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At 12:57 2000/08/08 -0400, camilla wrote: >Dear Janet, >After reading all your have written re: CD and suicide, >I have one question: Is it your position that EVERYONE >who under ANY circumstances chooses suicide MUST be >"clinically depressed"? That is the impression I get >---- or as you would say, my "perception" :-) hi camilla according to what i have read recently cd is the direct cause of 'the majority' of suicides i have seen the 'caused by cd' percentage estimated as high as 98% [!] and as low as 75% or thereabouts but definite figures are hard to come by [hmm - remind you of anything?] i am starting to think it might be possible that the 'assisted' or 'voluntary' suicides are a 'public' aspect of this picture [and maybe associated with more 'tangible' terminal disease?] and that the 'slime-shame-cd-caused' suicides form the 'hidden' aspect or at least the 'not-talked-about' aspect. maybe we find it easier to empathize with the concept of suicide and someone dying of terminal inoperable painful cancer [e.g.] than to understand the [invisible] emotional pain of cd which is still stigmatized by 'loaded' concepts like 'mentally disturbed' and/or 'sin' janet ps it's not even the death of the individual that specifically bothers me it's the pain that i know that they have been through prior to that; i have felt and experienced one fraction of it and feel blessed that i can at least attempt to describe it for others janet paterson 53 now / 44 dx cd / 43 onset cd / 41 dx pd / 37 onset pd tel: 613 256 8340 url: "http://www.geocities.com/janet313/" email: "[log in to unmask]" smail: PO Box 171 Almonte Ontario K0A 1A0 Canada