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Ivan, I feel I have lots of talents, but singing isn't close to being one. I do love to sing, but the last time I did... well let me tell you a true story - it was a beautiful spring day, and I was down in the lower pasture, where I caught my roping horse, Charlie (as in charlie horse, a real pain at times) I haltered him, and jumped up on him to ride him back to the barn to saddle him. I felt so great, I broke into a song. Charlie just broke in two, knocked me on top of a barbwire fence, drug me a few yards, and then kicked me in the head - 7 stitches, a broken jaw, and a very clear critique of my singing ability. thanks for the advice, but I will pass on singing in public again laughingly yours bob aka tex