Sure, sentence combining as a rote exercise has little if any value -- but Hongxing is right that academic (or any form of complex) discourse rarely comes naturally. Rather than simply deride people who seem to be looking for ways to teach this we should be able to offer some constructive advice. Susan--are you in a position where you can suggest alternative exercises or problems? As mundane as these disussions can get, they ultimately have more relevance for policy and for what happens in the general public. Could you note that the exercises seem to address important issues (summary, taxonomy, coherence, and relevance) but that "sentence combining" as an exercise has not been proven to teach these skills for 3 reasons: 1. It does not address concision Christopher Turk in "Do You Write Impressively?" _Bulletin of the British Ecological Society_ 9(3): 5-10 (1978) found that concision was not only linked to ease of reading and appropriate style but that scientific writers with a more concise style were perceived to be "more competent" than those with a wordy style. (See Huckin and Olsen _Technical Writing and Professional Communication_ (p. 478-479). Simply combining information does not teach students to be precise or thoughtful writers. In fact, it encourages wordiness and sloppy organization because it does not allow a writer to use punctuation, bullets, lists, numbering sequences, etc. -- characteristics of excellent scientific writing. 2. Sentence combining does not teach appropriate taxonomy. Successful Academic writing uses sophisticated ways to order its information. Linguists often talk about "given and new" structures (Gillian Brown and George Yule, _Discourse Analysis_ p.153-155) and characteristically, writers will order given information before introducing new information. Since all of the information in sentence combining is "new" the exercise is artificial and does not test the ways a student would actually order information. In addition, the exercise is too broad and unfocused to specify parallel text structures, light vs. heavy noun phrases, and because the writers can not include "new ideas" they will be dissuaded from introducing conjunctions, signal words, or other forms of cohesion -- the very things the exercises seem to want to test. In addition, because the exercise is devoid of context the writer is unable to accurately judge the most appropriate organizing structure. 3. There is no audience focus Combining teaches writers to inflate their prose rather than write for the needs of a specific audience. The questions do not even include the audience the writer is addressing. Alternatives: Other than abandoning the entire test (probably not an option) as an alternative I'd suggest: 1. Take a random scattering of data and organize it for three different audiences. 2. Edit existing paragraphs/sentences. I hope this helps. If you need more info on other references (time is an issue) please let me know, or perhaps others on the list could help. As well, I could photocopy stuff if you need it. good luck, Brenton Faber Clarkson University [log in to unmask] -------------------------------------------------------- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- To leave the list, send a SIGNOFF CASLL command to [log in to unmask] or, if you experience difficulties, write to Russ Hunt at [log in to unmask] For the list archives and information about the organization, the annual conference, and publications, go to the Inkshed Web site at http://www.StThomasU.ca/inkshed/ -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-