here in December of =
'98. I took a 10 year retirement from Los Angeles County Department of =
Children and Family Services where I worked as a Children's Social =
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a.m. doing immediate response child abuse investigations. I thought my =
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realize it was the Parkinsons causing a deterioration of handwriting.
My hobby is breeding and showing Maine Coon Cats. I currently am a CASA =
(Court Appointed Special Advocate) volunteer for an abused child. =20
This is somewhat long so I'll quit now . . . thanks for listening.
Helen
http://home.earthlink.net/~pedropurrs/
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Hello Everyone,
Helen Johns is my name. Last summer I noticed tremors in my right leg =
and right hand; I suspected Parkinsons. I was diagnosed (at age 60 =
years) on December 15, 1999 as being in the "early" stages. Eldepryl =
was prescribed, however, I opted to try nutritional/homeopathic remedies =
first. The homeopathic remedies are certainly more expensive than the =
meds (from a healthplan). I was told to avoid sugar, white flour, etc., =
and was able to do that for a few months and got bored with it. I've =
tried ENADA (NADH) without success and am now trying an antioxidant =
called Mycrohydrin and drinking some Sage tea. I also read that FAVA =
Beans are good for the dopamine in the brain. =20
I would be interested to have feedback from those of you who have or who =
are currently taking Eldepryl as to how effective it's been for you or =
what side effects you have experienced. Would also like to hear from =
those of you who have explored alternative options.
California State University San Diego is doing a study for Parkinsons =
involving a transdermal patch (dopamine agonist); I have been tested and =
hopefully will be accepted for the study.
My husband and I live 70 miles NE of San Diego in Julian (State =
historical town), elevation 4,000 feet. We moved here in December of =
'98. I took a 10 year retirement from Los Angeles County Department of =
Children and Family Services where I worked as a Children's Social =
Worker. The last four years of my job I worked from 4:00 p.m. to 2:30 =
a.m. doing immediate response child abuse investigations. I thought my =
handwriting was getting bad from writing up too many cases, now I =
realize it was the Parkinsons causing a deterioration of handwriting.
My hobby is breeding and showing Maine Coon Cats. I currently am a CASA =
(Court Appointed Special Advocate) volunteer for an abused child. =20
This is somewhat long so I'll quit now . . . thanks for listening.
Helen
http://home.earthlink.net/~pedropurrs/
[log in to unmask]
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Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 22:07:16 -0700
Reply-To: Helen Johns <[log in to unmask]>
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From: Helen Johns <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: NEW LIST MEMBER
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Hello Everyone,
Helen Johns is my name. Last summer I noticed tremors in my right leg =
and right hand; I suspected Parkinsons. I was diagnosed (at age 60 =
years) on December 15, 1999 as being in the "early" stages. Eldepryl =
was prescribed, however, I opted to try nutritional/homeopathic remedies =
first. The homeopathic remedies are certainly more expensive than the =
meds (from a healthplan). I was told to avoid sugar, white flour, etc., =
and was able to do that for a few months and got bored with it. I've =
tried ENADA (NADH) without success and am now trying an antioxidant =
called Mycrohydrin and drinking some Sage tea. I also read that FAVA =
Beans are good for the dopamine in the brain. =20
I would be interested to have feedback from those of you who have or who =
are currently taking Eldepryl as to how effective it's been for you or =
what side effects you have experienced. Would also like to hear from =
those of you who have explored alternative options.
California State University San Diego is doing a study for Parkinsons =
involving a transdermal patch (dopamine agonist); I have been tested and =
hopefully will be accepted for the study.
My husband and I live 70 miles NE of San Diego in Julian (State =
historical town), elevation 4,000 feet. We moved here in December of =
'98. I took a 10 year retirement from Los Angeles County Department of =
Children and Family Services where I worked as a Children's Social =
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handwriting was getting bad from writing up too many cases, now I =
realize it was the Parkinsons causing a deterioration of handwriting.
My hobby is breeding and showing Maine Coon Cats. I currently am a CASA =
(Court Appointed Special Advocate) volunteer for an abused child. =20
This is somewhat long so I'll quit now . . . thanks for listening.
Helen
http://home.earthlink.net/~pedropurrs/
[log in to unmask]
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Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 21:13:43 -0700
Reply-To: Constance Tate <[log in to unmask]>
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From: Constance Tate <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: virus
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my scan reported new member e-mail came three times in a row was bad. i dont
know if anyone else caught it. i just deleted it and dumped delete
file.
i think that is all i can do. i ran scan after and no viruses
found.
connie
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Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 00:20:45 -0700
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Subject: Re: Canadian editorial on the u s a
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On 20 May 2000, at 11:02, Wood Family wrote:
> I could use some help. a while back somebody posted an editorial from
> a Canadian news paper dealing with the association and interaction with
> the United States. I had it saved but lost it while cleaning out some
> trash after having been hit by a lighting strike. if any body has it
> and would be willing to share it with me it would be greatly
> appreciated. thanks for the assistance in advance.
> d. k. wood
Hi D.K. and hi all of you...
I looked in the archives and pulled out the following 2 posts for you...
>>> Posting number 74628, dated 13 Jan 2000 20:27:13
From: plmaddux <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Non-PD Canadian news article
This was sent to me by a friend,I am posting it on the
listserv because we have many Canadians on the list.
BUTE TO THE UNITED STATES
This is from a Canadian newspaper, it's worth sharing.
America: The Good Neighbor.
Widespread but only partial news coverage was given
recently to a remarkable editorial broadcast from
Toronto, Canada by Gordon Sinclair, a Canadian television
commentator. What follows is the full text of his
trenchant remarks as printed in the Congressional Record:
"This Canadian thinks it is time to speak up for the Americans as
the most generous and possibly the least appreciated people on all the
earth. Germany, Japan and, to a lesser extent, Britain and Italy were
lifted out of the debris of war by the Americans who poured in
billions of dollars and forgave other billions in debts.
None of these countries is today paying even the interest on its
remaining debts to the United States.
When the franc was in danger of collapsing in 1956, it was the
Americans who propped it up, and their reward was to be insulted and
swindled on the streets of Paris. I was there. I saw it.
When earthquakes hit distant cities, it is the United States that
hurries in to help. This spring, 59 American communities were
flattened by tornadoes. Nobody helped.
The Marshall Plan and the Truman Policy pumped billions of dollars
into discouraged countries. Now newspapers in those countries are
writing about the decadent, warmongering Americans.
I'd like to see just one of those countries that is gloating over
the erosion of the United States dollar build its own airplane. Does
any other country in the world have a plane to equal the Boeing Jumbo
Jet, the Lockheed Tri-Star, or the Douglas 10? If so, why don't they
fly them? Why do all the International lines except Russia fly
American Planes?
Why does no other land on earth even consider putting a man or
woman on the moon? You talk about Japanese technocracy, and you get
radios. You talk about German technocracy, and you get automobiles.
You talk about American technocracy, and you find men on the moon -
not once, but several times - and safely home again.
You talk about scandals, and the Americans put theirs right in the
store window for everybody to look at. Even their draft-dodgers are
not pursued and hounded. They are here on our streets, and most of
them, unless they are breaking Canadian laws, are getting American
dollars from ma and pa at home to spend here.
When the railways of France, Germany and India were breaking down
through age, it was the Americans who rebuilt them. When the
Pennsylvania Railroad and the New York Central went broke, nobody
loaned them an old caboose. Both are still broke.
I can name you 5000 times when the Americans raced to the help of
other people in trouble. Can you name me even one time when someone
else raced to the Americans in trouble? I don't think there was
outside help even during the San Francisco earthquake. Our neighbors
have faced it alone, and I'm one Canadian who is damned tired of
hearing them get kicked around. They will come out of this thing with
their flag high. And when they do, they are entitled to thumb their
nose at the lands that are gloating over their present troubles. I
hope Canada is not one of those."
Stand proud, Americans
Lanier Maddux Chattanooga Tn
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>>> Posting number 74705, dated 15 Jan 2000 11:50:27
From: judith richards <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Non-PD Canadian news article
On Friday, January 14, 2000 11:39 AM, jeanne wrote:
Subject: Re: Non-PD Canadian news article
THANK YOU....YOU MADE MY DAY. iF YOU HAVE THE WRITER'S ADDRESS, I'D
LOVE TO SEND HIM A "THANK YOU" AS WELL.
Jeanne Lee-Rosner
PDF-Chicago
*************************
Jeanne et al,
Gordon Sinclair died in 1984. He was a crusty, opinionated guy
who was either loved or hated. A bio with his picture can be found at:
http://www.rcc.ryerson.ca/schools/rta/ccf/personal/hof/sincla_g.html
~~~~
Judith Richards, London, Ontario, Canada
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D.K., I believe this is the editorial you were
looking for..... murray
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View the Parkinson's Awareness Links at:
http://www.geocities.com/janet313/pienet/wwweb/index.html
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Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 08:09:25 -0400
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From: Jim Cordy <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Fox and local ABC news
Comments: cc: Gayle Zoeller <[log in to unmask]>, Mary Yost <[log in to unmask]>,
Terri Whitling <[log in to unmask]>,
Debbie White <[log in to unmask]>,
Jim Warsaw <[log in to unmask]>,
"Ronald F. Vetter" <[log in to unmask]>,
Jacque Urso <[log in to unmask]>, Marty Tuchman <[log in to unmask]>,
Margaret Tuchman <[log in to unmask]>,
Phil Tompkins <[log in to unmask]>, Cal Thistle <[log in to unmask]>,
Ivan M Suzman <[log in to unmask]>,
Tom & Carol Simons <[log in to unmask]>,
Dale Severeson <[log in to unmask]>,
Saul Seigle <[log in to unmask]>,
Stephan Schwartz <[log in to unmask]>,
Barbara Schirloff <[log in to unmask]>,
Pat Schark <[log in to unmask]>,
ROBERT SANDLER <[log in to unmask]>,
Charlie Richards <[log in to unmask]>,
Peter Morabito <[log in to unmask]>,
Charlie Meyer <[log in to unmask]>,
Lynda McKenzie <[log in to unmask]>, Ben McKeen <[log in to unmask]>,
Jim Maurer <[log in to unmask]>, Bob Martone <[log in to unmask]>,
Lucy Jones <[log in to unmask]>,
will johnston <[log in to unmask]>,
Lorraine Jeffe <[log in to unmask]>, Arthur Hirsch <[log in to unmask]>,
Joel Havemann <[log in to unmask]>,
Delores Gross <[log in to unmask]>,
Winnie Carol Gray <[log in to unmask]>,
Rusty Glazer <[log in to unmask]>, Lynn Fielder <[log in to unmask]>,
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Robin Elliot <[log in to unmask]>,
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Brian Collins <[log in to unmask]>, Lynn Coles <[log in to unmask]>,
Perry Cohen <[log in to unmask]>,
Mike Claeys <[log in to unmask]>,
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Michael Beetner <[log in to unmask]>,
Martin Bayne <[log in to unmask]>,
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The local ABC channel here in Pittsburgh called and asked to do an interview
with me to air next Wednesday on the 11:00 PM news after the last Spin City
episode. Their objective is to put a local face on Parkinson's disease. My
objective is to raise awareness.
I believe raising awareness is still a major objective for the Parkinson's
cause. We have a compelling story and when it is told people are very
supportive. I would encourage leaders of local Parkinson organizations
around the country to consider approaching your local ABC news people and
suggest that they might be interested in a local twist to Michael J Fox's
last episode of Spin City.
When we started six years ago the annual amount spent on Parkinson's disease
research at NIH was $ 24 million. Also a major issue was earmarketing
(congress specifying what should be done with the dollars they appropriate.)
But things have changed dramatically. NIH is now asking congress to fund a
Parkinson research agenda calling for $947 million over five years. There
is a high probability that during the next five years, given this increase
spending level, a cure or new effective treatment for Parkinson's disease
will be discovered. Michael J Fox has tremendous visibility. The attention
he focuses on Parkinson disease will help assure that funds requested by NIH
are actually forthcoming.
What we need to do now, is make sure we have the best scientist, doing the
best science. The Parkinson's Alliance is committed to doing that by
offering small grants of $25,000.00 to researchers who have a good idea in
Parkinson's disease. These funds are to be used to generate the pilot data
which is a virtual necessity in order to obtain a large NIH grant. We have
tremendous momentum now. Anyone, be it a group or individual, who has
financial resources sufficient to making meaningful contribution should do
it now. Now is not the time to save for a rainey day. Now is the time to
channel all funding possible into the research stream so that that stream
can become a raging river of cash and flood NIH with high quality research
proposals.
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Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 07:25:37 -0600
Reply-To: Parkinson's Information Exchange Network
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Sender: Parkinson's Information Exchange Network
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From: "Kathrynne Holden, MS, RD" <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: NEW LIST MEMBER
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Dear Helen,
Welcome to the Parkinsn listserv. I believe you'll find many answers
here, as others have used both prescribed and non-traditional methods to
combat PD.
Many health professionals speculate that various antioxidants may be of
value in PD, possibly by slowing free-radical damage in the brain.
Coenzyme Q-10 and, I believe, NADH, are being studied for possible
benefit. However, there is no indication yet that either is helpful. In
any case, antioxidants don't necessarily make you feel any better. Many
diseases, like bone thinning and high blood pressure, don't produce any
ill feeling. That is how they go undetected for years. Many antioxidants
do their work unnoticed.
> I've tried
> ENADA (NADH) without success and am now trying an antioxidant called Mycrohydrin
> and drinking some Sage tea. I also read that FAVA Beans are good for the > > dopamine in the brain.
I believe if you go to John Cottingham's wonderful ARCHIVES and do a
search on Fava Beans, you'll find past posts from members who discuss
their use of it.
http://www.parkinsons-information-exchange-network-online.com/
> Would also like to hear from those of you who have explored alternative
> options.
The archives should have posts on acupuncture, tuina, chiropractic,
mucuna pruriens, NADH.
I hope you'll find a great deal of information here at Parkinsn, and
maybe make some new friends as well.
Best regards,
Kathrynne
--
Kathrynne Holden, MS, RD
Medical nutrition therapy for Parkinson's disease
Author: "Eat well, stay well with Parkinson's disease"
"Parkinson's disease: interview and assessment tools for nutrition
professionals"
"Risk for malnutrition and bone fracture in Parkinson'sdisease," J Nutr
Elderly. V18:3;1999.
http://www.nutritionucanlivewith.com/
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Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 09:39:19 -0400
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From: Dan Parker <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Viruses, worms, and etc.
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If everyone switched their e-mail programs to "text only," no viruses wou=
ld
be transmitted through the listserv. This service won't be good for
anybody, if it causes computers to crash. If you are recklessly slinging=
computer viruses around, you are not being a good neighbor. Today,
luckily, my Norton Anti-virus software again stopped four virus-loaded
files from this listserv, and that is very scary. What if a brand new
virus gets through before I download the latest anti-virus definition?
If you don't know how to make your e-mails text only, please find out how=
.
Regards,
Dan Parker
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Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 10:06:21 EDT
Reply-To: Parkinson's Information Exchange Network
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From: Jo Ann Coen <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: People Interested in Alternative Medicine
Bob - I stand corrected.
Strangely enough, my former grandfather -in-law (now deceased) had
Beurgers Disease and had his toes on his right foot amputated
This was 50 years ago.a. Jo Ann from Houston
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Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 09:09:29 -0500
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From: "Charles T. Meyer, M.D." <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: VIRUS
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My Virus Software picked it up too Connie. There are 4 posts from Helen
Johns which contain Virus Attachments. DO NOT OPEN THEM. DELETE THE
MESSAGE INCLUDING ATTACHMENTS AND THEN EMPTY THE DELETE BOX!!!.
CHARLIE
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Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 10:57:32 -0400
Reply-To: Parkinson's Information Exchange Network
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From: Lynne <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Viruses, worms, and etc.
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Could someone clarify? I'm new to this subject. I'm getting the same
listserv mail that others subscribers get, but I don't know that I've
ever received a virus or worm.
Does antivirus software usually tell you when a virus or worm is
detected? I installed a copy of Norton AntiVirus2000 version 6 last
week and I usually have it on "Auto-Protect" while reading email. I
also do periodic scans of my computer. So does anyone know why my
antivirus software hasn't notified me about a worm or virus while others
on the listserv have gotten such notices? Thanks.
Confused,
Lynne
Dan Parker wrote:
>
> If everyone switched their e-mail programs to "text only," no viruses would
> be transmitted through the listserv. This service won't be good for
> anybody, if it causes computers to crash. If you are recklessly slinging
> computer viruses around, you are not being a good neighbor. Today,
> luckily, my Norton Anti-virus software again stopped four virus-loaded
> files from this listserv, and that is very scary. What if a brand new
> virus gets through before I download the latest anti-virus definition?
>
> If you don't know how to make your e-mails text only, please find out how.
>
> Regards,
> Dan Parker
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Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 09:11:40 -0600
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Subject: Re: Viruses, worms, and etc.
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Me neither. I also read the four posts from Helen Johns - there were no
attachments. I ran my Norton after reading Charlie's post and have come up clean.
In total confusion - Sylvia
Lynne wrote:
> Could someone clarify? I'm new to this subject. I'm getting the same
> listserv mail that others subscribers get, but I don't know that I've
> ever received a virus or worm.
>
>
> Dan Parker wrote:
> >
> > Today,
> > luckily, my Norton Anti-virus software again stopped four virus-loaded
> > files from this listserv, and that is very scary. What if a brand new
> > virus gets through before I download the latest anti-virus definition?
> >
> > If you don't know how to make your e-mails text only, please find out how.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Dan Parker
--
who never ceases to be dumbfounded by the unbelievable thing s people believe
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Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 08:31:48 -0700
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From: Marling McReynolds <[log in to unmask]>
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I am not so sure who sent it, but I too received the
W/Script/kak.worm again in yesterday's download, 4 times.
Since the worm is not part of an attachment but in the e-mail itself,
I don't think setting to text only will get rid of it.
I think if anyone sent mail yesterday, 20 May, they should check
out their computer. I have run another scan and I believe I am
clean, however, I will do it again today.
Marling
51/5
still trying to laugh
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Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 11:34:22 -0400
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From: "Marjorie L. Moorefield" <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Maybe: Non PD
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I was reading the other day, that only those who are using Outlook Express,
or MS Outlook as their mailers, are being hit.
I use Eudora 4.3.1 and did not receive those attachments, even though
I real all 4 of Helen's posts.
Also, there is the possibility that your ISP has put something on their
network to stop it.
For all of our sakes, I hope its the latter.
I'm just guessing, I know there are people out there with more knowledge
about computer inner workings than I have.
So I trust you'll tell all of us.
As Ever,
Marjorie,
just another retired reference librarian with PD
67/12
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Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 11:41:34 -0400
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From: Eugene Hughes <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: virus, etc. question??
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Hello, I need some help also about the virus situation. I want to know if
anyone knows if Mac's are excluded from these things. I don't have any
anti-virus software right now, have not had any problems, thank goodness,
so, thought maybe Macintosh computers aren't as susceptible????????????
Thanks. Deborah CG Eugene 79/10+
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>From: "Kathrynne Holden, MS, RD" <[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: The lesser of 2 evils
>Date: Wed, May 17, 2000, 9:14 AM
>
>Dear Irene,
>You are very wise to gain as much information as possible about PD and
>the medications used, good for you.
>
>Both these meds are very good, but have different purposes. Also, they
>both affect each person in quite different ways, and there is no
>foretelling what those ways may be for you.
>
>However, for excellent advice, let me recommend you ask Dr. Lieberman,
>at the National Parkinson Foundation website. He will answer e-mailed
>questions by follow-up e-mail, usually within 48 hours. I would give
>your age, age at diagnosis, all medications you currently use (including
>non-PD meds) and any information your neurologist has given you
>regarding the need to use another med.
>
>The NPF website is:
>
>http://www.parkinson.org/dhtml.htm
>
>Scroll down to " Ask Dr. Lieberman, NPF Medical Director"
>
>and just follow the instructions.
>
>My very best regards,
>Kathrynne
>
>Irene wrote:
>>
>> I must start a new medicine to augment
>> the Requip I have been on for 2 and one half years. Which is the lesser
>> of two evils, amantadine or sinemet? Reading about the side effects of
>> both, makes me want to play ostrich. Does anyone have a basis of
>> comparison?
>> irene c
>> BETTER TO LIGHT THAT ONE LITTLE
>> CANDLE111
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>--
>Kathrynne Holden, MS, RD
>Medical nutrition therapy for Parkinson's disease
>Author: "Eat well, stay well with Parkinson's disease"
>"Parkinson's disease: interview and assessment tools for nutrition
>professionals"
>"Risk for malnutrition and bone fracture in Parkinson'sdisease," J Nutr
>Elderly. V18:3;1999.
>http://www.nutritionucanlivewith.com/
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Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 11:00:22 -0500
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From: "Charles T. Meyer, M.D." <[log in to unmask]>
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From symantec web site
" Learn More About Viruses and Worms
What is the difference between a computer virus and a computer worm?
Viruses are computer programs that are designed to spread themselves from
one file to another on a single computer. A virus might rapidly infect every
application file on an individual computer, or slowly infect the documents
on that computer, but it does not intentionally try to spread itself from
that computer to other computers. In most cases, that's where humans come
in. We send e-mail document attachments, trade programs on diskettes, or
copy files to file servers. When the next unsuspecting user receives the
infected file or disk, they spread the virus to their computer, and so on.
Worms, on the other hand, are insidious because they rely less (or not at
all) upon human behavior in order to spread themselves from one computer to
others. The computer worm is a program that is designed to copy itself from
one computer to another over a network (e.g. by using e-mail). The worm
spreads itself to many computers over a network, and doesn't wait for a
human being to help. This means that computer worms spread much more rapidly
than computer viruses. "
http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/wormvsvirus.html
Marjorie: That makes sense. I have been using Outlook Express and got the
Worm transmitted to me- although my wife uses Netscape and got the Iloveyou
bug caught by her virus protection software. Who knows?
Charlie
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Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 12:09:17 -0400
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Subject: CSS Internet News Virus Update
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CSS Internet News Virus Update
NewLove virus not nearly as widespread as LoveLetter
New computer virus is dangerous but has not caused much real- world
problems
ESPOO, Finland, May 19th, 2000 - F-Secure Corporation (formerly Data
Fellows) [HEX: FSC], a leading provider of security for mobile,
distributed enterprises, is warning e-mail users of a new version of
the VBS/LoveLetter virus. The new version is known as NewLove, and it
carries much more dangerous payload than LoveLetter. However, NewLove
is not widespread at all. F-Secure Anti-Virus detects and disinfects
the virus, with the latest update available from www.F-Secure.com
This worm spreads by e-mail, much like LoveLetter. However, the
subject field of the e-mail and the name of the attached file are
random. NewLove operates under Windows operating system and needs
Microsoft Outlook to spread itself further via e-mail. F-Secure
Anti-Virus detects and disinfects the virus, with the latest update
available from www.F- Secure.com
"This worm is too destructive to go very far," comments Mikko
Hypponen, Manager of Anti-Virus Research at F-Secure Corporation.
"When people were hit by LoveLetter, they didn't notice it until they
were contacted by people who they had sent the virus to. With
NewLove, your computer crashes immediatly and you loose your files.
It's difficult to miss that."
The spreading technique of the virus is tricky; it picks up a
filename from the list of recently used files. This name could be,
for example "Comments from Bob.txt". Then the virus would copy itself
to a similar name: "Comments from Bob.txt.vbs" and e-mails that file
as an attachment to people found from the address book. Subject of
the e-mail would be "FW: Comments from Bob.txt". The result is quite
realistic looking e- mail, which might be opened even by careful
users.
With default settings Windows would hide the ".vbs" extension of the
attachment. If the user would open the file, the worm would
immediatly e-mail itself further and then start to delete all
accessible files on the local hard drive and in the company network.
As a result, the computer crashes and won't boot.
Currently, there's no information on where the virus may have
originated from. There's no obvious clues in the source code of the
virus.
"The virus is programmed so that it keeps changing its code by adding
random junk text," comments Mikko Hypponen. "This makes the virus
larger and larger as it spreads - eventually making it so large it
can't be e-mailed as an attachment any more. This is another factor
that limits the spreading of this virus."
"After all, technology is not all that matters for a virus to
spread. It also needs to get lucky."
A technical description of the virus is available in the F-Secure
virus description database at:=20
http://www.F-Secure.com/v-descs/newlove.htm
Sample pictures of the code of the VBS/LoveLetter worm is available
in the F-Secure virus screenshots center at:
http://www.F-Secure.com/virus-info/v-pics/
NAME:NewLove=20
VBS/NewLove is a destructive and polymorpic VBScript worm similar to=20
VBS/LoveLetter. Futher information about VBS/LoveLetter is available at=20
http://www.F-Secure.com/v-descs/love.htm=20
VARIANT:NewLove.A=20
VBS/NewLove.A propagates in email messages using Microsoft Outlook. The=20
message that it sends looks as follows:=20
From: name-of-the-infected-user
To: random-name-from-address-book
Subject: FW: (random_file_name.ext)
Body:
Attachment: (random_file_name.ext).vbs
The worm replicates with a attachment with a random file name that has=20
".vbs" added to it. For example, "REPORT.DOC.vbs" or "Information on=20
Jacks Birthday.txt.vbs". VBS/NewLove takes the random name from recently=20
open files directory. If there is no files in that directory, it=20
generates the name.=20
If the attachment is opened with the Notepad, the code of the worm can=20
be seen: =20
Then the worm sends itself to the each recipient in each Outlook address=20
book - just like VBS/LoveLetter.=20
VBS/NewLove.A copies itself to the Windows System and the Windows=20
directory with a random name. It adds itself to the registry with a=20
random key to the following registry hives:=20
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run\
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunServices\
Next the worm will go through all drives and all subdirectories. For=20
each file, the worm creates a new file using the same name with=20
additional extension ".vbs" and deletes the original file.=20
After this the machine can not boot any longer.=20
VBS/NewLove.A was reported to be somewhat in-the-wild on 19th of May,=20
2000. Detection of this worm was added for F-Secure Anti-Virus on 11:00=20
GMT 19th of May, 2000.=20
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Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 09:39:25 -0700
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From: Murray Charters <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: How *Worms* Are Transmitted Was: Re: Maybe: Non PD
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On 21 May 2000, at 11:34, Marjorie L. Moorefield wrote:
> I was reading the other day, that only those who are using Outlook Express,
> or MS Outlook as their mailers, are being hit.
>
That is essentially correct as these worms usually run a script that only
*works* on PCs running MS Windows 95 or 98 and using MS Outlook
Express as their mailer. Helen Johns uses Microsoft Outlook Express.
>
> I use Eudora 4.3.1 and did not receive those attachments, even though
> I read all 4 of Helen's posts.
>
Oh, you received 'em all right Marjorie... But, if you read them with
Eudora and didn't open them in your browser and don't have MS Outlook
on your machine in any case then the script embedded in the HTML
source code of Helen John's messages would be *transparent* to you.
>
> Also, there is the possibility that your ISP has put something on their
> network to stop it.
>
Wishful thinking I believe.
>
> For all of our sakes, I hope its the latter.
>
> I'm just guessing, I know there are people out there with more knowledge
> about computer inner workings than I have.
> So I trust you'll tell all of us.
>
Yep, just did. More below...
>
> As Ever,
> Marjorie,
> just another retired reference librarian with PD
> 67/12
Charlie and Connie both have Outlook Express 5.0 as their e-mail
client. Sylvia uses Mozilla 4.72 and Win 98. Lynne uses Mozilla 4.51
and Win 95. All of them sent plain text messages to the List.
No multi-part = no HTML, no script, no worm.
The *worm* is contained in a script embedded in the HTML source
code of multi-part messages. When you open these messages,
you *run* the script.
Multi-part message = *could* contain a dangerous script in HTML.
No multi-part = no HTML, no script, no worm.
That is why Dan Parker said...
"If everyone switched their e-mail programs to "text only,
no viruses would be transmitted through the listserv.
This service won't be good for anybody, if it causes
computers to crash. If you are recklessly slinging
computer viruses around, you are not being a good
neighbor. Today, luckily, my Norton Anti-virus software
again stopped four virus-loaded files from this listserv,
and that is very scary. What if a brand new virus gets
through before I download the latest anti-virus
definition?
If you don't know how to make your e-mails text only,
please find out how."
AMEN
New worms and virus's will get through before we
download the latest anti-virus. (They can't make
an anti-virus until some folks report a *virus*).
My defense is that I don't use Outlook Express, (I
use Pegasus) and I never open multi-part messages
with my browser (default reader is set as Pegasus).
So far I've been lucky...
:-) Best regards to all of you ............ murray
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Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 10:20:32 -0700
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From: Murray Charters <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: CSS Internet News Virus Update
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On 21 May 2000, at 12:09, John Walker wrote:
> CSS Internet News Virus Update
>
> NewLove virus not nearly as widespread as LoveLetter
>
SNIP
The *Worm* Helen Johnsd sent was not NewLove John... It was Kak.
http://www.f-secure.com/v-descs/kak.htm
=A0F-Secure Virus Information Pages
NAME: Kak ALIAS: Wscript.KakWorm, KakWorm
Kak is a worm that embeds itself to every email sent from the infected sys=
tem,
without any attachment, like BubbleBoy does. For further information about=
BubbleBoy, see the description:
http://www.F-Secure.com/v-descs/bubb-boy.htm
Kak is written in JavaScript and it works on both English and French versi=
ons
of Windows 95/98 if Outlook Express 5.0 is installed. It does not work in =
a
typical Windows NT installation.
The worm uses a known security vulnerability in Outlook Express. Once the
user receives an infected email message, and opens or views the message
in the preview pane, the worm creates a file "kak.hta" to the Windows
Startup directory.
Next time when the system is restarted, the worm activates. It replaces
"c:\autoexec.bat" with a batch file that deletes the worm from the Startup=
directory. The original "autoexec.bat" is copied to "C:\AE.KAK".
It also modifies the message signature settings of Outlook Express 5.0
replacing the current signature with an infected file, "C:\Windows\kak.htm=
".
Therefore every message sent with Outlook Express after that will contain
the worm.
Next it modifies the Windows registry in a such way that it will be execut=
ed
in every system startup. The key it adds to the registry is:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run\cAg0u
The .hta file that the virus creates and will be executed is saved to Wind=
ows
System directory. In first day of each month if the number of hours is mor=
e
than 17 (i.e. 6pm or later), the worm will show an alert box with the foll=
owing
text:
Kagou-Anit-Kro$oft say not today!
Then the worm causes the Windows to shut down.
F-Secure Anti-Virus detects the worm. When the worm has been detected,
the user should delete the following files, if they exist:
C:\Windows\kak.htm
C:\Windows\System\(filename).hta
where (filename) is a variable, and it changes from one system
to another
C:\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Startup\kak.hta
C:\Windows\Menu Demarrer\Programmes\Demarrage\kak.hta
The "autoexec.bat" can be restored by copying the "C:\AE.KAK" to
"C:\autoexec.bat".
Kak uses a known security hole in Microsoft Outlook Express to create
the local HTA file.
If active scripting is disabled from Outlook Express, then the worm will n=
ot
work.
Microsoft has more information on this problem available at:
http://www.microsoft.com/Security/Bulletins/MS99-032faq.asp
They have also a patch to fix this problem at
http://www.microsoft.com/security/Bulletins/ms99-032.asp
[Analysis: Katrin Tocheva and Sami Rautiainen, F-Secure]=A0
*************************************=A0
=A0
All the best John & everyone .......... murray
ps: I like your "Snoopy" ASCII art signature...
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Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 10:31:15 -0700
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From: "Robert A. Fink, M. D." <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Viruses, worms, and etc.
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From: Lynne <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Viruses, worms, and etc.
To: [log in to unmask]
> Does antivirus software usually tell you when a virus or worm is
> detected? I installed a copy of Norton AntiVirus2000 version 6 last
> week and I usually have it on "Auto-Protect" while reading email. I
> also do periodic scans of my computer. So does anyone know why my
> antivirus software hasn't notified me about a worm or virus while
> others on the listserv have gotten such notices? Thanks.
>
Lynne,
I use the same anti-virus software that you use. It has notified me
several times, but both of these came when I tried to copy a floppy
disk which contained the transcription of a legal deposition which I
had given. It turned out later that the court reporting service had re-
used a diskette which contained a virus.
I have not had a problem with the most recent worms for several
reasons; one being that I will not open attachments unless I know
what they are in advance; and then, I will scan them with Norton
before opening them. Also, I refuse to use Microsoft mailers (Outlook
or Outlook Express), and use Pegasus Mail instead. Pegasus does not
seem to be susceptible to the current strong of bugs.
Just make sure that you keep your anti-virus software running, and
perform frequent updates and scans.
Best,
Bob
**********************************************
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2500 Milvia Street Suite 222
Berkeley, California 94704-2636
Telephone: 510-849-2555 FAX: 510-849-2557
WWW: http://www.dovecom.com/rafink/
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Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 13:45:43 -0400
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From: "Marjorie L. Moorefield" <[log in to unmask]>
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Among the many Newsletters I receive , one of my favorites
is the weekly publication Netsurfer Digest.
It contains an enormous amount of information, including
book reviews!!!
I'm sending ,to all of you, what they said. If anyone wants to subscribe
to it please contact me off line, and I'll give you the information, its FREE,
To: Subscribers of Netsurfer Digest:;
Subject: Netsurfer Digest: Vol. 06, #17
NETSURFER DIGEST
More Signal, Less Noise Volume 06, Issue 17
Tuesday, May 16, 2000
BREAKING SURF
Severe Windows Security Bug and Fix
This bug is quite bad, and has been known since last year. It became more
of an issue after somebody figured out you could exploit it to propagate
computer infections in the same manner as the ILOVEYOU worm, only with much
more destructive results. Any PC running Internet Explorer 5.0 and/or
Office 2000 can be attacked with e-mail attachments, even if the recipient
does not open said attachments. You don't even have to be using Internet
Explorer: just having it installed with default security settings makes you
vulnerable. The techies among you can see the horror of the situation.
Fortunately, a fix will patch the hole in under five minutes. Make sure all
the Windows machines in your care apply the patch immediately.
Incidentally, Microsoft has finally responded to this class of
e-mail-delivered worms by redesigning how the Outlook e-mail client deals
with attachments. PCWorld has the story.
Bug:
<http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/ms99-032.asp>http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/ms99-032.asp
Fix:
<http://www.microsoft.com/msdownload/iebuild/scriptlet/en/scriptlet.htm>http://www.microsoft.com/msdownload/iebuild/scriptlet/en/scriptlet.htm
Outlook:
<http://www.officeupdate.microsoft.com/2000/articles/out2ksecFileTypes.htm>http://www.officeupdate.microsoft.com/2000/articles/out2ksecFileTypes.htm
PCWorld:
<http://www.pcworld.com/pcwtoday/article/0,1510,16721,00.html>http://www.pcworld.com/pcwtoday/article/0,1510,16721,00.html
As Ever,
Marjorie
67/12
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Fort Lauderdale, Florida
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Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 14:51:03 -0400
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From: janet paterson <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: MJF website opens May 23rd
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http://www.michaeljfox.com/
This is the future home of the official
Michael J. Fox Foundation for Parkinson's Research Website.
Michael would like all of you to know how grateful he is
for the tremendous outpouring of affection he has received.
To find out what you can do to support Parkinson's Research,
and how you can join us in our push toward a cure,
please check back on our official launch date,
Tuesday, May 23, 2000.
If you'd like to make a donation in the meantime, please forward them to:
Michael J. Fox Foundation for Parkinson's Research
840 Third Street
Santa Rosa, California, U.S.A.
95404
Email questions, comments, etc. to [log in to unmask]
janet paterson
53 now / 41 dx / 37 onset
613 256 8340 / PO Box 171 Almonte Ontario K0A 1A0 Canada
visit my website "a new voice" at: http://www.geocities.com/janet313/
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Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 21:03:23 +0200
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From: Chris van der Linden <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Any help for drooling ?
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As I have mentioned before a new treatment for drooling in PD exists.
Since several months I inject with a small needle botulinum toxin in the
parotid glands, which inhibits the release of saliva; it will give you a dry
mouth, but it surely works in my patients. Not painful and no side effects.
Off course you have to seek the advice of a movement disorder specialist.
It is quite a new treatment so many doctors will not have heard about it
yet. Botulinum toxin is manufactured by Allergan, Inc USA.
Good luck and best regards,
Chris van der Linden
St. Lucas Hospital Ghent
Movement Disorder Center
Ghent
BELGIUM
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Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 06:38:19 +1000
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keep the head up so drainage is down the throat not out of mouth
----- Original Message -----
From: Rose Rowton <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2000 12:16
Subject: Any help for drooling ?
> Hi,
> My husband has PD and has so much saliva in his mouth, he drools
constantly
> wetting the front of his shirts, and if he bends over it just comes right
out
> of his mouth. He said he cannot control it. Does anyone know if
something
> can be done about it.
> Thanks in advance
> Rose
>
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Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 09:43:39 +1000
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From: fleming <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: freezing
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Dear Listmembers,
Would some kind member point me in the right direction to get some
advice on freezing which I will print for a fellow PWP.
Thank you.
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Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 16:50:23 -0400
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This was the address I used, and got the automatic response. Perhaps when
the site is "up" it will be possible to get through better.
>Email questions, comments, etc. to [log in to unmask]
Camilla Flintermann, CG for Peter 82/70/55
Oxford, Ohio
http://www.newcountry.nu/pd/members/camilla/one.htm
<[log in to unmask]>
also, on PDWebring at
http://members.tripod.lycos.nl/genugten/flinterm.htm
"Ask me about the CARE list for
Caregivers of Parkinsonians ! "
And visit the CARE webring at
http://www.crosswinds.net/~caregivers/index.html
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Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 14:14:30 -0700
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From: Murray Charters <[log in to unmask]>
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On 22 May 2000, at 9:43, fleming wrote:
> Dear Listmembers,
>
> Would some kind member point me in the right direction to get some
> advice on freezing which I will print for a fellow PWP.
>
> Thank you.
Here is the URL for Phil Tompkins' PD Index - a great site IMHO
http://www.pdindex.com/pdindexf.htm
Scroll down and check Falls, Freezing, and Freezing, tips and suggestions.
Phil's got the *stuff* you're lookin' for ......... http://www.pdindex.com/
Everyone should have Phil's site in their "favourites" or "bookmarks"
All the best ............ murray
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Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 17:34:47 EDT
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Subject: Abusing meds - deception and/or confusion (long)
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This is a true story -- a very odd situation I am presently caught up in=
. =20
My husband seemed uncomfortable with the telephone conversation he was=20
having...I picked up another phone, and heard the home health-care=20
administrator tell him with conviction, "Your wife abuses her medications.=20=
=20
She sneaks extra doses from the kitchen during the day, and doesn't tell=20
anyone. She ends up taking too much. It's what caused her recent violent=
=20
dyskinesias that became nearly fatal."
While it is quite possible that an excess of Sinemet is what poisoned my=
=20
system, caused renal failure and near death, I have always been inclined=20
towards taking the LEAST med (esp. Sinemet) that I could to control my=20
symptoms, and have been inclined to s-t-r-e-t-c-h the time between doses --=20
certainly not "sneak" extra pills. =20
Nevertheless, one thing the home-care administrator was right about is=20
the amount of Sinemet I was taking before my hospitalization was at an=20
all-time high but within prescribed limits (6-10/day). I had no sense of=20
pendng near-disaster despite multiple warning signs listed below that neithe=
r=20
Fred nor I heeded beyond mentioning in my quarterly PD checkup.. In the=20
future, we hopefully will be more aware and assertive..
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
WARNING SIGNS MEDS WERE OUT OF WHACK - PRE-HOSPITALIZATION
1. The new prescription for 6-10 Sinement itself. This represented a=20
big jump in my daily intake, and also a lack of direction. We should have=20
been raising questions and alarms unceasingly with my doctor. the list, each=
=20
other, local support group members, etc.
=20
2. Significant change in med (and/or symptom) pattern. Altho I was=20
first diagnosed with PD in 1984, the first med I was given that effectively=20
addressed r. arm tremor and neck pain was 25 mg Elavil/bedtime started abt.=20
1987 and remaining my sole nite-time med at the same dosage until abt. 1998.=
=20
A year later in 1988 I began 25/100 Sinemet -- titratng up to 6 =20
1/2-Sinemet/daytime.
Abt. 1988 my Elavil dosage was increased to 100 mg, and later reduce=
d=20
to 75 mg to 50 mg. Abt. 1999 is when painful throat constriction started=20
becoming a problem, particularly after taking the Elavil. =C7onstriction=20
started waking me many nights with a sense of fear -- my gut reaction was to=
=20
take two (2) Sinemets - this did relieve the throat pain but frequently kept=
=20
me awake. (At the time, I normally tool 2 Sinemet 3-4 times/day). This=20
nite-time Sinemet bothered me because it disrupted my sleep pattern and my=20
med pattern!!
3. Frequent insomnia. While I had had occasional bouts of insomnia=20
before, I now turned into an al-nite Solitaire freak. Instead of reporting=
=20
this unheaIthy sleep deprivation to a doctor, I started looking forward to=20
this new ritual.
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=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
POST-HOSPITALIZATION WARNING SIGNS/SYMPTOMS
What concerns us is my post-hospital med regime has yet to be ironed out=
.=20
e.g. I have frequent spells of my throat constricting, dystonia, dyskinesia=
,=20
etc. \(esp. st nite) Since the end of April when I was discharged from the=
=20
nursing home, I have been consulting quite often with our local PD clinic=20
staff, finally changing my Family Practitioner (to one more caring and=20
involved), and am trying to make an appt. with a throat specialist at=20
KUMC's ENT clinic.
Meds (post-hospitalizaton) as of May 3, 2000
6 a.m. 1-1/2 25/100 Sinemet
1 - 200 mg Comtan
1 - 200 mg Bromocriptine
9 a.m. 1- 25/100 Sinemet
1 - 200 ng Comtan
10 a.m. 1 - 200 mg Bromocriptine
noon 1 - 25/100 Sinemet
1 - 200 mg Comtan
2 p.m. 1 - 200 mg Bromocriptine
3 p.m. 1 - 25/100 Sinemet
1 - 200 mg Comtan
6 p.m. 1/2 -25/100 Sinemet
1 - 200 mg Comtan =20
1 - 200 mg Bromocriptine
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I stuck religiously with the above schedule at the nusing home -- both=20
Fred and I prodding staff to deliver pills on time. I am still on this=20
schedule daytimes, *except we are trying to reduce the 6 a.m. Sinemet from=20
1-1/2 to 1 per MDS.
Due to insomnia from a very tight throat at night, my MDS made the=20
following additions at my post-hosp. appt. 5/3/00. I think of them as=20
"wild cards" that are hard to manage or time at nite and which have an=20
unpredictable effect how the day dosages will work. =20
(Added 5/3/00)
6 p.m. - 6 a.m. 3 1/2-25/100 Sinemet (as needed)
2 .5 mg Ambien - sedative (as needed)
As needed 1/2 - 0.5 Lorazepan - anxiety relief (Antivan)
(every 8 hrs.) =20
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After nearly 3 weeks I DO feel that I need more help in when and how t=
o=20
use these meds . While I have appts. slated with my doctors, I am weary of=20
the almost constant pain and exertion. Thus I had phoned this administrator=
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Thursday to see if any of their home-care personnel were suitably trained to=
=20
act as observers for a 24 - 48. My idea was that they could provide a more=20
accurate diary than either I or my husband could.
=20
But, before pursuing this possibility, the administrator and I ar e goin=
g=20
to have to come to some understanding whether she is dealing with a case of=20
deception or confusion.
MEDS
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Pre-Hospitalization | Post-hospitalization
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=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
6-10 Sinemet 25/100 5 - 6-1/2 Sinemet 25/100
Tasmar 5 Comtan 200 mg
3 Mirapex 4 Bromocriptine 200 mg
1 Elavil 25 mg 1-2 Ambien .5
xanax atavan
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=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
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Any thoughts?
Regards,=20
Barbara Blake-Krebs 59/44 [log in to unmask]
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If this were true, we in Africa would be paying a lot less than we do for
drugs. Unless of course Africa is the exception.
Regards
DaveSA
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From: "Camilla Flintermann" <[log in to unmask]>
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> This is something we've discussed as lot, and in today's paper there was
an
> interesting clue as to why Rx drugs cost more in the USA. The writer,
> Gwynne Dyer, as London-based independent journalist, says that the drug
> companies divide the world into different price zones based on average
> middle-class incomes in a particular area. "Americans...pay about 3 times
> as much as Poles for the same drugs, and Poles pay around 3 times as much
> as Indians." He adds, "To maintain the integrity of this system, holders
> of drug patents forbid any international trade that crosses the borders of
> these zones."
> Perhaps this does help explain the price differences we have noted and
> complained about?
>
> Camilla Flintermann, CG for Peter 82/70/55
> Oxford, Ohio
> http://www.newcountry.nu/pd/members/camilla/one.htm
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> also, on PDWebring at
> http://members.tripod.lycos.nl/genugten/flinterm.htm
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> "Ask me about the CARE list for
> Caregivers of Parkinsonians ! "
> And visit the CARE webring at
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Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 21:50:56 -0500
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From: John Cottingham <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: P-I-E-N-O Virus Information(Beware of Funny Floppies)
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"No Mother! My computer doesn't need medicine because I am connected to the
internet, regardless of what you heard on the news". To a 90 year
old...hearing the word virus...(the noun) means something that needs
medicine to cure... In the age of technobabble virus (the adjective) means
something that when unleashed tends to be destructive.
You can avoid any viruses inadvertantly sent by list members if you will
click on the Suspend Parkinsn Mail button on the Parkinsn Email List
Message page and keep up with your parkinsn mail by reading it on
P-I-E-N-O. You will still be able to post messages but you mailbox will be
free of inadvertant viruses.
http://www.parkinsons-information-exchange-network-online.com
Computer viruses are people made for many reasons. Most slip through poorly
designed programs...to corrupt files or the operating system of computers.
Outlook Express and Internet Explorer are two examples of poorly coded
programs. I recently received two unsolicited emails by persons clicking on
the words John Cottingham on my many pages of P-I-E-N-O and Homeboys
Adventures in Australia.
These emails had code attached that if I responded would have sent my
Outlook Express address book...to an insurance salesman. :( I know a bit of
code and saw what it did. That ploy didn't work because:
1. I don't use Outlook Express as my mail program.
2. I don't respond to medical questions, medicine information questions or
unsolicited email.
3. If I had replyed...because I wasn't using Outlook express nothing would
have happened...none of my personal data would have been transmitted to the
sneaky sender.
How do our computers get infected with viruses?
Viruses can be transmitted by putting someone else's floppy disk into your
computer. Nothing is really safe...even if you know the person..because
perhaps the infection got transmitted to them by email..or using another
persons floppy disk.
Everyone now days belongs to a mailing list..funny or otherwise. Every
funny gets passed around the office lan...to friends and relatives. Some of
these can have attachments...completely unrelated to the mail. It is in
these attachments with .doc, xls, ppt etc where the trojan horse viruses
hide. Email with catchy subject lines...like I Love You...tend to make you
want to open what ever the email contains.
What do you do if someone tells you that you have sent them a virus?
If you have a anti-virus program, click the liveupdate button and get the
latest virus definitions...then check every file on your computer.
Anti-virus programs need to be updated at least every month. One month I
updated a clients anti-virus definitions and 720 new viruses had been
detected that month alone.
Most anti-virus programs provide the definitions for a year..after that you
have to pay for them or upgrade to the newer version of the program.
In the worst case, your machine will quit working and every file on the
hard drive will be corrupted.
If you catch it early and not have one of the fatal viruses, even if you
don't have a current anti-virus program, one that is free, is available on
the web.
HouseCall is at the following address. It will download some temporary
files to your computer that will run an anti-virus program. After download,
at the box at the bottom of the webpage, your drives will be listed. click
on the ones you want checked. Not wanting to be more redundant..:) read the
instructions below.
One other thing. If you have ever found a virus on your machine before with
an anti-virus program and it was put in quarantine rather than deleted..it
is still on your hard drive and house call will report it. Just tell
HouseCall to delete it.
How to use HouseCall:
http://housecall.antivirus.com/housecall/start_corp.asp
When HouseCall finishes loading, you will see a 'window' above showing all
the disk drives on your computer.
Select the disk drive(s) or directories you would like to scan.
Click the 'Scan' button to start. (You can continue to browse the web while
HouseCall is scanning.)
If HouseCall finds a virus, it will list its name, as well as the name of
the infected file(s).
> Click on the virus name to learn more about the virus
> Click on the 'Clean' button to remove the virus.
If the virus cannot be cleaned, HouseCall will give you the option to
delete the infected file.
Having trouble?
1. Check the Frequently Asked Questions file. It is located at:
http://housecall.antivirus.com/pc_housecall/faq_corp.htm
Check your Browser:
To use HouseCall, you will need to have either Microsoft Internet Explorer
(version 3.02 or above) or Netscape Navigator (version 3.01 or above).
[log in to unmask] Search the parkinsn archive online at:
http://james.parkinsons.org.uk
Catch the Parkinsn's List Online messages at:
http://www.parkinsons-information-exchange-network-online.com
Click the navigation ads and use the new search tools
John Cottingham
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Subject: Re: Viruses, worms, and etc.
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Could somebody tell me exactly what a "worm" does? Does it affect getting
into web sites? I've been having trouble accessing just about everything
lately. If I click on something like Bonnie's "Air Plane Joke" I get shut
down and have to hit Ctrl/Alt/Del.
The same goes for some web sites. I can access a game I have on my favorites
list and a couple of other game sites. I don't pretend to understand any of
this, but I was wondering if this "worm" everyone is talking about could have
something to do with it? I know I need to Purge Cache every so often, so I
did that last week, but it didn't help. My computer is old and SLOW, but
this is getting ridiculous, not to mention irritating. Any help would be
greatly appreciated.
Eleanor
