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what reality? by recommending the disuse of ms products you're avoiding 'reality' and are promoting a fallacy. your message will cause list members to have a false sense of security thinking, 'oh, alright. if i don't use internet explorer or outlook i'm home free.' while it is true that it seems ms products are targeted, using other software is NO guarantee you won't get a virus or a worm. using virus protection software does protect- if one keeps it updated. there are devious people out there in cyber-space who take delight in releasing viruses and worms. if the use of ms products was discontinued, do you think they would stop doing this? hardly. those on the list who are not computer literate value your opinions. why are you not recommending the use of virus protection software???? do you use one yourself? the cost of these type of programs is minimal-- you can even use a program online called 'housecall' free. (i've recommended this as have other list members.) the first time it 'catches' a virus or a worm and prevents it from attacking your computer, you will not only breathe a sigh of relief, but you'll also realize the value of these programs. so before we trash ms software and bill gates again, let's give ourself a real reality check - and promote the use of virus protection software. btw i fail to see your logic in comparing 'having' to get pd with 'having' to change software. maybe you could explain further. thx barb k >you "shouldn't have to change e-mail programs" but there are a lot of things we shouldn't "have" to do like get pd for one At 03:26 AM 6/19/00 -0400, you wrote: >i have only heard of ms programs being affected by the current flood of viri >(as well as by the older floods too) > >they are designed to prey on some default settings in microsoft's e-mail >and browser software which are unique to microsoft > >maybe you are right, >you "shouldn't have to change e-mail programs" >but there are a lot of things we shouldn't "have" to do >like get pd for one > >but i heard somewhere that >dealing with reality is the only way through it > > >jp > > >janet paterson >53 now / 41 dx / 37 onset >613 256 8340 / PO Box 171 Almonte Ontario K0A 1A0 Canada >visit my website "a new voice" at: "http://www.geocities.com/janet313/"