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At 08:18 AM 2000/06/07 -0400, bill parrette <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >Hi all, Wow! I just got through reading some ten digests >that had backed up in my mailbox while I had been busy. There >are people out there in cyber-space who actually missed me? Wow!... i didn't say as much, but i just knew you were up to no good! >...spending a whole month teaching classes there. It was great >meeting you, Bob B. I hope we can get together again next time >I'm out that way. And, thank you Nancy for helping us connect... let me re-phrase that.. 'up to no good' Big-Time! the Kansas Konnektion YiKes! >... Finally, (and completely of-topic) if anyone on-list knows of >some hackers or phreaks who might be willing to help me, please >contact me off-list. I have a need to positively identify some- >one who is "bothering" me through proxy servers and anonymous re- >mailers -- I have been unsuccessful in my own efforts at identi- >fying them and I am to the point where I want to pursue prose- >cution.... i don't think this subject is off-topic at all! we are all co-pioneers out here in the Wild Wild West of the cyber-frontier where any one can pretend to be any one or two or three or more... if they so desire for whatever sad reason luckily as long as we keep our cyber-radar and smell-o-meters in good working order such pretensions quickly reveal themselves as such however deliberate "bothering" can be a more troublesome problem out here i have been deliberately "bothered" as well i think it raises issues that should be addressed openly; this affects all of us why do "anonymous re-mailers" exist on the internet at all? does "privacy" equal "anonymity"? when does "anonymity" change to "pretension" to "fraud"? when does "annoyance" change to "harrassment" to "stalking"? having an e-mail address or a web-page doesn't "invite" or "encourage" or "condone" such "bothering" any more than having a postal address [a matter of public record] or a home phone number [ditto] does my posts here [like yours] include my snail-mail address and my phone number for all list-members to share i feel no need for "privacy" or "anonymity" in this pd community jp aka jannie magnolia janet paterson 53 now / 41 dx / 37 onset 613 256 8340 / PO Box 171 Almonte Ontario K0A 1A0 Canada visit my website "a new voice" at: http://www.geocities.com/janet313/