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Dear Peter  Hornick--

Perhaps you are a relative newcomer to this list. If so, you could not be
aware that the discussion re: topics etc has been repeated MANY times over
the years that I've been involved here, and the suggestion of dividing the
list  has been made repeatedly.  On the surface it seems to make some
sense, and please don't feel I'm putting you down---the fact is however
that it has never happened, because most members didn't prefer it.   There
is a sublist , "Sparkle", intended for jokes, etc--and some belong to it.
But whenever it has been suggested that jokes, poetry, and banter be
excluded from PIEN people refuse to support that option, posting about how
the lighter messages help them survive tough times !  Some software allows
one to filter messages, and this can help--in the end we delete.....

We DO ask---and often forget--that the subject heading of a post say
NON-PD,if that's the case, and from time to time try to remind folks that
an "I agree" or "Good work" kind of message for an individual be sent
offlist.  Please understand that new members  are constantly being added to
PIEN, and it is impossible for them to know these "rules" or the history of
earlier discussions.  It really becomes a "live and let live" situation.
As has been said, there are MANY PD-related resources which are only
technical--and while PIEN is not one of them, you can easily learn about
them here.

Peter wrote:
>Alf wrote to say how easy he feels it is to "automatically filter out" the
>non-technical emails.  I disagree, I cannot do this automatically, nor
>easily.  I recommend that the list be split into two lists, and those that
>want information and poetry can subscribe to both, while others can choose
>just the list that interests them.
>
>I do not see why the University of Toronto should be in the business of
>distributing gossip and poetry, and if the University wishes to provide this
>service, it seems appropriate that it be done on a separate mailing list
>from the information function that is the true purpose of the university.


Camilla Flintermann, CG for Peter 82/70/55
Oxford, Ohio
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