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hi all i am having trouble understanding the logic behind the idea that some think that clinical depression might be more suited to a list separate from this one cd is effectively a pd symptom in 50% of all parkies if the 'official' major symptom of pd is tremour or ridigity would similar logic not suggest that 'us' rigidity types should go off and form a separate list from 'you' tremour types? or that 'you' old onset types go off and form a separate list from 'us' young onset types? or how about 'you' folks with constipation problems 'i' find the subject unpleasant to talk about and 'i' don't share 'your' symptoms so why don't 'you' go off and form a separate constipation list? 1900 of 'us' here means 50% or 950 of 'us' have cd and 80% of the 950 or 760 of 'us' have not had it diagnosed and are not receiving the medical care 'we' need to deal with it in other words [or numbers] 40% of 'us' are doubly disabled needlessly personally 'i' found the 'paralysis of will' that comes with cd profoundly more debilitating than anything pd has dealt 'me' so far in other other words [or numbers] 40% of 'our' group energy, synergy, spark, gumption, and drive is effectively inaccessible to the parkinson cause isn't freeing up all that pent up energy worth a little discomfort? heck, i'd even put up with the constipation discussions! janet janet paterson 53 now / 44 dx cd / 43 onset cd / 41 dx pd / 37 onset pd tel: 613 256 8340 url: "http://www.geocities.com/janet313/" email: [log in to unmask] smail: POBox 171 Almonte Ontario K0A 1A0 Canada