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joan - so glad you referenced the site - i DID delete it because of the subject header - folks, this is one of the reasons that the header is SO IMPORTANT - what's so difficult is when a relevant subject is brought up for the first time then suddenly it turns into chitchat between 2 or 3 people i'm not complaining mind you - but i agree, it's really tough if you miss a couple of days! as for the forum in Washington - is anyone else going? i just found out a woman here in L.A. is going and thought i might try to pull my airline points together - i've only seen Ivan's message - any others? just curious - thanks - Cari daughter of Dempsey-PWP (71/16+) & Jo Ann-CGiver