Actually, I do need more said. I can't change the minds of evaulation consultants by telling them they are using an old test item. What I need is strong arguments as to why this test item may not be a valid or reliable tool to assess language skills. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrea Abernethy Lunsford" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2000 6:53 PM Subject: Re: Sentence combining as test item? > good grief -- New Brunswick has now got a test that is only 25 years old -- > that's probably the best that can be said about this..... Andrea > > At 02:48 PM 8/12/2000 +0000, you wrote: > >I recently recieved a question from a teacher friend here in New > >Brunswick (Susan MacDonald, for those who might remember her from > >previous Inkshed meetings). She's concerned about the provincial > >grade 11 English test. The province is proposing a new item for the > >test. This is part of it: > > > > ---------------- > >Student instructions: > > > >Sentence Combining > > > >Combine each group of sentences into one effective sentence. > > > > a. All of the original ideas must be included in each newly > > constructed sentence. > > b. Do not add any new ideas. > > c. Your score will be based on effective combination of ideas, > > correct spelling and punctuation. > > d. If you have difficulty with a particular group of sentences, > > go on to other sentences and come back to the difficult group when > > you have time. > > > >Sample item D > > > > 1. Ian Rankin is one of the most famous writers of the twentieth > > century. > > 2. Rankin was born in Edinburgh. > > 3. Rankin has written six detective novels. > > 4. One of these novels won the prestigious "Golden Dagger > > Award". > > 5. The winning novel is titled The Hidden Highway. > > > >Sample item F > > > > 1. Freud and Jung "discovered" the unconscious in the nineteenth > > century. > > 2. Each had a very different view of this mental space. > > 3. For Freud the unconscious was a savage place which harboured > > humanity's primitive instincts. > > 4. For Jung the unconscious was a place which contained > > humanity's collective wisdom. > > > > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > > > >She asked me what I thought about it, and whether I knew of research > >bearing on issues of current views of sentence combining, whether > >testing sentence combining is a useful strategy, and whether the > >likely consequence of including such an item -- that teachers would > >be more likely to include formal sentence combining instruction in > >their classrooms -- was one to be desired. (My own immediate > >question is why in Heaven's name anyone would attempt to construct > >one Frankenstein sentence which included all this stuff, but let that > >pass. You can also let pass my ignorance about who Ian Rankin, "one > >of the most famous writers of the twentieth century" is, or what Doug > >Vipond pointed out, that it's got Jung in the wrong century. Unless > >you think someone should care at least distantly about what they're > >writing.) > > > >I'd be grateful for any thoughts or (especially) references on this, > >and I'll pass them on to her. > > > > -- Russ > > __|~_ > >Russell A. Hunt __|~_)_ __)_|~_ Professor of English > >St. Thomas University )_ __)_|_)__ __) PHONE: (506) 452-0424 > >Fredericton, New Brunswick | )____) | FAX: (506) 450-9615 > >E3B 5G3 CANADA ___|____|____|____/ [log in to unmask] > > \ / > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.StThomasU.ca/~hunt/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > To leave the list, send a SIGNOFF CASLL command to > > [log in to unmask] or, if you experience difficulties, > > write to Russ Hunt at [log in to unmask] > > > > For the list archives and information about the organization, > >the annual conference, and publications, go to the Inkshed Web site at > > http://www.StThomasU.ca/inkshed/ > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > To leave the list, send a SIGNOFF CASLL command to > [log in to unmask] or, if you experience difficulties, > write to Russ Hunt at [log in to unmask] > > For the list archives and information about the organization, > the annual conference, and publications, go to the Inkshed Web site at > http://www.StThomasU.ca/inkshed/ > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- To leave the list, send a SIGNOFF CASLL command to [log in to unmask] or, if you experience difficulties, write to Russ Hunt at [log in to unmask] For the list archives and information about the organization, the annual conference, and publications, go to the Inkshed Web site at http://www.StThomasU.ca/inkshed/ -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-