Thanks Will for your perspective. It is interesting that you described the groups as "competing", which of course they are. I don see this as a bad thing, for clearly if the various PD groups spoke with one voice, that'd be the voice of the status quo. And there probably would be no Udall bill today. Let's hear it for diversity and a multi-pronged attack to slay the beast. As long as the competition does not make us lose sight of the common goal, it'll be ok. Frans ----------- will johnston wrote: > > I have mixed feelings on the Samuelson [PAN] / Fox union. <...> -- Frans van Duinen (416) 652-8580 Toronto, Ontario