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Jim, I had always thought a 'sundowner' was the first drink of the evening, after the sun had passed the yardarm as in the cartoon character Andy Capp saying "of course I'll have a drink. It's half past five in Kuala Lampur!" Cheers, Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: J J Caldwell <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2000 9:54 PM Subject: Sundowning > Hi AnitaJo Page > > In response to your query re Sundowning, I have heard the term but > not in reference to PD.I do recall its use in the depression days of > the late twenties / earlier thirties in Australia and New Zealand to > describe homeless men who lived on the road in rural districts and > they would arrive at a farm homestead at sundown (when work has > stopped) with the hope of receiving a meal and a bed for the night > (usually in an outbuilding). It was customary for them to offer to > chop fire wood (after breakfast !!) in the morning but not for long > as they usually liked to be on the road early before the sun became > too hot !! They were known as "Sundowners" particularly in Australia > but in New Zealand they were also known as "swaggers) > > Hope this is of interest > > Best wishes > > Jim Caldwell PwP 76/10 >