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This is true, the AKA one I have caught 3 times before it infected my mail system in the past few days. Fortunately it is easy to find, but what if it happens to be an insidious one? I receive a regular anti virus newsletter in which he lists the most recent and common ones and has directions to find and or delete/clean each one. He recommends being sure that one's anti virus is kept updated and that we all watch what we download. He said even he had a trojan horse that 3 scans did not find but the fourth one did. If he has this kind of problem what can most of us expect? He suggests that those on the net should make sure all security patches are downloaded, and that viruses are not going away, but will continue to be part of being on the net. * seattle* Audrey