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...have always been heroes in my book there seems to be a bunch of ether-static on this line just in case, for the sake of clarity, when i said i was a proud pienet elfette i meant that i was and am proud to be a member here since we have the finest pd resources [of all kinds] in the world imho i am also happy and humbled to be able to help whomever and whenever that was it no disparagement or trivialzing of anyone else or their contributions intended not now not ever janet janet paterson 53 now / 44 dx cd / 43 onset cd / 41 dx pd / 37 onset pd tel: 613 256 8340 url: "http://www.geocities.com/janet313/" email: [log in to unmask] smail: POBox 171 Almonte Ontario K0A 1A0 Canada